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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

Better than the Big 12 competitively? Hahaha
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 01:13 PM)otown Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:54 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:47 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  By golly, that conference will bring the B1G to it's knees.

You're missing the point too. Not really news though. It's about trying to force the B12 and the Pac12 to make a move. What's the B10 have to do with it.

Why would this force them to make a move? This makes no sense. Please explain.

I don't think it would. Both conferences could pluck anyone they want whenever they want. It's about who's pluckable. That's the conversation.

Should Memphis,SMU, ECU, Tulane, USF etc. be happy going in reverse? Would anyone?

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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.
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The problem is that some of you UAB and other newcomers don’t understand. As undesirable as Memphis has apparently consistently proven to be to the P5 haves. Y’all are even less desirable. The real knee jerk reaction was the AAC adding each of the new comers. It will prove to be the ultimate death of what was a league with so much potential. The American could have stayed put even with the 3 defections and still been the best G5.

It is what it is. This idea is fantasy and I know that. Memphis will always suffer from inept university and city leadership,
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.

A couple? Memphis was the first team to be in 3 consecutive championships in AAC history. They have two championships. What the F has ECU ever done? Baseball?

They have the most wins in the AAC over a nine year period in the AAC. Who's delusional?
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 03:42 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.

A couple? Memphis was the first team to be in 3 consecutive championships in AAC history. They have two championships. What the F has ECU ever done? Baseball?

They have the most wins in the AAC over a nine year period in the AAC. Who's delusional?

#facts baby
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 03:44 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:42 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.

A couple? Memphis was the first team to be in 3 consecutive championships in AAC history. They have two championships. What the F has ECU ever done? Baseball?

They have the most wins in the AAC over a nine year period in the AAC. Who's delusional?

#facts baby

I just gave you facts baby.

Memphis can't match Ames Iowa? Manhattan Kansas? Waco frikken Texas? Stillwater Oklahoma? Memphis fatalists.

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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 03:33 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  The problem is that some of you UAB and other newcomers don’t understand. As undesirable as Memphis has apparently consistently proven to be to the P5 haves. Y’all are even less desirable. The real knee jerk reaction was the AAC adding each of the new comers. It will prove to be the ultimate death of what was a league with so much potential. The American could have stayed put even with the 3 defections and still been the best G5.

It is what it is. This idea is fantasy and I know that. Memphis will always suffer from inept university and city leadership,

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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 03:33 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  The problem is that some of you UAB and other newcomers don’t understand. As undesirable as Memphis has apparently consistently proven to be to the P5 haves. Y’all are even less desirable. The real knee jerk reaction was the AAC adding each of the new comers. It will prove to be the ultimate death of what was a league with so much potential. The American could have stayed put even with the 3 defections and still been the best G5.

It is what it is. This idea is fantasy and I know that. Memphis will always suffer from inept university and city leadership,

Because the AAC was so desirable that Colorado St, AFA, and Boise couldn't wait to join Memphis, USF, and the other teams.

Hey I get it, you're the USM and Marshall of the AAC. The difference is those two at least got to leave CUSA on their terms.
And to clarify, most new member fans aren't hating on UM or USF proper, just returning the same energy that some of their broken hearted fans are pushing out.
Not out of the AAC of course.


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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 11:43 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:50 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:19 AM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 08:01 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Could you get behind this conference? I don’t know all the intricacies of how the Olympic sports would play into this. But I do know I’ve seen SEC schools Olympic sports in lower tier leagues like the Sun Belt and CUSA. Not sure I’d relish having the military basketball teams. So backfill them with the Zags, Saint Mary’s, VCU, St. Louis and the shockers. This league would be a hell of a Conference in my opinion with a lot of upside. The games would be fun. It would be a merger of sorts of the best schools that are left from the MWC and AAC. You accomplish the coast to coast in every time zone that the Big12 wants. You also snatch up some teams that both leagues would want. In any given year this conference would be as good or better than the PAC 12 or Big 12

Sit still as a league and wait for other schools to demonstrate long term success and commitment. No knee jerk additions like the ones that are coming into the AAC now.

Football Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
USF
SMU
Tulane
Navy
Army

Western Division
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

Basketball Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
Wichita State
SMU
South Florida
Tulane
St. Louis
VCU


Western Division

Gonzaga
Saint Mary’s
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

So where's UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT?
Ooooh, they were left out of this mock league like Memphis was left out the Big 12.

You're missing the whole premise of his point. He's picking teams that have been mentioned/rumored for expansion to the PAC and the B12 to force those conference's hand.

Has UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT been mentioned for those two conferences since 2016?

I would have added ECU in there, but when you've got that many teams listed it's easy to miss a team or two.

East Carolina if Army won’t come on board?

Ok, I'm open to anything.
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 03:42 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.

A couple? Memphis was the first team to be in 3 consecutive championships in AAC history. They have two championships. What the F has ECU ever done? Baseball?

They have the most wins in the AAC over a nine year period in the AAC. Who's delusional?

Whooped Memphis’s ass for years.
https://www.winsipedia.com/games/east-ca...vs/memphis

I really wonder how long some of you have followed Memphis. Memphis made two good hires with Fuente and Norvell and now they appear to be regressing to the mean of their program stature and what they put into it. And some of you want to fire the guy that has Memphis performing well above its historical performances.
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(07-04-2023 11:40 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:50 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:19 AM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 08:01 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Could you get behind this conference? I don’t know all the intricacies of how the Olympic sports would play into this. But I do know I’ve seen SEC schools Olympic sports in lower tier leagues like the Sun Belt and CUSA. Not sure I’d relish having the military basketball teams. So backfill them with the Zags, Saint Mary’s, VCU, St. Louis and the shockers. This league would be a hell of a Conference in my opinion with a lot of upside. The games would be fun. It would be a merger of sorts of the best schools that are left from the MWC and AAC. You accomplish the coast to coast in every time zone that the Big12 wants. You also snatch up some teams that both leagues would want. In any given year this conference would be as good or better than the PAC 12 or Big 12

Sit still as a league and wait for other schools to demonstrate long term success and commitment. No knee jerk additions like the ones that are coming into the AAC now.

Football Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
USF
SMU
Tulane
Navy
Army

Western Division
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

Basketball Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
Wichita State
SMU
South Florida
Tulane
St. Louis
VCU


Western Division

Gonzaga
Saint Mary’s
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

So where's UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT?
Ooooh, they were left out of this mock league like Memphis was left out the Big 12.

You're missing the whole premise of his point. He's picking teams that have been mentioned/rumored for expansion to the PAC and the B12 to force those conference's hand.

Has UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT been mentioned for those two conferences since 2016?

I would have added ECU in there, but when you've got that many teams listed it's easy to miss a team or two.

clt says Charlotte was mentioned for the SEC a few years ago, but not the pac or big

How do you guys get dressed in the morning? The Pac and the Big 12 are rumored to be adding teams. that's what the OP of this thread is about.

Memphis could have been in the SEC in the 60's. Either they turned it down or whatever, I don't know. I'll let the Memphis historians chime in if they want to. I didn't grow up there. Point is, I'm sure all of us have had opportunities.

This thread is about what's going on now and how to push this round of expansion forward.

Join the best of the Mountain West with the best of the AAC into a conference. Joining us into one group doesn't matter as far as accomplishing that imo. Both the Pac and the B12 can poach whoever they want from the G5 whenever they want. It would however be a better situation for the best of both conferences to build a new conference, as well as add some additional teams.

Can we not have that conversation?

What do we know at this time? Yormark has stated the B12 wants to add 4 teams. Logical thinking is he wants the 4 corner states. Does he get all 4? Does he get two? three? none?

There's a chess game going on. My personal opinion is the Pac stays in tact and adds SDSU and SMU. The big 12 adds two G5's. Yormark would need to save face. He can't walk away empty. Not on his first try. It would make him look weak.

He recently walked back expanding by 4 teams saying he'd be happy at 14 teams total for now. That means he'd add two. Does he already know the Pac is staying together?

I think if he adds two it will be Memphis and UConn. Memphis has been knocking on the door and UConn just won their fifth ncaa championship. Yormark has stated he wants to be the best basketball confernce. UConn and Memphis are both branded basketball schools. Ironically they're 8-8 all time against each other.

Yormark visited two schools the past month or so. Memphis and UConn. That wasn't by accident. I don't think he wants either. I think the B12 is having trouble imagining themeselves with Memphis. UConn has a terrible football program. I think Yormark believes those two teams in the end though are the best choice right now.

Fire away.
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(07-04-2023 08:10 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
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(07-04-2023 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.

A couple? Memphis was the first team to be in 3 consecutive championships in AAC history. They have two championships. What the F has ECU ever done? Baseball?

They have the most wins in the AAC over a nine year period in the AAC. Who's delusional?

Whooped Memphis’s ass for years.
https://www.winsipedia.com/games/east-ca...vs/memphis

I really wonder how long some of you have followed Memphis. Memphis made two good hires with Fuente and Norvell and now they appear to be regressing to the mean of their program stature and what they put into it. And some of you want to fire the guy that has Memphis performing well above its historical performances.

Who hasn't whipped their ass for years?
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 09:50 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:19 AM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 08:01 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Could you get behind this conference? I don’t know all the intricacies of how the Olympic sports would play into this. But I do know I’ve seen SEC schools Olympic sports in lower tier leagues like the Sun Belt and CUSA. Not sure I’d relish having the military basketball teams. So backfill them with the Zags, Saint Mary’s, VCU, St. Louis and the shockers. This league would be a hell of a Conference in my opinion with a lot of upside. The games would be fun. It would be a merger of sorts of the best schools that are left from the MWC and AAC. You accomplish the coast to coast in every time zone that the Big12 wants. You also snatch up some teams that both leagues would want. In any given year this conference would be as good or better than the PAC 12 or Big 12

Sit still as a league and wait for other schools to demonstrate long term success and commitment. No knee jerk additions like the ones that are coming into the AAC now.

Football Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
USF
SMU
Tulane
Navy
Army

Western Division
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

Basketball Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
Wichita State
SMU
South Florida
Tulane
St. Louis
VCU


Western Division

Gonzaga
Saint Mary’s
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

So where's UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT?
Ooooh, they were left out of this mock league like Memphis was left out the Big 12.

You're missing the whole premise of his point. He's picking teams that have been mentioned/rumored for expansion to the PAC and the B12 to force those conference's hand.

Has UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT been mentioned for those two conferences since 2016?

I would have added ECU in there, but when you've got that many teams listed it's easy to miss a team or two.

UTSA
https://duckswire.usatoday.com/lists/eig...to-expand/

Rice
https://www.si.com/college/stanford/foot...the-pac-12
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 08:21 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 11:40 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:50 AM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 09:19 AM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 08:01 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Could you get behind this conference? I don’t know all the intricacies of how the Olympic sports would play into this. But I do know I’ve seen SEC schools Olympic sports in lower tier leagues like the Sun Belt and CUSA. Not sure I’d relish having the military basketball teams. So backfill them with the Zags, Saint Mary’s, VCU, St. Louis and the shockers. This league would be a hell of a Conference in my opinion with a lot of upside. The games would be fun. It would be a merger of sorts of the best schools that are left from the MWC and AAC. You accomplish the coast to coast in every time zone that the Big12 wants. You also snatch up some teams that both leagues would want. In any given year this conference would be as good or better than the PAC 12 or Big 12

Sit still as a league and wait for other schools to demonstrate long term success and commitment. No knee jerk additions like the ones that are coming into the AAC now.

Football Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
USF
SMU
Tulane
Navy
Army

Western Division
Air Force
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

Basketball Side

Eastern Division
Memphis
Wichita State
SMU
South Florida
Tulane
St. Louis
VCU


Western Division

Gonzaga
Saint Mary’s
Boise State
Colorado State
UNLV
San Diego State
Utah State

So where's UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT?
Ooooh, they were left out of this mock league like Memphis was left out the Big 12.

You're missing the whole premise of his point. He's picking teams that have been mentioned/rumored for expansion to the PAC and the B12 to force those conference's hand.

Has UTSA, UAB, FAU, UNT, Rice, and CLT been mentioned for those two conferences since 2016?

I would have added ECU in there, but when you've got that many teams listed it's easy to miss a team or two.

clt says Charlotte was mentioned for the SEC a few years ago, but not the pac or big

How do you guys get dressed in the morning? The Pac and the Big 12 are rumored to be adding teams. that's what the OP of this thread is about.

Memphis could have been in the SEC in the 60's. Either they turned it down or whatever, I don't know. I'll let the Memphis historians chime in if they want to. I didn't grow up there. Point is, I'm sure all of us have had opportunities.

This thread is about what's going on now and how to push this round of expansion forward.

Join the best of the Mountain West with the best of the AAC into a conference. Joining us into one group doesn't matter as far as accomplishing that imo. Both the Pac and the B12 can poach whoever they want from the G5. It would however be a better situation for the best of both conferences to build a new conference, as well as add some additional teams.

Can we not have that conversation?

What do we know at this time? Yormark has stated the B12 wants to add 4 teams. Logical thinking is he wants the 4 corner states. Does he get all 4? Does he get two? three? none?

There's a chess game going on. My personal opinion is the Pac stays in tact and adds SDSU and SMU. The big 12 adds two G5's. Yormark would need to save face. He can't walk away empty. Not on his first try. It would make him look weak.

He recently walked back expanding by 4 teams saying he'd be happy at 14 teams total for now. That means he'd add two. Does he already know the Pac is staying together?

I think if he adds two it will be Memphis and UConn. Memphis has been knocking on the door and UConn just won their fifth ncaa championship. Yormark has stated he wants to be the best basketball confernce. UConn and Memphis are both branded basketball schools. Ironically they're 8-8 all time against each other.

Yormark visited two schools the past month or so. Memphis and UConn. That wasn't by accident. I don't think he wants either. I think the B12 is having trouble imagining themeselves with Memphis. UConn has a terrible football program. I think Yormark believes those two teams in the end though are the best choice right now.

Fire away.
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If Yormark chooses either Memphis or UConn or both over anyone from the PAC 12 he will be run out of town on the proverbial rail.
If the PAC 12 sticks together then I could see those 2 suggested. Would be the only way Yormark gets off the hook choosing non PAC 12 teams.
It is the 1 thru 10 from the remaining PAC 12 for the Big 12. After that 10th team from the PAC says no then they'll go after those 2.
The UCLA/USC move makes the Memphis' and Boise's etc, take a major back seat in all of this. And that is taking that big backseat after they were probably right in the forefront for the next Big 12 expansion.
Personally I'd love to see UConn jump up but am afraid that's whistling in the wind. Good luck to Memphis too but there are too many teams to leap over.
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 08:30 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 08:10 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:42 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
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(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.

A couple? Memphis was the first team to be in 3 consecutive championships in AAC history. They have two championships. What the F has ECU ever done? Baseball?

They have the most wins in the AAC over a nine year period in the AAC. Who's delusional?

Whooped Memphis’s ass for years.
https://www.winsipedia.com/games/east-ca...vs/memphis

I really wonder how long some of you have followed Memphis. Memphis made two good hires with Fuente and Norvell and now they appear to be regressing to the mean of their program stature and what they put into it. And some of you want to fire the guy that has Memphis performing well above its historical performances.

Who hasn't whipped their ass for years?

Hey what's your problem?
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RE: While we wait. Start a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand
(07-04-2023 08:10 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:42 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 03:26 PM)rook360 Wrote:  
(07-04-2023 02:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  In the same way the AAC being a better league than them when Texas and OU are gone made them raid the AAC for its top 3 schools. This league would be better than the Big 12 competitively. Just the idea of seeing it happen might make the Big12 move forward with expansion of Memphis, SDSU, SMU & USF.

So this thread is really about Starting a league to challenge the Big12 & PAC12 to force their hand in hopes that the Big12 or the PAC12 grab Memphis, SDSU, SMU, and USF.

WOW ECU!! guess you Temple and Tulsa are just dead weight and memphis fans are ready to cut bait.

POWER FORWARD BABY!!!

They are just delusional. They had a couple of decent football seasons and think they are a premier college athletics program now. They think they are too good to go 7-5 which is pretty funny. I saw a Memphis fan on twitter the other day arguing with people that Memphis is a better school academically than BYU and TCU. It comes out in the wash.

A couple? Memphis was the first team to be in 3 consecutive championships in AAC history. They have two championships. What the F has ECU ever done? Baseball?

They have the most wins in the AAC over a nine year period in the AAC. Who's delusional?

Whooped Memphis’s ass for years.
https://www.winsipedia.com/games/east-ca...vs/memphis

I really wonder how long some of you have followed Memphis. Memphis made two good hires with Fuente and Norvell and now they appear to be regressing to the mean of their program stature and what they put into it. And some of you want to fire the guy that has Memphis performing well above its historical performances.

We sure do. He's an Opie.
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