If it’s a full membership offer you have to take it. Plus the BE will be around if things don’t work out. They will take us back.

Yormark made it known he would like a separate package for hoops in 2030. Tank will immediately poopoo this and reference the Big Ten, but it might make a larger impact for the Big XII—and therein you have expanding time zones and adding basketball-first schools. People sleep on UNLV, but they have cache for recruits still—including a #1 overall pick last decade.

It seems Gonzaga is off the table. I like his picks, even if it only ends up being Memphis and UNLV. Both those programs fit the rebellious (albeit probably manufactured) nature of the Big XII, which houses much of the the renegade spirit of the SWC, MVC, Big 8, Metro, and C-USA.

SWC - Baylor, TCU, TTU, and Houston

MVC - Cincinnati, Memphis*, and Houston

Big 8 - ISU, KU, K-State, OK State

Metro - Cincinnati, Memphis*

C-USA - Cincinnati, Memphis*, UCF

WAC - BYU, UNLV*, and SDSU*



Remember, WVU was this close to Metro membership in the 80’s and BYU has a bit of a bad boy image as well lol

(05-18-2023 10:13 AM)esayem Wrote:  Yormark made it known he would like a separate package for hoops in 2030. Tank will immediately poopoo this and reference the Big Ten, but it might make a larger impact for the Big XII—and therein you have expanding time zones and adding basketball-first schools. People sleep on UNLV, but they have cache for recruits still—including a #1 overall pick last decade.

It seems Gonzaga is off the table. I like his picks, even if it only ends up being Memphis and UNLV. Both those programs fit the rebellious (albeit probably manufactured) nature of the Big XII, which houses much of the the renegade spirit of the SWC, MVC, Big 8, Metro, and C-USA.

SWC - Baylor, TCU, TTU, and Houston

MVC - Cincinnati, Memphis*, and Houston

Big 8 - ISU, KU, K-State, OK State

Metro - Cincinnati, Memphis*

C-USA - Cincinnati, Memphis*, UCF

WAC - BYU, UNLV*, and SDSU*



Remember, WVU was this close to Metro membership in the 80’s and BYU has a bit of a bad boy image as well lol

I read your post and pondered ... "Did I write this and pretend to be esayem?" Taken straight from the Dazzle playbook.

You nailed it, my friend.

Honestly, I kind of hope the ACC swoops in and invites UConn as an Olympic sports member with a 5-game football slate (like Notre Dame).

That would allow the ACC to reopen the contract, bring in a top-10 Olympic sports AD, and not bring in UConn football full-time. UConn would probably get about 10 million per year which is what their basketball programs alone are worth.

(05-18-2023 11:25 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Honestly, I kind of hope the ACC swoops in and invites UConn as an Olympic sports member with a 5-game football slate (like Notre Dame).

That would allow the ACC to reopen the contract, bring in a top-10 Olympic sports AD, and not bring in UConn football full-time. UConn would probably get about 10 million per year which is what their basketball programs alone are worth.

That would be a fine scenario for UConn.

(05-18-2023 11:25 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Honestly, I kind of hope the ACC swoops in and invites UConn as an Olympic sports member with a 5-game football slate (like Notre Dame).

That would allow the ACC to reopen the contract, bring in a top-10 Olympic sports AD, and not bring in UConn football full-time. UConn would probably get about 10 million per year which is what their basketball programs alone are worth.

The problem with that is: BC will block you. If the AG Blumenthal didn't sue BC etc., you would probably be in by now.

(05-18-2023 12:11 PM)ZooMass84 Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 11:25 AM)shizzle787 Wrote:  Honestly, I kind of hope the ACC swoops in and invites UConn as an Olympic sports member with a 5-game football slate (like Notre Dame).

That would allow the ACC to reopen the contract, bring in a top-10 Olympic sports AD, and not bring in UConn football full-time. UConn would probably get about 10 million per year which is what their basketball programs alone are worth.

The problem with that is: BC will block you. If the AG Blumenthal didn't sue BC etc., you would probably be in by now.

I don't think BC has the ability to block anyone at this point.

Beyond that, I'm not even convinced BC has the desire to block us. Their thesis (keeping us out would help them) hasn't played out. And recently they supported our joining Hockey East and we have started scheduling in football, baseball and other sports.

(05-18-2023 12:18 PM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  I don't think BC has the ability to block anyone at this point.

Beyond that, I'm not even convinced BC has the desire to block us. Their thesis (keeping us out would help them) hasn't played out. And recently they supported our joining Hockey East and we have started scheduling in football, baseball and other sports.

Sometimes those situations are just overblown personality conflicts.

BC and UConn should play every season in every sport.

And each should play UMass every season in every sport, even if the UMass administration has to swallow its pride and agree to a 2-for-1 in basketball or a 3-for-1 in football.

Both sides need to have some give and take

He definitely has an interesting situation in place. With the potential amount of consolidation coming, I think he ends up having no choice but to move to the Big 12 if they accept UConn's application.

(05-18-2023 10:13 AM)esayem Wrote:  BYU has a bit of a bad boy image as well lol

Fun times.

(05-18-2023 07:53 AM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:51 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  The BBall will suffer if recruits don't want to play there. Can they still recruit as they have without the NYC/Philli presence? I doubt it.

The idea should be to convince BC/Cuse' to come back to the BE and cobble something respectable in FBS football without the goal of competing for conference titles and playoff berths.

If only they could play half of their games in the Northeast, perhaps in the Storrs or Hartford areas. Oh, wait, they already do that, and would continue to have home games even if they moved to another conference.

NYC & Philly are critical though. And nothing beats a conference tourny @ Madison Square Garden. Even the B1G is desperate to host their tourny there

As a reminder, if UConn were to leave the Big East within the first six years of joining (through 7/1/2026), they would owe the conference $30 million. It gradually decreases over that time period, but $30 million is still nearly double than what it paid to leave the AAC in 2019.

But, if they are getting $40 million-plus in the Big 12, it could essentially pay for itself within a few years (as one year's worth of TV revenue will not all go directly to paying an exit fee).

(05-18-2023 09:53 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 09:15 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  If Bob Diaco had a time machine he would stop himself from walking into that Home Depot and making that trophy.

His career never recovered.

Going 11-26 at UConn didn't help either.

Watching and listening to Yappy's incessant need to promote anything and everything under the Big XII umbrella, we should totally expect him to bring back Civil ConFLiCT if UConn joins the conference.

Could even see it permanently scheduled as the first game of every College Football season, adding yet another layer of tradition to the rivalry.

Week 1 and 0 are pretty rough. Civil ConFLCT in week 1 sounds pretty fun to me. College footballs silly. I like a silly rivalry.

(05-18-2023 08:00 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:54 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:49 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Relegate the Football team to FCS and just stay in the Big East.

And hemorrhage more money? FBS > FCS all day everyday and twice on Sunday

The major story from UConn Football last season was Jim Mora lives in a haunted house.

The 2nd biggest story was UConn football is bowl eligible but has no bowl ties.

And yet, UConn was invited and played in a bowl as it will do any season where it is eligible.

Quote: Even before the program won its fifth national championship last month in Houston, the Huskies had regained national relevance, having left the empty gyms of the American Athletic Conference behind for rivalries reborn and the bright lights of New York City and beyond.

I suspect this is the key line of the article. The quality/fan support of XII basketball is very high or aka not the anchor to UConn basketball that they felt the aac was

Jackson

If the Big 12 wants UConn and UC declines the invite, that decision will be strongly due to men's hoops. Because in the other three sports, the choice is clear.

Various rankings of the past few seasons have the Big 12 always better (and in some years significantly so) than the Big East in both baseball and women's basketball. And, of course, the Big 12 offers FBS football.

I've yet to fully compare the academics of the future 12-member Big 12 to the current Big East lineup. At quick glance of various sites, its seems is the Big 12 is slightly superior (and perhaps a full notch better).

Yes, it will be a tough decision for UConn if the university is faced with making a choice. I get the arguments involving Husky men's basketball related to fan interest, MSG for the BE tourney, historic Northeast rivalries and recruiting. All legitimate factors, no doubt.

Maybe in an odd way, some UConn fans/admins are hoping the Big 12 opportunity fails to present itself — and thus a tough choice does not have to be made.

Whiteboard. Sure,sure.

(05-18-2023 08:46 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:00 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:54 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 07:49 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Relegate the Football team to FCS and just stay in the Big East.

And hemorrhage more money? FBS > FCS all day everyday and twice on Sunday

The major story from UConn Football last season was Jim Mora lives in a haunted house.

The 2nd biggest story was UConn football is bowl eligible but has no bowl ties.

I guess I’d look at it this way:

Insert any G5 school’s name and say that they were in the shortlist to get a Big 12 or other P5 invite. It could be Memphis, Boise State, Appalachian State, MTSU, Louisiana Tech, anyone. Would we EVER have the reaction of, “That school should move down to FCS” if there’s a legitimate report were about to get a P5 invite? Of course not! That’s insane! Yet, that’s a not uncommon reaction about UConn for whatever reason.

The whole point of moving up to FBS football for UConn was that they got to join a then-power conference immediately and maintaining FBS has been to keep their lottery ticket to get into a different P5 league. I like the Big East as much as anyone, but UConn has to move to the Big 12 if they get the invite.

I agree. Too much money, too much exposure to pass it up.

It would also seem Yormark is taking a non-traditional path to basketball prowess by grabbing great brands from multiple regions. UConn fits in well with that model and it could very well lead to more additions in the Northeast.

Can you imagine UConn at Rucker Park on a regular basis? You want to penetrate New York and Philadelphia then find ways to get programs from that region into unique match-ups.

(05-18-2023 10:12 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  It would also seem Yormark is taking a non-traditional path to basketball prowess by grabbing great brands from multiple regions. UConn fits in well with that model and it could very well lead to more additions in the Northeast.

Other than Temple, I don't see any other. Georgetown is not certainly answering that call.

What would they do with men’s soccer?

(05-18-2023 10:27 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  What would they do with men’s soccer?

America East affiliate?