(07-27-2023 09:57 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I think Yormark is approved for 4 Pro-Rata additions. Yormark has never speculated past 16-team Big 12.

I think it's possible that ESPN/FOX may have greenlighted 14...16 only if Washington and Oregon are included. The networks could be thinking, do you really need two Arizona teams and two Utah teams?

The Big 12 would certainly take ASU and Utah but I'm not sure if the networks would give their blessing and the Big 12 will do what FOX/ESPN want them to do.

(07-26-2023 10:21 PM)BeepBeepJeep Wrote:  

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(07-26-2023 09:54 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Isn't each school in the Big Ten going to make about twice as much as each school in the Big 12? If so, even coming into the Big Ten at half a share is a better deal.

But if the B1G gets no additional funds, that results in cuts to the existing members.

And I'm guessing either the Big Ten didn't ask for pro rata in their contracts or did and the media partners said no. I'd imagine media partners are not as willing to accept pro rata when the shares are $32 million a school vs. twice as much or more.

If the time comes when the discussion starts when the Big Ten and Washington/Oregon or any other pair comes up, the media partners will discuss how much more money the Big Ten should get and if Oregon/Washington isn't worth a pro rata share the media partners will say no and the Big Ten will then either say no to Oregon/Washington or offer less of a share. Big Ten members won't take a pay cut to add Oregon/Washington or anyone else.

There's no reason for the B1G or SEC to expand at this point unless there's more money for them. So a pro rata is pointless, because you aren't expanding to make the same amount of money and have less chance to win the conference /make the playoffs.

Bingo.

(07-27-2023 06:53 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(07-27-2023 06:41 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

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(07-27-2023 06:19 AM)esayem Wrote:  Wow, you must have a crystal ball or tarot cards!

The fact of the matter is distribution is getting easier and technology is advancing to do so at an alarming rate. Carolina might broker its own deal by 2036 and remain in the ACC.

The future favors the little guy. Look at how many people are banking six figures off of foot videos on only fans or reaction videos on YouTube. It doesn't take a genius at a university to see they can do the same and maximize their value.

Don't have to be a genius to read the tea leaves. UNC will not be in the ACC after 2036.

Will you still be posting here then? I’d like to revisit this conversation at a more relevant time, 12 years to be exact. Until then, I’ll watch the Heels hang ACC championship banners. Not sure we can say the same about your school’s future now that they’ll play a formidable schedule.

I love how offended you are at me predicting your school will move to a better conference lmao

However, since you're in the mood to talk smack, UNC's last ACC football championship was from 1980. UH's last major conference championship was from 1984. So good luck with the whole "hanging banners" thing lol

I’m not offended, I just think your prediction won’t come true because it is at odds against mine. It’s not personal.

The Heels have played in two ACC title games the last 10 years so I’m not worried about that.

Well I'll be around so if it doesn't you can laugh at me then. Hope the reverse will be true as well. lol

(07-26-2023 10:46 PM)Huan Wrote:  Rumor has b12 capped at 16

No prorata for B1G is huge if true. Why wasn’t this discussed this past year?

B1G is already at 16.

If Big 12 is capped at 16 as well, and making half of what the B1G is, not sure that is the flex you all are thinking it is.

(07-26-2023 10:46 PM)Huan Wrote:  Rumor has b12 capped at 16

No prorata for B1G is huge if true. Why wasn’t this discussed this past year?

It was discussed and argued. The OTA networks are mostly paying for games, not for geography. Adding Washington or Oregon or whoever doesn't create more good Saturday timeslots. Further expansion to 20 would have to be financed by Amazon paying $300M for a Friday night primetime game or ESPN paying $300M for a Big Ten "After Dark" game, and neither option seemed likely for various reasons.

Adding Oregon and Washignton -- or anyone short of Notre Dame -- to the menu of Big Ten games doesn't move the needle very much.

It's pretty clear to me that the PAC deal, whatever it is/was, was so bad that it forced CU's hand. It was pretty clear when they hired Prime that they needed money to pay him and make further investments and taking a cut from new PAC deal would make that impossible.

GK has been playing tiddly winks while BY has been playing chess. I said on Sun Belt board after SDSU deal blew up that it was clear that the money was not there from the new deal and I expected the PAC to implode within 18 months at the latest. It is happening much faster than even I thought.