(06-22-2023 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:59 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 09:06 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 08:52 AM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  Have you read the articles about can USF really afford this spend? Sure an OCS sounds nice but being wise with the universities money is also prudent.

Same things and worse were said about UCF building an OCS in 2007 (& a new OC arena in the same year) but it proved very beneficial & UCF is now in the planning process of expanding to 65K capacity. Do you really think USF will go bankrupt building this stadium? USF is an AAU university with increasing endowment, high level research & 50K students. USF has many ways to finance this construction - and the will to get it done. Bravo to USF!

UCF's stadium cost $55million. Maybe $70million in todays dollars. Thats about 1/6th the price its going to cost usf.

yea, cause it looks like an erector set.

Several better quality examples at reasonable costs - UH @$105M. UAB/Birmingham @$188M. USF seems to be desirous of a luxury build.

Houston's was built 10 years ago, so that price is no longer valid (my company built that one) plus it was $128 million. I haven't seen UAB's stadium, so I cannot comment.

(06-23-2023 10:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:59 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 09:06 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Same things and worse were said about UCF building an OCS in 2007 (& a new OC arena in the same year) but it proved very beneficial & UCF is now in the planning process of expanding to 65K capacity. Do you really think USF will go bankrupt building this stadium? USF is an AAU university with increasing endowment, high level research & 50K students. USF has many ways to finance this construction - and the will to get it done. Bravo to USF!

UCF's stadium cost $55million. Maybe $70million in todays dollars. Thats about 1/6th the price its going to cost usf.

yea, cause it looks like an erector set.

Several better quality examples at reasonable costs - UH @$105M. UAB/Birmingham @$188M. USF seems to be desirous of a luxury build.

Houston's was built 10 years ago, so that price is no longer valid (my company built that one) plus it was $128 million. I haven't seen UAB's stadium, so I cannot comment.

Plus, in addition to inflation, construction costs have doubled. We had everything in place to build the stadium for under $200 million up to the pandemic, we had our best leadership in place at all levels, to do it, and we had our best historical run of success on the field. Rudd, Bowen, Fred Smith, Brad Martin, Laurie, Graf, were in place, and we didn't do it.

Anyone who implies in any way that Smith, Martin, Graf and Laurie had any type of personal interest in not building a stadium or in doing anything to trump the interests of the school, have a very bad alcohol and/or drug problem. IF we didn't build a stadium at that point, it was simply because they knew there wouldn't be enough help from the fanbase.

(06-23-2023 10:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:59 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 09:06 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Same things and worse were said about UCF building an OCS in 2007 (& a new OC arena in the same year) but it proved very beneficial & UCF is now in the planning process of expanding to 65K capacity. Do you really think USF will go bankrupt building this stadium? USF is an AAU university with increasing endowment, high level research & 50K students. USF has many ways to finance this construction - and the will to get it done. Bravo to USF!

UCF's stadium cost $55million. Maybe $70million in todays dollars. Thats about 1/6th the price its going to cost usf.

yea, cause it looks like an erector set.

Several better quality examples at reasonable costs - UH @$105M. UAB/Birmingham @$188M. USF seems to be desirous of a luxury build.

Houston's was built 10 years ago, so that price is no longer valid (my company built that one) plus it was $128 million. I haven't seen UAB's stadium, so I cannot comment.

your company built a nice stadium

of all the new stadiums in conference
the only one i like is houstons stadiuim,
with the open concourse between the lower and upper seating

(06-23-2023 10:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:59 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 09:06 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Same things and worse were said about UCF building an OCS in 2007 (& a new OC arena in the same year) but it proved very beneficial & UCF is now in the planning process of expanding to 65K capacity. Do you really think USF will go bankrupt building this stadium? USF is an AAU university with increasing endowment, high level research & 50K students. USF has many ways to finance this construction - and the will to get it done. Bravo to USF!

UCF's stadium cost $55million. Maybe $70million in todays dollars. Thats about 1/6th the price its going to cost usf.

yea, cause it looks like an erector set.

Several better quality examples at reasonable costs - UH @$105M. UAB/Birmingham @$188M. USF seems to be desirous of a luxury build.

Houston's was built 10 years ago, so that price is no longer valid (my company built that one) plus it was $128 million. I haven't seen UAB's stadium, so I cannot comment.

According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

(06-23-2023 10:21 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 10:01 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:59 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 04:57 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  UCF's stadium cost $55million. Maybe $70million in todays dollars. Thats about 1/6th the price its going to cost usf.

yea, cause it looks like an erector set.

Several better quality examples at reasonable costs - UH @$105M. UAB/Birmingham @$188M. USF seems to be desirous of a luxury build.

Houston's was built 10 years ago, so that price is no longer valid (my company built that one) plus it was $128 million. I haven't seen UAB's stadium, so I cannot comment.

According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

Just so we are clear, he is telling you that his company built the stadium and the cost was $128 million. You are telling him...someone that worked with the company that built the stadium, that he is wrong.

This will be a fun way to promote your lack of reading comprehension. Please provide a link showing that the total cost of the stadium was $105 million. Please make sure to mention that I am a Canuck when you provide the link.

Not disputing accual cost, simply repeating the description provided by StadiumDB.com

"TDECU Stadium – stadium description
In early 2010 the University of Houston commissioned a feasibility study into potential redevelopment of Robertson Stadium. By June it was clear the structure would be destroyed completely. New one would replace it, but also be rotated by roughly 90 degrees to ensure a great view of Houston’s skyline for many fans sitting along the south side.

Construction was launched in December 2012, but formal groundbreaking ceremony was held in February 2013. The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Though with last minute works still ongoing, the stadium was opened without major glitches on August 29, 2014. From that day on it’s the home of Cougars, UH football team. Before opening the first naming rights partner was found, local financial giant TDECU. The company agreed to pay $15 million for a decade of naming rights.

The stadium was designed with 40,000 people in mind, most of them on benches. But, should demand grow, it’s already prepared to get extra 20,000 capacity without major interference with current structures. There are 26 large suites, 42 smaller skyboxes and 766 corporate seats."

And BTW for the simple canuck, I worked for Boeing & Lockheed but was not privy to all of their projects.

(06-23-2023 11:08 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not disputing accual cost, simply repeating the description provided by StadiumDB.com

"TDECU Stadium – stadium description
In early 2010 the University of Houston commissioned a feasibility study into potential redevelopment of Robertson Stadium. By June it was clear the structure would be destroyed completely. New one would replace it, but also be rotated by roughly 90 degrees to ensure a great view of Houston’s skyline for many fans sitting along the south side.

Construction was launched in December 2012, but formal groundbreaking ceremony was held in February 2013. The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Though with last minute works still ongoing, the stadium was opened without major glitches on August 29, 2014. From that day on it’s the home of Cougars, UH football team. Before opening the first naming rights partner was found, local financial giant TDECU. The company agreed to pay $15 million for a decade of naming rights.

The stadium was designed with 40,000 people in mind, most of them on benches. But, should demand grow, it’s already prepared to get extra 20,000 capacity without major interference with current structures. There are 26 large suites, 42 smaller skyboxes and 766 corporate seats."

And BTW for the simple canuck, I worked for Boeing & Lockheed but was not privy to all of their projects.

As usual, doubling down on nonsense. He says he worked for the company that built it and you are trying to tell him that he is wrong.

Quote:According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

Reading comprehension Tublanta...

Quote:The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Quoting the cost of a present day stadium based on the cost of a stadium that broke ground 10 years ago. Where does it say anywhere in public records that the total cost of the stadium was $105 million? Reading comprehension on point as usual Tublanta...

(06-23-2023 11:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:08 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not disputing accual cost, simply repeating the description provided by StadiumDB.com

"TDECU Stadium – stadium description
In early 2010 the University of Houston commissioned a feasibility study into potential redevelopment of Robertson Stadium. By June it was clear the structure would be destroyed completely. New one would replace it, but also be rotated by roughly 90 degrees to ensure a great view of Houston’s skyline for many fans sitting along the south side.

Construction was launched in December 2012, but formal groundbreaking ceremony was held in February 2013. The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Though with last minute works still ongoing, the stadium was opened without major glitches on August 29, 2014. From that day on it’s the home of Cougars, UH football team. Before opening the first naming rights partner was found, local financial giant TDECU. The company agreed to pay $15 million for a decade of naming rights.

The stadium was designed with 40,000 people in mind, most of them on benches. But, should demand grow, it’s already prepared to get extra 20,000 capacity without major interference with current structures. There are 26 large suites, 42 smaller skyboxes and 766 corporate seats."

And BTW for the simple canuck, I worked for Boeing & Lockheed but was not privy to all of their projects.

As usual, doubling down on nonsense. He says he worked for the company that built it and you are trying to tell him that he is wrong.

Quote:According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

Reading comprehension Tublanta...

Quote:The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Quoting the cost of a present day stadium based on the cost of a stadium that broke ground 10 years ago. Where does it say anywhere in public records that the total cost of the stadium was $105 million? Reading comprehension on point as usual Tublanta...

Maybe a better example is claiming we're 2nd Cincy for a B12 invite or announcing the B12 doesn't have a GOR. Or maybe everyone is tired of your psychosis.

(06-23-2023 11:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:08 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not disputing accual cost, simply repeating the description provided by StadiumDB.com

"TDECU Stadium – stadium description
In early 2010 the University of Houston commissioned a feasibility study into potential redevelopment of Robertson Stadium. By June it was clear the structure would be destroyed completely. New one would replace it, but also be rotated by roughly 90 degrees to ensure a great view of Houston’s skyline for many fans sitting along the south side.

Construction was launched in December 2012, but formal groundbreaking ceremony was held in February 2013. The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Though with last minute works still ongoing, the stadium was opened without major glitches on August 29, 2014. From that day on it’s the home of Cougars, UH football team. Before opening the first naming rights partner was found, local financial giant TDECU. The company agreed to pay $15 million for a decade of naming rights.

The stadium was designed with 40,000 people in mind, most of them on benches. But, should demand grow, it’s already prepared to get extra 20,000 capacity without major interference with current structures. There are 26 large suites, 42 smaller skyboxes and 766 corporate seats."

And BTW for the simple canuck, I worked for Boeing & Lockheed but was not privy to all of their projects.

As usual, doubling down on nonsense. He says he worked for the company that built it and you are trying to tell him that he is wrong.

Quote:According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

Reading comprehension Tublanta...

Quote:The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Quoting the cost of a present day stadium based on the cost of a stadium that broke ground 10 years ago. Where does it say anywhere in public records that the total cost of the stadium was $105 million? Reading comprehension on point as usual Tublanta...

Maybe a better example is claiming we're 2nd Cincy for a B12 invite or announcing the B12 doesn't have a GOR. Or maybe everyone is tired of your psychosis.

Obviously, I was right with my info on the Big 12. Your buddy Tubby, his lawyer and a dozen other posters confirmed my info to be true.

- Insisting that a stadium with a documented cost of $128 million everywhere AND confirmation from someone at the company that built it costs $105 million

- Insisting that Silverfield got the extension in 2022 when he got it in 2020

- Insisting that anyone that thought Tubby should get fired before 5 (FIVE) seasons because he was winning more than he was losing, was an idiot.

- Claiming that we played for the national championship against Kansas in the 2007 season.

- Claiming you were at a road game against Temple with the temperature in "the mid teens," when it never got below 42F

Psychosis? Your behaviour is the pure definition of it. Remember this?

Quote:You whiners turn EVERY THREAD INTO A CRITICIZE THE COACH thread - even when he is clearly out performing JP, the darling of many you. And BTW, I'm far from a Tubby lover, but I'm a fan & support the program. All the whining & complaining & regurgitating everything you don't like about Tubby ad nauseum gets very old - especially when the team is clearly better than anything on the floor for Memphis in the last 3 yrs. Tubby's contract hasn't changed since he came to Memphis & yet another thread to complain - all the while recruits we want tell us critical fans discourage their interest in Memphis.....SMH.

What a hypocrite.

(06-23-2023 11:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:08 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not disputing accual cost, simply repeating the description provided by StadiumDB.com

"TDECU Stadium – stadium description
In early 2010 the University of Houston commissioned a feasibility study into potential redevelopment of Robertson Stadium. By June it was clear the structure would be destroyed completely. New one would replace it, but also be rotated by roughly 90 degrees to ensure a great view of Houston’s skyline for many fans sitting along the south side.

Construction was launched in December 2012, but formal groundbreaking ceremony was held in February 2013. The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Though with last minute works still ongoing, the stadium was opened without major glitches on August 29, 2014. From that day on it’s the home of Cougars, UH football team. Before opening the first naming rights partner was found, local financial giant TDECU. The company agreed to pay $15 million for a decade of naming rights.

The stadium was designed with 40,000 people in mind, most of them on benches. But, should demand grow, it’s already prepared to get extra 20,000 capacity without major interference with current structures. There are 26 large suites, 42 smaller skyboxes and 766 corporate seats."

And BTW for the simple canuck, I worked for Boeing & Lockheed but was not privy to all of their projects.

As usual, doubling down on nonsense. He says he worked for the company that built it and you are trying to tell him that he is wrong.

Quote:According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

Reading comprehension Tublanta...

Quote:The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Quoting the cost of a present day stadium based on the cost of a stadium that broke ground 10 years ago. Where does it say anywhere in public records that the total cost of the stadium was $105 million? Reading comprehension on point as usual Tublanta...

Maybe a better example is claiming we're 2nd Cincy for a B12 invite or announcing the B12 doesn't have a GOR. Or maybe everyone is tired of your psychosis.

Obviously, I was right with my info on the Big 12. Your buddy Tubby, his lawyer and a dozen other posters confirmed my info to be true.

- Insisting that a stadium with a documented cost of $128 million everywhere AND confirmation from someone at the company that built it costs $105 million

- Insisting that Silverfield got the extension in 2022 when he got it in 2020

- Insisting that anyone that thought Tubby should get fired before 5 (FIVE) seasons because he was winning more than he was losing, was an idiot.

- Claiming that we played for the national championship against Kansas in the 2007 season.

- Claiming you were at a road game against Temple with the temperature in "the mid teens," when it never got below 42F

Psychosis? Your behaviour is the pure definition of it. Remember this?

Quote:You whiners turn EVERY THREAD INTO A CRITICIZE THE COACH thread - even when he is clearly out performing JP, the darling of many you. And BTW, I'm far from a Tubby lover, but I'm a fan & support the program. All the whining & complaining & regurgitating everything you don't like about Tubby ad nauseum gets very old - especially when the team is clearly better than anything on the floor for Memphis in the last 3 yrs. Tubby's contract hasn't changed since he came to Memphis & yet another thread to complain - all the while recruits we want tell us critical fans discourage their interest in Memphis.....SMH.

Hope you get some help....... but I'm done with your outlandish argumentative, dishonest behavior. Do you realize how foolish you look keeping a history list of message board comments that have been explained in context on a number of fans who can otherwise have civil impersonal conversations yet you persist in distortion, argument & personal insult. You are sick & need help.

(06-23-2023 11:58 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:47 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:08 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not disputing accual cost, simply repeating the description provided by StadiumDB.com

"TDECU Stadium – stadium description
In early 2010 the University of Houston commissioned a feasibility study into potential redevelopment of Robertson Stadium. By June it was clear the structure would be destroyed completely. New one would replace it, but also be rotated by roughly 90 degrees to ensure a great view of Houston’s skyline for many fans sitting along the south side.

Construction was launched in December 2012, but formal groundbreaking ceremony was held in February 2013. The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Though with last minute works still ongoing, the stadium was opened without major glitches on August 29, 2014. From that day on it’s the home of Cougars, UH football team. Before opening the first naming rights partner was found, local financial giant TDECU. The company agreed to pay $15 million for a decade of naming rights.

The stadium was designed with 40,000 people in mind, most of them on benches. But, should demand grow, it’s already prepared to get extra 20,000 capacity without major interference with current structures. There are 26 large suites, 42 smaller skyboxes and 766 corporate seats."

And BTW for the simple canuck, I worked for Boeing & Lockheed but was not privy to all of their projects.

As usual, doubling down on nonsense. He says he worked for the company that built it and you are trying to tell him that he is wrong.

Quote:According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

Reading comprehension Tublanta...

Quote:The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Quoting the cost of a present day stadium based on the cost of a stadium that broke ground 10 years ago. Where does it say anywhere in public records that the total cost of the stadium was $105 million? Reading comprehension on point as usual Tublanta...

Maybe a better example is claiming we're 2nd Cincy for a B12 invite or announcing the B12 doesn't have a GOR. Or maybe everyone is tired of your psychosis.

Obviously, I was right with my info on the Big 12. Your buddy Tubby, his lawyer and a dozen other posters confirmed my info to be true.

- Insisting that a stadium with a documented cost of $128 million everywhere AND confirmation from someone at the company that built it costs $105 million

- Insisting that Silverfield got the extension in 2022 when he got it in 2020

- Insisting that anyone that thought Tubby should get fired before 5 (FIVE) seasons because he was winning more than he was losing, was an idiot.

- Claiming that we played for the national championship against Kansas in the 2007 season.

- Claiming you were at a road game against Temple with the temperature in "the mid teens," when it never got below 42F

Psychosis? Your behaviour is the pure definition of it. Remember this?

Quote:You whiners turn EVERY THREAD INTO A CRITICIZE THE COACH thread - even when he is clearly out performing JP, the darling of many you. And BTW, I'm far from a Tubby lover, but I'm a fan & support the program. All the whining & complaining & regurgitating everything you don't like about Tubby ad nauseum gets very old - especially when the team is clearly better than anything on the floor for Memphis in the last 3 yrs. Tubby's contract hasn't changed since he came to Memphis & yet another thread to complain - all the while recruits we want tell us critical fans discourage their interest in Memphis.....SMH.

Hope you get some help....... but I'm done with your outlandish argumentative, dishonest behavior. Do you realize how foolish you look keeping a history list of message board comments that have been explained in context on a number of fans who can otherwise have civil impersonal conversations yet you persist in distortion, argument & personal insult. You are sick & need help.

This must be humiliating for you...

Tubby
- Defend him tooth and nail
- Defend his record
- Say that anyone that wants him fired before 5 years is an idiot
- Blast posters that criticize Tubby as whiners who are harming the program with fans, the media and recruits
- His record was fine with you
- Just support the program

Silverfield
- Wanted him fired after 3 years with a better record than Tubby
- blast literally EVERYTHING about the program, the coaches, admin, president, EVERYTHING, non stop
- Just support the program? What a joke.

Nothing dishonest about anything in this post or anywhere else. YOUR WORDS Tublanta.

(06-23-2023 11:40 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:17 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 11:08 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Not disputing accual cost, simply repeating the description provided by StadiumDB.com

"TDECU Stadium – stadium description
In early 2010 the University of Houston commissioned a feasibility study into potential redevelopment of Robertson Stadium. By June it was clear the structure would be destroyed completely. New one would replace it, but also be rotated by roughly 90 degrees to ensure a great view of Houston’s skyline for many fans sitting along the south side.

Construction was launched in December 2012, but formal groundbreaking ceremony was held in February 2013. The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Though with last minute works still ongoing, the stadium was opened without major glitches on August 29, 2014. From that day on it’s the home of Cougars, UH football team. Before opening the first naming rights partner was found, local financial giant TDECU. The company agreed to pay $15 million for a decade of naming rights.

The stadium was designed with 40,000 people in mind, most of them on benches. But, should demand grow, it’s already prepared to get extra 20,000 capacity without major interference with current structures. There are 26 large suites, 42 smaller skyboxes and 766 corporate seats."

And BTW for the simple canuck, I worked for Boeing & Lockheed but was not privy to all of their projects.

As usual, doubling down on nonsense. He says he worked for the company that built it and you are trying to tell him that he is wrong.

Quote:According to public records that contract was revised down to $105M. Congrats your company must have found someway to reduce costs.

Reading comprehension Tublanta...

Quote:The simple steel prefab skeleton was initially thought to cost $120 million, but the budget was reduced ahead of construction to $105 million.

Quoting the cost of a present day stadium based on the cost of a stadium that broke ground 10 years ago. Where does it say anywhere in public records that the total cost of the stadium was $105 million? Reading comprehension on point as usual Tublanta...

Maybe a better example is claiming we're 2nd Cincy for a B12 invite or announcing the B12 doesn't have a GOR. Or maybe everyone is tired of your psychosis.

......nobody wants Houston---Tubby contacted MEMPHIS