I know the new marketing campaign is "Power Forward", and with that in mind, does your program have a Power Forward scheduling philosophy for football?

It appears UNT is modifying their scheduling going forward. UNT's OOC schedules had been....

P5 (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (away)
FCS (home)

But, beginning around 2027/28, UNT seems to be adjusting this philosophy to....

P5/Army (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (home)

Maybe it is too far out to be certain, but as of now UNT has no G5 away game scheduled after 2026, and no FCS programs scheduled after 2026. Our only OOC road games are part of home and home series with Baylor, Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado, & Army.

Have any of you analyzed your future OOC schedules? Do you have any observations to make? I'm interested to know if this is part of an overarching AAC philosophy.

UTSA will have this going on for the next 6-8 years:

• SEC opponent (away)
• Texas State (home/away)
• FCS opponent (home)
• Filler G5 (home/away, alternates with Texas State games)
  

Exception to this will be the upcoming 2023 season with no FCS opponents. (@ Houston, vs Army)

I personally like it. Get paid by an SEC team to make ‘em sweat out a win. Keep the consistent home and home scheduled with our main rival from the Sun Belt. Get one home game against an FCS to work things out with the team while getting a likely win. Past 2024 our FCS opponents haven’t been scheduled yet, since they alternate a bunch of teams from Texas.

The fourth game, a home and home with a G5, is probably the only thing worth a small gripe. Wish we had a few different teams but it’s not the end of the world. Scheduled opponents (in no particular order) are:

• Army
• New Mexico State
• UNLV
• Air Force
  

Not sure what we’ll be doing by 2030 when Jeff Traylor is coaching for Texas or A&M by then

clt says we have the normal road game vs sec or big10, but have added home and homes with Duke, UNC CHeat, NC State, Maryland, Ole Miss.

“Do, or Do Not. There is no ‘Try’”

USF on most years has been

P5 home/away
G5 home/away
FCS home
Either P5 2-1 or G5 home/away

Next 7 years
7 FCS at home
5 P teams at home 6 away
4 G teams at home 6 away

(07-08-2023 02:23 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I know the new marketing campaign is "Power Forward", and with that in mind, does your program have a Power Forward scheduling philosophy for football?

It appears UNT is modifying their scheduling going forward. UNT's OOC schedules had been....

P5 (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (away)
FCS (home)

But, beginning around 2027/28, UNT seems to be adjusting this philosophy to....

P5/Army (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (home)

Maybe it is too far out to be certain, but as of now UNT has no G5 away game scheduled after 2026, and no FCS programs scheduled after 2026. Our only OOC road games are part of home and home series with Baylor, Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado, & Army.

Have any of you analyzed your future OOC schedules? Do you have any observations to make? I'm interested to know if this is part of an overarching AAC philosophy.

That would require UNT to buy G5 games which they are in no position to do. P5 teams buy G5 games because it makes financial sense as they can make more from the gate of one of those games than they pay the G5 school. The going rate for a typical G5 one off game is more than UNT makes annually across all sports in ticket sales.

UABs previous philosophy under Clark and our AD has been:

1 throw away P5 game that doesn't matter because it doesn't count towards conference championship
1 FCS, usually an in-state HBCU or PWI
2 FBS G5 games (home/away)

I think most UAB fans are hoping the AD and Dilfer will try to get a P5 home game every now and then sine ww are powering forward. I would think paying them to play us at home comes into play.

ECU is pretty much

P5 Home/Away
G5 Home/Away
G5 Home/Away
FCS Home

An occasional P5 buy game like every 4-5 years or so. No P5 in 2024. Schedule is filled out until 2029 where it will be tougher if not impossible to get P5 H/H with the current narratives and agendas.

Two P5s in 2025 and 2028. One Home and One Away.

(07-09-2023 09:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 02:23 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I know the new marketing campaign is "Power Forward", and with that in mind, does your program have a Power Forward scheduling philosophy for football?

It appears UNT is modifying their scheduling going forward. UNT's OOC schedules had been....

P5 (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (away)
FCS (home)

But, beginning around 2027/28, UNT seems to be adjusting this philosophy to....

P5/Army (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (home)

Maybe it is too far out to be certain, but as of now UNT has no G5 away game scheduled after 2026, and no FCS programs scheduled after 2026. Our only OOC road games are part of home and home series with Baylor, Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado, & Army.

Have any of you analyzed your future OOC schedules? Do you have any observations to make? I'm interested to know if this is part of an overarching AAC philosophy.

That would require UNT to buy G5 games which they are in no position to do. P5 teams buy G5 games because it makes financial sense as they can make more from the gate of one of those games than they pay the G5 school. The going rate for a typical G5 one off game is more than UNT makes annually across all sports in ticket sales.

And yet despite your opinion, UNT is making it happen. You clearly have no idea what UNT is in a position to do. After 2026, UNT has no FCS programs scheduled that would hurt our strength of schedule. UNT eliminated our road game at Wisconsin in 2025, because it was not a home & home series. And, there are no road games at any G5 programs after 2026. Here are our current OOC schedules beginning in 2027. #AmericanPower!

2027
09/11 - Texas Tech
09/18 - Wyoming

2028
09/02 - at Baylor
09/09 - Louisiana Tech
09/16 - Army

2029
09/01 - Baylor
09/15 - FIU
09/29 - at Army

2030
08/31 - Texas State
09/14 - Missouri

2031
09/13 - at Missouri

2032
09/04 - at Colorado

2033
09/03 - Colorado

By this list of OOC games, UNT will be playing 7 homes games every season beginning in 2027 or 2028.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-texas/

1 low to low-mid level P5 EARLY so if you lose you can recover
2 G5 games you should be able to win
1 FCS dog **** team as a scrimmage that counts

8 conference games that are what they are.

The problem with having 14 effing teams is that there are 5 conference teams you won't play an any given year. 12 / 3 is bad enough.

Division just suck. Divisionless w/ 1v2 in CCG is better but even that is fatally flawed due to unbalanced scheduling. If you can't play every team in your conference then the next best thing would be to let the two 'highest ranked' teams play each other in the CCG but wow what a subjective can of bs THAT would open up.....

10 member conference with a 9 game conference slate for fb and 18 for bb is as close to perfectly fair as you can get to determine your champion.

So it's interesting that I can edit posts but not make any new ones.....

For Memphis based upon finances & fan interest, we need

2 SEC games (1 home & away each season)
1 high/mid- level G5 game with an opponent that travels well (hopefully that can be contracted as 2H-1 away) like USM that is our oldest rival
8 conference games
1 lower level G5 or FCS @ home
*in years where the 7 home games, schedule a buy game playing at Alabama, UGA or other top ten program for $1M+

We need the 2 SEC games (or equivalent B12) to sell tickets & generate fan interest.

Note: I took your question literally - this is/would be my philosophy.

Our AD/coach seem to be attempting to dumb down our schedule as best they can to increase wins.

(07-09-2023 01:08 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-09-2023 09:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 02:23 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I know the new marketing campaign is "Power Forward", and with that in mind, does your program have a Power Forward scheduling philosophy for football?

It appears UNT is modifying their scheduling going forward. UNT's OOC schedules had been....

P5 (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (away)
FCS (home)

But, beginning around 2027/28, UNT seems to be adjusting this philosophy to....

P5/Army (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (home)

Maybe it is too far out to be certain, but as of now UNT has no G5 away game scheduled after 2026, and no FCS programs scheduled after 2026. Our only OOC road games are part of home and home series with Baylor, Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado, & Army.

Have any of you analyzed your future OOC schedules? Do you have any observations to make? I'm interested to know if this is part of an overarching AAC philosophy.

That would require UNT to buy G5 games which they are in no position to do. P5 teams buy G5 games because it makes financial sense as they can make more from the gate of one of those games than they pay the G5 school. The going rate for a typical G5 one off game is more than UNT makes annually across all sports in ticket sales.

And yet despite your opinion, UNT is making it happen. You clearly have no idea what UNT is in a position to do. After 2026, UNT has no FCS programs scheduled that would hurt our strength of schedule. UNT eliminated our road game at Wisconsin in 2025, because it was not a home & home series. And, there are no road games at any G5 programs after 2026. Here are our current OOC schedules beginning in 2027. #AmericanPower!

2027
09/11 - Texas Tech
09/18 - Wyoming

2028
09/02 - at Baylor
09/09 - Louisiana Tech
09/16 - Army

2029
09/01 - Baylor
09/15 - FIU
09/29 - at Army

2030
08/31 - Texas State
09/14 - Missouri

2031
09/13 - at Missouri

2032
09/04 - at Colorado

2033
09/03 - Colorado

By this list of OOC games, UNT will be playing 7 homes games every season beginning in 2027 or 2028.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-texas/

Just curious, are all those home G5 games buy games since there is no return? How much are you paying them?

(07-09-2023 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  

(07-09-2023 01:08 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-09-2023 09:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 02:23 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I know the new marketing campaign is "Power Forward", and with that in mind, does your program have a Power Forward scheduling philosophy for football?

It appears UNT is modifying their scheduling going forward. UNT's OOC schedules had been....

P5 (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (away)
FCS (home)

But, beginning around 2027/28, UNT seems to be adjusting this philosophy to....

P5/Army (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (home)

Maybe it is too far out to be certain, but as of now UNT has no G5 away game scheduled after 2026, and no FCS programs scheduled after 2026. Our only OOC road games are part of home and home series with Baylor, Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado, & Army.

Have any of you analyzed your future OOC schedules? Do you have any observations to make? I'm interested to know if this is part of an overarching AAC philosophy.

That would require UNT to buy G5 games which they are in no position to do. P5 teams buy G5 games because it makes financial sense as they can make more from the gate of one of those games than they pay the G5 school. The going rate for a typical G5 one off game is more than UNT makes annually across all sports in ticket sales.

And yet despite your opinion, UNT is making it happen. You clearly have no idea what UNT is in a position to do. After 2026, UNT has no FCS programs scheduled that would hurt our strength of schedule. UNT eliminated our road game at Wisconsin in 2025, because it was not a home & home series. And, there are no road games at any G5 programs after 2026. Here are our current OOC schedules beginning in 2027. #AmericanPower!

2027
09/11 - Texas Tech
09/18 - Wyoming

2028
09/02 - at Baylor
09/09 - Louisiana Tech
09/16 - Army

2029
09/01 - Baylor
09/15 - FIU
09/29 - at Army

2030
08/31 - Texas State
09/14 - Missouri

2031
09/13 - at Missouri

2032
09/04 - at Colorado

2033
09/03 - Colorado

By this list of OOC games, UNT will be playing 7 homes games every season beginning in 2027 or 2028.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-texas/

Just curious, are all those home G5 games buy games since there is no return? How much are you paying them?

Not buying G5 games. We have just played at their stadiums already or will before the 2027 season. The only reason UNT can pull this off is because we have eliminated P5 money games, and only schedule P5's for home and home series now.

FCS games are typically scheduled a year in advance, 2 at the most. I don’t think 2026 schedules are any indication that UNT won’t be playing FCS teams. Equally I suspect they will sign G5 H&Hs to fill out 2030 and beyond.

From September to season's end, I schedule everything around UTSA Football.

(07-09-2023 01:08 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-09-2023 09:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 02:23 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I know the new marketing campaign is "Power Forward", and with that in mind, does your program have a Power Forward scheduling philosophy for football?

It appears UNT is modifying their scheduling going forward. UNT's OOC schedules had been....

P5 (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (away)
FCS (home)

But, beginning around 2027/28, UNT seems to be adjusting this philosophy to....

P5/Army (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (home)

Maybe it is too far out to be certain, but as of now UNT has no G5 away game scheduled after 2026, and no FCS programs scheduled after 2026. Our only OOC road games are part of home and home series with Baylor, Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado, & Army.

Have any of you analyzed your future OOC schedules? Do you have any observations to make? I'm interested to know if this is part of an overarching AAC philosophy.

That would require UNT to buy G5 games which they are in no position to do. P5 teams buy G5 games because it makes financial sense as they can make more from the gate of one of those games than they pay the G5 school. The going rate for a typical G5 one off game is more than UNT makes annually across all sports in ticket sales.

And yet despite your opinion, UNT is making it happen. You clearly have no idea what UNT is in a position to do. After 2026, UNT has no FCS programs scheduled that would hurt our strength of schedule. UNT eliminated our road game at Wisconsin in 2025, because it was not a home & home series. And, there are no road games at any G5 programs after 2026. Here are our current OOC schedules beginning in 2027. #AmericanPower!

2027
09/11 - Texas Tech
09/18 - Wyoming

2028
09/02 - at Baylor
09/09 - Louisiana Tech
09/16 - Army

2029
09/01 - Baylor
09/15 - FIU
09/29 - at Army

2030
08/31 - Texas State
09/14 - Missouri

2031
09/13 - at Missouri

2032
09/04 - at Colorado

2033
09/03 - Colorado

By this list of OOC games, UNT will be playing 7 homes games every season beginning in 2027 or 2028.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-texas/

So you think that UNT will play 7 home games and only play P5 games on the road in the future?? There’s a handful of schools that do that and they’re in the SEC or B10 and they still schedule FCS home games. That’s crazy talk. Come back when those future schedules are filled out. It’s great UNT is getting H&H with P5’s but you’ll definitely play on the road at other G5 schools and probably play home FCS schools as well, maybe you’ll have a season with 7 home games but it won’t be the norm. You’ve left reality behind on this one Joe.

Here’s ODU’s future schedule FWIW:

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/old-dominion/

(07-09-2023 04:23 PM)otown Wrote:  

(07-09-2023 01:08 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(07-09-2023 09:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 02:23 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  I know the new marketing campaign is "Power Forward", and with that in mind, does your program have a Power Forward scheduling philosophy for football?

It appears UNT is modifying their scheduling going forward. UNT's OOC schedules had been....

P5 (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (away)
FCS (home)

But, beginning around 2027/28, UNT seems to be adjusting this philosophy to....

P5/Army (home/away)
G5 (home)
G5 (home)

Maybe it is too far out to be certain, but as of now UNT has no G5 away game scheduled after 2026, and no FCS programs scheduled after 2026. Our only OOC road games are part of home and home series with Baylor, Texas Tech, Missouri, Colorado, & Army.

Have any of you analyzed your future OOC schedules? Do you have any observations to make? I'm interested to know if this is part of an overarching AAC philosophy.

That would require UNT to buy G5 games which they are in no position to do. P5 teams buy G5 games because it makes financial sense as they can make more from the gate of one of those games than they pay the G5 school. The going rate for a typical G5 one off game is more than UNT makes annually across all sports in ticket sales.

And yet despite your opinion, UNT is making it happen. You clearly have no idea what UNT is in a position to do. After 2026, UNT has no FCS programs scheduled that would hurt our strength of schedule. UNT eliminated our road game at Wisconsin in 2025, because it was not a home & home series. And, there are no road games at any G5 programs after 2026. Here are our current OOC schedules beginning in 2027. #AmericanPower!

2027
09/11 - Texas Tech
09/18 - Wyoming

2028
09/02 - at Baylor
09/09 - Louisiana Tech
09/16 - Army

2029
09/01 - Baylor
09/15 - FIU
09/29 - at Army

2030
08/31 - Texas State
09/14 - Missouri

2031
09/13 - at Missouri

2032
09/04 - at Colorado

2033
09/03 - Colorado

By this list of OOC games, UNT will be playing 7 homes games every season beginning in 2027 or 2028.

https://fbschedules.com/ncaa/north-texas/

Just curious, are all those home G5 games buy games since there is no return? How much are you paying them?

Above starts with 2027. They are playing at FUI and La Tech this year, and at Wyoming and Texas State in 2026. I think the "UNT is moving to only playing G5 home games" assumption is just a matter of timing of when you look at their schedule. It's more likely that they tend to book the away trips first in G5 series, and that the open games in 2025, 2027, 2030, etc, will be G5 aways in new/renewed series.

Also, I think someone already said this, but FCS games aren't scheduled as far in advance. I don't think they are getting away from scheduling them, they just don't have any way out. 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026 all have their FCS games already (except maybe that S.F. Austin might be one of the random teams that is joining CUSA...so maybe that year will be an exception?).

As soon as you get good, teams from the P5 don't want to play you. Mizzou canceled on us and now we have to play on a neutral field. They hold the cards and we don't. Pretty simple. I wouldn't play us either. When you're in a situation where you have everything to lose and nothing to gain, that's not a good situation for a P5.

Sec teams have a murderous schedule. Why play a G5 that could beat you and maybe wreck your season? We beat Ole Miss two years in a row. It will be at least a decade before they play us again. We're 60 miles apart and the place will be packed in either stadium. Even a rivalry game can't get past that. Nobody is going to give them any credit for beating us.

College football is all about appearances.

(07-09-2023 05:49 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  FCS games are typically scheduled a year in advance, 2 at the most. I don’t think 2026 schedules are any indication that UNT won’t be playing FCS teams. Equally I suspect they will sign G5 H&Hs to fill out 2030 and beyond.

If the AAC is still playing an 8 game conference schedule then yeah, UNT will be filling out those openings with FCS home games. And, I'm sure UNT will sign some home & home series with G5's down the road. I just think it's incredible that we are going to have a nice streak of 7 game seasons for a while, with no OOC trips to G5 stadiums.

(07-09-2023 11:26 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  ECU is pretty much

P5 Home/Away
G5 Home/Away
G5 Home/Away
FCS Home

An occasional P5 buy game like every 4-5 years or so. No P5 in 2024. Schedule is filled out until 2029 where it will be tougher if not impossible to get P5 H/H with the current narratives and agendas.

Two P5s in 2025 and 2028. One Home and One Away.

While it sounds like our local ACC opponents have been told by their commissioner not to schedule series with us anymore, I'm pretty happy with our schedules over the next couple of years.

2023: Michigan, Marshall, App State, Gardner-Webb
2024: Norfolk State, ODU, App State, Liberty(this one is kind of a stinker, but everything is drivable
2025: NC State, Marshall, BYU, (probably FCS)
2026: App State, Boise, West Virginia (probably FCS)
2027: SC, Wake, ODU, Ga State
2028: NC State, Boise, Wake, (probably FCS)
2029: ODU, Liberty, (probably P5), (probably FCS)
2030/2031: Just ODU so far

The two in bold are the teets. Love getting at least one local P5, a bigger western brand like Boise/BYU, and a respectable regional G5 like Marshall