He abuses the portal. Our weirdo fans always outdoing each other.

(06-21-2023 12:01 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  One thing that disturbs me a little bit about Penny's tenure is the turnover we've had with players and assistants. Yes, with the transfer portal, many schools are experiencing high levels of turnover. But most programs don't seem to have almost 100% turnover on their roster (and I realize much of this was that we had a senior-heavy roster last year).

I'm more concerned about the turnover with assistant coaches.

There are reports from yesterday that Larry Brown is likely to become an assistant at Washington. I'm sure that it was supposed to be a short gig at Memphis, but I'm also suspect that there weren't some other things going on behind the scenes with his departure.

There are rumors that there is really bad blood between Penny and Mike Miller. Also that some athletic staff have found Penny difficult to work with (which is rumored to be a contributing factor in a few folks leaving for other schools).

Is Penny difficult to work with-- or is this just par for the course in college basketball these days?

What a stupid topic. No one on this board has worked with Penny. People are just ridiculous.

(06-21-2023 01:05 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 12:41 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 12:32 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  It is really difficult to tell anymore if someone difficult or are those surrounding them whiny. So many people cannot take direction from leadership anymore. They expect to have their balls licked and asses patted while being praised for every asinine idea they have. You cannot correct because that is hateful, not teaching. You cannot yell because that is triggering. And so on. People simply do not like to be held accountable anymore and many have never been held accountable and have no idea how to react when held accountable. So, their response is to leave...

So, is he difficult or does he just recognize he is the top dog and expects others to follow his final decision whether their idea was different or not? I honestly cannot think of any great coach that would not be considered difficult because they know what they want, how they want it and then expect it be done to perfection.

Great post

There are still lots of coaches with long time assistants. Calipari has kept assistants for decades. I just don’t see Penny as someone with a consistent retinue. The Stansburys and Haiths are fine— you know they’ll probably be short term and can cover your own weaknesses— but there has to be some stability, too. Yesterday’s news sounds like a health issue wasn’t the only thing going on with Larry Brown

Cal surrounds himself with 'yes men' and thats why his coaching tree kinda sucks.

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 12:01 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  One thing that disturbs me a little bit about Penny's tenure is the turnover we've had with players and assistants. Yes, with the transfer portal, many schools are experiencing high levels of turnover. But most programs don't seem to have almost 100% turnover on their roster (and I realize much of this was that we had a senior-heavy roster last year).

I'm more concerned about the turnover with assistant coaches.

There are reports from yesterday that Larry Brown is likely to become an assistant at Washington. I'm sure that it was supposed to be a short gig at Memphis, but I'm also suspect that there weren't some other things going on behind the scenes with his departure.

There are rumors that there is really bad blood between Penny and Mike Miller. Also that some athletic staff have found Penny difficult to work with (which is rumored to be a contributing factor in a few folks leaving for other schools).

Is Penny difficult to work with-- or is this just par for the course in college basketball these days?

There have been a few post-game comments that tend to support the position that Penny has some issues.

His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

He takes things too personally at times.

You are hilarious. You take what was the turning point of Penny's coaching career, and are concerned about it?

After Ole Piss Game 5-3
Since then 44-16

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

You talking about your boy crush Joshie??? You are such a woman.

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

The guy from way up north did it again above a few posts----MEMPHIS fans/people WEIRD/BAD---Montreal/Toronto people fans GOOD---shot after shot attacking MEMPHIS and the fans of the university.

Yes he threw the players under the bus.

The coach worshippers !!!!! Remember MEMPHIS coaches and all MEMPHIS brass do no WRONG and are beyond reproach. ......Only the fans are wrong/bad.

(06-21-2023 10:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

The guy from way up north did it again above a few posts----MEMPHIS fans/people WEIRD/BAD---Montreal/Toronto people fans GOOD---shot after shot attacking MEMPHIS and the fans of the university.

Yes he threw the players under the bus.

The coach worshippers !!!!! Remember MEMPHIS coaches and all MEMPHIS brass do no WRONG and are beyond reproach. ......Only the fans are wrong/bad.

Pastner? That Pastner?

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

Quote:Doesn't matter what happened after that.

44-16.

(06-21-2023 10:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

The guy from way up north did it again above a few posts----MEMPHIS fans/people WEIRD/BAD---Montreal/Toronto people fans GOOD---shot after shot attacking MEMPHIS and the fans of the university.

Yes he threw the players under the bus.

The coach worshippers !!!!! Remember MEMPHIS coaches and all MEMPHIS brass do no WRONG and are beyond reproach. ......Only the fans are wrong/bad.

You need to talk to someone professionally. According to you, there are no excuses for anything. Not having Wiseman is no excuse, we should have been just as good. Not practicing for a full month is no excuse. Not having Gainwell or Coxie is no excuse. The NCAA screwing us on DW is no excuse. Our entire offensive line being injured is no excuse; there are no excuses apparently.

Now YOU are the one giving every excuse under the sun for the fans not supporting the program, as if we are the only program that has these excuses. On top of that, you have no issue with your buddy calling Memphis the Detroit of the south, and YOU won't go downtown because of the rampant crime; yet you are somehow stupidly offended by what I say. Don't get a false sense of security just because I now choose to not respond to most of your idiotic posts. They are still idiotic. You are still the board laughingstock.

Again, get help. You need it.

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

I always chuckle when posters make it so obvious they do not actually watch basketball at large. Coaches call players out all of the time. Sometimes, it is effort, sometimes it is playing poorly, sometimes it is decision making and sometimes it is attitude.

What Penny said was uncomfortable and awkward. However, it was also true and necessary. People who find stuff like that disturbing simply do not understand being in a position of leadership and what it takes to effectively lead.

(06-21-2023 07:09 PM)Stammers Wrote:  He abuses the portal. Our weirdo fans always outdoing each other.

+1

Every thread lol

Penny "uses" the portal for recruiting like any other coach in this day and age of NIL and yearly transfers. He may be one of the best in the country given the limitations of our available NIL funds relative to power conference competitors.

He's also demonstrated improvement from the beginning to the end of the past several seasons.

I dislike roster turnover as much as any other poster on this board, but I also realize the dynamic of college sports has evolved so much since the rule changes noted above.

While Penny may have his imperfections (don't we all), he works his azz off every year to develop the young men under his wing while also winning basketball games.

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 03:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  His comments after the loss at Ole Miss were very concerning.

What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

Show us on this doll where Penny hurt you

(06-22-2023 12:29 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:36 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 09:13 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(06-21-2023 06:05 PM)Southaven Wrote:  What were those comments that were so concerning to you? He's gone to 2 NCAA tournaments since he made those concerning comments.

To most people accusing your upper-class players of sabotaging the team is concerning.

Threw them under the bus because they wouldn't do more to make freshmen the stars,

I guess we will have to draw you a picture. What happened after that?

Doesn't matter what happened after that.

He accused his players of sabotaging the team.

But since you brought it up, the freshman that he chose to side with against his upper-class players ended up going home and not staying with the team while nursing cough cough back injury.

When he was playing was completely out of control going 1 on 3 and taking wild shots.

Every time anything went wrong he blamed the players.

Show us on this doll where Penny hurt you

He was ok when Pastner threw Tarik and Joe under the bus time and time again