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Conference changes?
I am new to the whole UCF community, entering grad school there come Jan. So I am out of the loop on pretty much everything and only just started following UCF with the start of the current football season.

My question is, what are the odds UCF will move to a bigger (more prestigious) conference like the BE, ACC or SEC? Or is UCF in CUSA for the long haul?

If UCF is looking to move what sort of time frame are we talking here?
12-27-2005 11:50 AM
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Welcome to our board, nuhusky

The only thing foreseable that could happen to take UCF out of C-USA would be Big East splitting. But their BCS affiliation is questionable in a few years. I wouldn't expect to see anything unless there is another big shake up from the top-down. That's the way things seem to work.

Just a little advice... must posters on the C-USA board are annoyed with conference shake-up talk.
12-27-2005 01:06 PM
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Re: Conference changes?
nuhusky Wrote:I am new to the whole UCF community, entering grad school there come Jan. So I am out of the loop on pretty much everything and only just started following UCF with the start of the current football season.

My question is, what are the odds UCF will move to a bigger (more prestigious) conference like the BE, ACC or SEC? Or is UCF in CUSA for the long haul?

If UCF is looking to move what sort of time frame are we talking here?

I would like to think that C-USA will gain an automatic BCS bid and UCF won't move to another conference. I think more about what we could accomplish as a C-USA member than about bolting for a so-called better conference. However, I think our administration, in the backs of their minds, is thinking about getting into one of the "big six" conferences.

Remember, though, that this works two ways: UCF has to be invited in order to go to another conference. Without an attractive invitation to go elsewhere, we remain in C-USA.

Based on the resources we have and on what Orlando offers as a top 20 TV market, I think UCF will be in a BCS conference eventually, one way or another. I believe it's a question of "when," not "if." I hope it doesn't mean leaving C-USA, but we'll see.
12-28-2005 05:11 AM
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The popular school of thought is that:

The current C-USA is better for UCF than the current Big East in every way except for the paycheck. Many fans don't even want to think about playing up north after our MAC experience. Our growth could be hindered in such a dominate basketball league and our baseball, the most competitive sport that UCF has natioanlly, wouldn't flourish like it will in C-USA.

Almost all agree that it wouldn't be wise for UCF to accept a Big East football only invitation. If that happened, how could we expect C-USA to keep us in all other sports? They shouldn't and we'd be back in the A-Sun or the SoCon. This would be a regression that would be more criticised than our football move to the Big East would be praised...especially if we aren't playing in the BCS bowl.

However, you have to scratch your head when you think of a scenerio where the Big East raids C-USA in an effort to go to 12 teams. What good would it do to stay in C-USA if Memphis, Southern Miss and ECU all left. We would definitely want to be in that group, if it should happen.

Anythings possible, but this Knight fan wants to see the current 12 C-USA teams stay in for the long haul. If we all stay put, good things could happen.

NUHusky - if you haven't already found it, come on by ucfsports.com. It's a great board with many Knight fans. The site owner does a great job with providing information at both a premium and free level. I suggest you don't make your entrance over there with a conference realignment thread - there have been all too many already.
12-28-2005 07:21 PM
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The good thing is nothing will happen for the next 4 years... The BE cant split before then without losing BB credits... so we have a few years to enjoy the cusa ride. I dont think the BE is in any danger of losing its bcs bid ... they have locked it up for the last 2 years.. and Pitt, WV, and louisville all should be good next year... if and when BE splits in 1/2 and I'm not at all sure that happens... UCF would be one of the top 2 choices for them to take. If i had my preference.. i would like to see CUSA have 2 or 3 schools take a big step foward and break in the bcs itself... one new rule bcs has is looking at market size... they did that to help BE... well that helps us have a big step up over MWC.
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st932253 Wrote:The popular school of thought is that:
Almost all agree that it wouldn't be wise for UCF to accept a Big East football only invitation. If that happened, how could we expect C-USA to keep us in all other sports? They shouldn't and we'd be back in the A-Sun or the SoCon. This would be a regression that would be more criticised than our football move to the Big East would be praised...especially if we aren't playing in the BCS bowl.

Well, back when there was talk of UCF joining the Big East initially as a football-only member (and to become a full member later), there were rumors that the Big East would arrange to place UCF's other sports in the A10.

Personally, I enjoy UCF being in a more southern league, and the location of CUSA member schools can make for some great weekend vacations. UCF always tends to schedule some traditional OoC powerhouses to keep things interesting.

If the Big East keeps its BCS bid (assuming the BCS even remains), look for UCF to become the latest member. It's all about the $$$, and by just being in a BCS conference we'd get a piece of the BCS pie. If you look at the BCS revenue this year, and how the conferences split up the money, the Big East from a revenue standpoint is almost TOO GOOD, because there are only 8 teams splitting the money as opposed to like 12. I don't think the other BCS conferences will continue to let a 7-game conference schedule get you a BCS ticket.
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With the changes that have been made to make it easier (that's a relative term) for nonBCS programs to get a BCS bowl bid (you need to finish in the top 12 and higher than one of the Big 6 Conference champs instead of having to finish in the top 6), the reasons for wanting to joing a BCS conference for football aren't nearly as compelling.

If U can schedule at least 2 quality BCS opponents and beat them and run the table or at most have 1 loss in conference you have a shot. If the current rules were in effect last year, TCU would have qualified for a BCS bid I believe.
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I noticed that UCF is constructing... a new light saber....sorry, couldn't resist....


I've noticed the construction of a nice looking bball arena....seems like you guys are setting yourselves up for a move to a bcs type conference....

What are your thoughts and how much do you see your new arena helping build a good bball fan base /recuiting, etc.
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Bearcats#1 Wrote:I noticed that UCF is constructing... a new light saber....sorry, couldn't resist....

More like a death star!

Quote:I've noticed the construction of a nice looking bball arena....seems like you guys are setting yourselves up for a move to a bcs type conference....

I like to think that we're setting ourselves up to have the most competitive and profitable sports program that we can. Right now, the road leads to BCS...but see above if you want my thoughts on future conference aligntment :)

Quote:What are your thoughts and how much do you see your new arena helping build a good bball fan base /recuiting, etc.

It will be huge. Our current arena is 5,000 but that isn't the problem - it's the design. The seats are pretty bad and the luxury box thing that we do have isn't good either.

The other reason attendance will go up is because around the Convocation Center will be a major retail hub as well as 5 7-story dorms. With that many students living within 50 feet of the facility...and traffic from the restaurants and shops, attendance is bound to rise.

These factors, that are unrelated to actual success on the court, will increase attendance. Increased attendance will breed better recruits and more wins. Those wins will breed even more attendance. We're literally building a solution around that Catch-22.

The Convocation Center is also necessary for UCF in that we have 44,000 students so we need that size facility for events ranging from concerts to graduation.
03-20-2006 11:35 PM
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Bearcats#1 Wrote:I noticed that UCF is constructing... a new light saber....sorry, couldn't resist....

Indeed, we are powerful as the Emperor . . . er, the athletic director . . . has foreseen.

Quote:I've noticed the construction of a nice looking bball arena....seems like you guys are setting yourselves up for a move to a bcs type conference....

What are your thoughts and how much do you see your new arena helping build a good bball fan base /recuiting, etc

Well, there's the arena, and there's also the other things being built around it. New dorm buildings are already open next to the site of the new arena. Shops and places to eat are opening up in that area as well. The baseball stadium already is in that area, and the new football stadium will be built not far from there. I think the university is doing a masterful job of positioning basketball (not to mention several other sports which play in that part of the campus) to draw a lot more interest on campus.
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with the power of the force behind us we will just make CUSA a bcs conf.
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