(07-19-2023 10:03 PM)banker Wrote:  Trump didn’t have to incite anybody. All the necessary incitement was in already in place because the veil was pulled back for 4 years. It wasnt just the Russiagate being proven false, it wasn’t just the partisan Ukraine phone call impeachment, it was t just the fact that it was proven the FBI spied on the Trump campaign, and it wasn’t just the sudden stop of vote counting, almost simultaneously, in GA, PA, and Michigan. It was a combination of all those things over a 4-5 year period.

The DNC, FBI and others convinced 75,000,000 people that their Republic was being stolen, their votes nullified, and their right to self determination destroyed. They incited, inspired, and directly caused the protest of January 6. More importantly, that was their plan and their goal, which is why they did nothing to stop it, not with upgrading security, standing down the national guard, and having the hundreds of LEOs mixed in the crowd do nothing.

Democrats lash out when told to, like the good sheep they are. Conservatives are far more independent. They lash out only when backed into a corner. The Swamp backed them into a corner.

Conservatives were lied to about the election and that caused them to be angry.

(07-20-2023 06:47 AM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  Conservatives were lied to about the election and that caused them to be angry.

This is a cute story you guys tell, but let's look at it from a different perspective.

1) Liberals were lied to about the 2016 election (Russia-gate)... why aren't THEY angry? This was quite literally an attempt to unseat and then undermine an equally 'legally' elected President.... and you guys went about this for 5 years... not 5 days.

That is a 'whatabout' but by intention. You act as if protesting is not what angry people do.... and sometimes some people at those protests get out of hand. I think the reaction by these same government to the 'summer of protests' was a hugely contributing factor not only to the anger, but to the expectation that 'what they were doing' would not have been met with this reaction. In fact, one might think that lawmakers would openly raise bail money for these people as they did during the summer.

2) We have tens of thousands of hours of very clear video and dozens of witnesses to the actions of 1/6, and yet here we are 2 1/2 years later and new charges are being filed... and the 'investigation' into Trump is still ongoing. There is almost no clear video evidence of the alleged vote tampering and the entire process from 'the acts' to 'the outcome of legal challenges' was a matter of weeks. To think that we could really KNOW that there was a thorough investigation and that 'justice has been served' is in my mind, crazy. The best we can say is that 'they couldn't prove their case in the short period they had to do so'.

As an aside... there is a difference between something that is 'not illegal' and something that is 'as it should be' or 'as was intended by the law'. These technicalities should be subject to review and determination by objective third parties, and not by the people who may ultimately be directly benefitting from the technicality. It is possible that these laws did not imagine that the state would be (because of a pandemic) complicit in voter fraud (just using a general term for anything that allows people who wouldn't otherwise be able to vote to do so) but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be upset if they believe there is evidence that they were.... or that they shouldn't seek redress from that in every possible venue.

Said simply...

They had a reason to be mad... and 'your side' (demonstrably) would have been just as mad.

(07-20-2023 06:47 AM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  

(07-19-2023 10:03 PM)banker Wrote:  Trump didn’t have to incite anybody. All the necessary incitement was in already in place because the veil was pulled back for 4 years. It wasnt just the Russiagate being proven false, it wasn’t just the partisan Ukraine phone call impeachment, it was t just the fact that it was proven the FBI spied on the Trump campaign, and it wasn’t just the sudden stop of vote counting, almost simultaneously, in GA, PA, and Michigan. It was a combination of all those things over a 4-5 year period.

The DNC, FBI and others convinced 75,000,000 people that their Republic was being stolen, their votes nullified, and their right to self determination destroyed. They incited, inspired, and directly caused the protest of January 6. More importantly, that was their plan and their goal, which is why they did nothing to stop it, not with upgrading security, standing down the national guard, and having the hundreds of LEOs mixed in the crowd do nothing.

Democrats lash out when told to, like the good sheep they are. Conservatives are far more independent. They lash out only when backed into a corner. The Swamp backed them into a corner.

Conservatives were lied to about the election and that caused them to be angry.

The entire country is being lied to by liberals every moment of everyday and hopefully it makes us angry enough to overcome lying-cheating liberals at the voting booths.