Quote:A tenant in New York City was able to get apartment appliances fixed after successfully drafting a legal letter to her landlord using OpenAI's ChatGPT.

Svetlana, 28, who uses the controversial yet popular chatbox for work, says that she turned to the artificial intelligence app after receiving a letter from her landlord indicating that they were going to raise her rent, Fox News reports.


In February, Svetlana says that she received a message stating that her rent would be increased by 0.4 percent, from $1,389 to $1,395.

She told SWNS media that she received the notice just a few days after requesting her rent be lowered due to multiple appliances not working in her building, an issue she has complained about in the past.

"It was the audacity to increase the rent, seemingly in retaliation after I filed a complaint and request for a rent decrease on the basis of decreased building-wide services," Svetlana said to the publication.

She then turned to ChatGPT, a bot that uses AI technology to produce humanlike conversations, where she successfully drafted a legal letter to her landlord that explained the rent increase was in retaliation for asking for a decrease and cited the New York rent stabilization code.

"It took a couple of attempts to get it perfect," Svetlana explained. "I prompted ChatGPT to add more legalese."

"That's the beauty of ChatGPT – the ability to collaborate, bounce ideas, put thoughts into a cohesive piece of writing," Svetlana said. "It's like a super-smart, objective, real-time sounding board."

Within days of sending the letter to her landlord, Svetlana says that the appliances were fixed.

"I never received an official response from my landlord. There was a sign posted in my building announcing that the laundry rooms were back in service," she added.

Svetlana told the outlet that after experiencing success with the app, she is thinking about using ChatGPT to draft a letter to her "chainsmoking" neighbors.

According to a recent study, ChatGPT has the ability to replace 80 percent of US occupations.

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Our company sent out a notice yesterday saying no AI access, specifically ChatGPT. Literally happened after a software provider trainer said "you guys can write all this with ChatGPT". LOL!

I wonder what accountants, lawyers, engineers, etc., are thinking right now … in contrast, I’m certain mo(I)st social workers will be just fine…

#hereComesThePain

My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

I'd lobby for half written/ half oral to become the standard when meausuring the student...

plagiarism/work from others is relatively easy to sniff out ... of course, snuffing it out would be deemed racisss ...

(04-25-2023 03:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

I'd lobby for half written/ half oral to become the standard when meausuring the student...

plagiarism/work from others is relatively easy to sniff out ... of course, snuffing it out would be deemed racisss ...

In HS we had to write a term paper for a class, and it had to be a minimum 5 pages.. A buddy of mine used a sentence from several sources in a paragraph and when he cited it at the bottom per the instructor he filled the pages.. He basically wrote 5-10 paragraphs for his paper. Not saying he passed the assignment, the teacher gave him credit for being creative unlike me who hit 15 pages on my author and even had to do the oral presentation.. I got marks against me for the length

He started saying 5 pages of content and cite the sources at the end in a bibliography.

(04-25-2023 03:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

I'd lobby for half written/ half oral to become the standard when meausuring the student...

plagiarism/work from others is relatively easy to sniff out ... of course, snuffing it out would be deemed racisss ...

Half oral could be rather labor intensive, but, you could have the oral part graded by the chatbot. :)

(04-25-2023 01:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I wonder what accountants, lawyers, engineers, etc., are thinking right now … in contrast, I’m certain mo(I)st social workers will be just fine…

#hereComesThePain

I'd welcome the use of AI in legal document issues. If an AI interaction can help explain some of the issues, zero issue.

It is already effectively standard in many types of documents. There are a raft of online services that can outfit you with a deed, a basic contract, and many types of very standard documents that a layperson can 'fill in the blank'. Or, think that many state Real Estate Commissions put online standard leases and contracts for sale.

The downside is when someone on the other side reviews a 'generated' document and it has flaws. Then the user will *have* to hire an attorney to undo the mess.

Or, when a generated document may not reflect a nuance in the law and exposes the person needlessly. In terms of legal briefing, I can see extensive use of AI for particularized legal research. But, any 'briefing' type research should be checked absolutely for accuracy in terms of what it purports to say.

And, I dont see how AI could do justice to human work in terms of complex, interrelated matters in building a brief or detailed motion ---- the method of creating the legal argument in whole requires a *lot* of building blocks of caselaw.

I've seen examples where AI-generated documents have generated literally false citations -- those types of things dont make me worry much.

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

If you're a teacher in a field that actually requires expertise, then it's blindingly obvious when a chatbot has been used.

I'm a professor, and this semester I put the question for one of my assignments through ChatGPT like 10 times to see what it would generate. Every single version was hot stinking garbage. Written in good English, but not a single version was remotely accurate on the facts.

It cracks me up to see Chicken Little journalists thinking these bots will take over high paying jobs, when they can't even provide a decent college-level homework assignment.

(04-26-2023 10:28 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  If you're a teacher in a field that actually requires expertise, then it's blindingly obvious when a chatbot has been used.

I'm a professor, and this semester I put the question for one of my assignments through ChatGPT like 10 times to see what it would generate. Every single version was hot stinking garbage. Written in good English, but not a single version was remotely accurate on the facts.

It cracks me up to see Chicken Little journalists thinking these bots will take over high paying jobs, when they can't even provide a decent college-level homework assignment.

Yeah, the issue with ChatGPT and other AI is that it will only give back information which it was directed to ingest. So... garbage in, garbage out. I'm going to guess in fairly short order it will improve dramatically, however. The next discussion will be attempting to find the inherent bias from whoever owns the AI as someone will certainly have a slant on how it responds to different questions (just as your search engine does already).

(04-25-2023 03:17 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 03:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

I'd lobby for half written/ half oral to become the standard when meausuring the student...

plagiarism/work from others is relatively easy to sniff out ... of course, snuffing it out would be deemed racisss ...

Half oral could be rather labor intensive, but, you could have the oral part graded by the chatbot. :)

#touche!

(04-25-2023 03:25 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 01:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  I wonder what accountants, lawyers, engineers, etc., are thinking right now … in contrast, I’m certain mo(I)st social workers will be just fine…

#hereComesThePain

I'd welcome the use of AI in legal document issues. If an AI interaction can help explain some of the issues, zero issue.

It is already effectively standard in many types of documents. There are a raft of online services that can outfit you with a deed, a basic contract, and many types of very standard documents that a layperson can 'fill in the blank'. Or, think that many state Real Estate Commissions put online standard leases and contracts for sale.

The downside is when someone on the other side reviews a 'generated' document and it has flaws. Then the user will *have* to hire an attorney to undo the mess.

Or, when a generated document may not reflect a nuance in the law and exposes the person needlessly. In terms of legal briefing, I can see extensive use of AI for particularized legal research. But, any 'briefing' type research should be checked absolutely for accuracy in terms of what it purports to say.



And, I dont see how AI could do justice to human work in terms of complex, interrelated matters in building a brief or detailed motion ---- the method of creating the legal argument in whole requires a *lot* of building blocks of caselaw.

I've seen examples where AI-generated documents have generated literally false citations -- those types of things dont make me worry much.

that’s what I figured …. limit overhead with an AI legal ‘team’, then let the ‘twisting’ commence from there … that’s what I’d do…

(04-25-2023 03:17 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 03:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

I'd lobby for half written/ half oral to become the standard when meausuring the student...

plagiarism/work from others is relatively easy to sniff out ... of course, snuffing it out would be deemed racisss ...

Half oral could be rather labor intensive, but, you could have the oral part graded by the chatbot. :)

I volunteer to grade the oral for all the biological women....

(04-26-2023 06:06 PM)blah Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 03:17 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 03:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

I'd lobby for half written/ half oral to become the standard when meausuring the student...

plagiarism/work from others is relatively easy to sniff out ... of course, snuffing it out would be deemed racisss ...

Half oral could be rather labor intensive, but, you could have the oral part graded by the chatbot. :)

I volunteer to grade the oral for all the biological women....

like CP's, y'all's sig pics NEVER disappoint!!!

(04-26-2023 06:06 PM)blah Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 03:17 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 03:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-25-2023 02:46 PM)gdunn Wrote:  My mother in law still teaches classes online. She had papers due the other day and several had theirs generated by some kind of AI, how she knew I don't know, I didn't catch that.. She took it to the dean and he stated if she didn't put it in the syllabus at the beginning of the semester there's nothing they could do, but she wasn't the first to bring it up nor would she be the last. She spent about an hour the other day updating the syllabus for each of the classes.

I'd lobby for half written/ half oral to become the standard when meausuring the student...

plagiarism/work from others is relatively easy to sniff out ... of course, snuffing it out would be deemed racisss ...

Half oral could be rather labor intensive, but, you could have the oral part graded by the chatbot. :)

I volunteer to grade the oral for all the biological women....

I'll assist.