(04-16-2023 09:20 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(04-16-2023 09:14 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  The market isn’t an issue at all for UNLV. If UNLV had a strong performing athletic department with the right academic profile, they’d be a shoe-in for a P5 conference with their market. If anything, the Las Vegas market is the only reason why UNLV gets discussed at all.

The problem is that they haven’t been a high performing athletic department and their academics don’t work for at least the Pac-12. Whether the market potential is large enough for a league like the Big 12 consider them is the real question.

This article is literally the first place I've ever seen UNLV discussed as a power candidate, except possibly from DavidSt.

The only thing that's halfway notably about this article is that the author apparently thinks it's even worth writing an article about UNLV as a power candidate.

UNLV is a joke to become a P5 candidate. Just like Arizona and Colorado as a joke to be a Big 12 candidates.

(04-17-2023 04:41 AM)AztecNation Wrote:  If UNLV had UNR's football program they would be the #2 expansion option along with SDSU. Instead their football program is so bad they make Rice look like a great addition in comparison.

Plus, UNLV lost to North Carolina A&T in football as well.

(04-17-2023 11:30 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(04-16-2023 08:00 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-16-2023 07:06 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  It always surprises me how much people consider Las Vegas’s market to be a positive. It’s #40. That’s not great.

Eh - the TV market household metric for whatever reason seems to understate the size of the Las Vegas market compared to others. When looking at actual metro population sizes, Vegas is top 30 and one of the fastest-growing. It’s already larger than places like Cincinnati, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Nashville, Milwaukee, and New Orleans, which are all markets with multiple pro sports teams. It’s also larger than Salt Lake City, Memphis, Jacksonville, Raleigh-Durham, Oklahoma City and Louisville, all of whom are strongholds for multiple P5 schools.

Las Vegas and San Diego are the two largest markets that don’t have a clear P5 school tie-in, so Vegas actually is a big-time P5 gap that needs to be filled. (Plus, the underbelly is that gambling money is becoming more critical than everyone in sports, whether it’s driving TV ratings to capturing the younger generation that doesn’t buy tickets to games like prior generations but gambles a LOT more on sports compared to those prior generations. This makes Vegas a particularly strategic market in the way that NYC and LA are disproportionately important to media companies.)

Many city's ostensible TV markets include more area than what most people would really consider to be the metro area. Washington DC's TV market extends into some extreme exurbs in West Virginia, for example.

The Las Vegas area is completely surrounded by desert, so they can't include any extreme exurbs in the Las Vegas TV market like they can in other cities. It's really more an issue of other city's TV market being considered too big than Las Vegas' tv market being considered too small.

Boise's media market is in more tv homes than what networks think through rabbit ears thanks to cable.

(04-17-2023 04:56 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-17-2023 11:30 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(04-16-2023 08:00 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-16-2023 07:06 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  It always surprises me how much people consider Las Vegas’s market to be a positive. It’s #40. That’s not great.

Eh - the TV market household metric for whatever reason seems to understate the size of the Las Vegas market compared to others. When looking at actual metro population sizes, Vegas is top 30 and one of the fastest-growing. It’s already larger than places like Cincinnati, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Nashville, Milwaukee, and New Orleans, which are all markets with multiple pro sports teams. It’s also larger than Salt Lake City, Memphis, Jacksonville, Raleigh-Durham, Oklahoma City and Louisville, all of whom are strongholds for multiple P5 schools.

Las Vegas and San Diego are the two largest markets that don’t have a clear P5 school tie-in, so Vegas actually is a big-time P5 gap that needs to be filled. (Plus, the underbelly is that gambling money is becoming more critical than everyone in sports, whether it’s driving TV ratings to capturing the younger generation that doesn’t buy tickets to games like prior generations but gambles a LOT more on sports compared to those prior generations. This makes Vegas a particularly strategic market in the way that NYC and LA are disproportionately important to media companies.)

Many city's ostensible TV markets include more area than what most people would really consider to be the metro area. Washington DC's TV market extends into some extreme exurbs in West Virginia, for example.

The Las Vegas area is completely surrounded by desert, so they can't include any extreme exurbs in the Las Vegas TV market like they can in other cities. It's really more an issue of other city's TV market being considered too big than Las Vegas' tv market being considered too small.

Boise's media market is in more tv homes than what networks think through rabbit ears thanks to cable.

Boise’s media market extends to Russellville, AR.

(04-17-2023 04:56 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(04-17-2023 11:30 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(04-16-2023 08:00 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  

(04-16-2023 07:06 PM)jrj84105 Wrote:  It always surprises me how much people consider Las Vegas’s market to be a positive. It’s #40. That’s not great.

Eh - the TV market household metric for whatever reason seems to understate the size of the Las Vegas market compared to others. When looking at actual metro population sizes, Vegas is top 30 and one of the fastest-growing. It’s already larger than places like Cincinnati, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Nashville, Milwaukee, and New Orleans, which are all markets with multiple pro sports teams. It’s also larger than Salt Lake City, Memphis, Jacksonville, Raleigh-Durham, Oklahoma City and Louisville, all of whom are strongholds for multiple P5 schools.

Las Vegas and San Diego are the two largest markets that don’t have a clear P5 school tie-in, so Vegas actually is a big-time P5 gap that needs to be filled. (Plus, the underbelly is that gambling money is becoming more critical than everyone in sports, whether it’s driving TV ratings to capturing the younger generation that doesn’t buy tickets to games like prior generations but gambles a LOT more on sports compared to those prior generations. This makes Vegas a particularly strategic market in the way that NYC and LA are disproportionately important to media companies.)

Many city's ostensible TV markets include more area than what most people would really consider to be the metro area. Washington DC's TV market extends into some extreme exurbs in West Virginia, for example.

The Las Vegas area is completely surrounded by desert, so they can't include any extreme exurbs in the Las Vegas TV market like they can in other cities. It's really more an issue of other city's TV market being considered too big than Las Vegas' tv market being considered too small.

Boise's media market is in more tv homes than what networks think through rabbit ears thanks to cable.

Ahhhhh here’s the joke.