(04-10-2023 10:47 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(04-10-2023 10:15 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  So what channel are they on in that case?

Depends on the city, just like NBC or Fox or CBS. Channel 2 in Denver, 59 in Fresno, 33 in Las Vegas, 5 in Los Angeles, 32 in Portland, 31 in Sacramento, 30 in Salt Lake City, 44 in San Francisco, 11 in Seattle, 22 in Spokane, 58 in Tuscon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Th...es_(table)

In some PAC markets it's on a digital subchannel. 8.2 in San Diego is the big one. I noticed 6.2 in Eugene, 10.2 in Medford, some others

San Diego is one of the CW stations who "noped" out of LIV golf coverage, they broadcasted the golf tournament on a different OTA independent station in San Diego (Channel 51). If the CW does go heavier on sports, maybe they flip from the subchannel to a big-boy OTA channel.

Quote:Are they only available through select cable subscriptions? Do most cable subscriptions in those areas offer CW? If that's the case, then it shouldn't be an issue. Monty got us on this one...h

No, its just TV. Low-audience minor-network TV. They had a bunch of teen dramas, DC superhero shows, DC superhero teen dramas, plus cheap improv and comedy shows. They're going in a different direction, because those DC and teen dramas do great on streaming but not-so-great on advertising-supported live TV. the old CW owners (CBS Paramount and Warner Bros ) didn't care, because they made their money selling the shows to Netflix and internationally after they had enough episodes made for CW to broadcast.

Nexstar owns a bunch of US TV stations, including a lot of CW stations, so they basically bought it (75% ownership) from Paramount and WBD for nothing.

Here in Arkansas, Nexstar owns KARK NBC channel 4.
The sister stations are?
KARZ channel 42 which used to be either UPN or WB affiliate.
KLRT-TV FOX 16 out of Little Rock.
KASN 38 which is the CW out of Pine Bluff.

KARK 32.4 LAFF
KARK 32.5 Grit
KARK 32.6 Antenna TV

KLRT TV 30.4 ION Mystery

KASN HD 34.3 CW
KASN TV 34.4 Rewind
KASN TV 34.5 Ion
KASN TV 34.6 Defy TV
KASN TV 34.7 Grit

KLRT 28.5001 MyNetwork
KLRT 30.5 MyNetwork
KLRT 30.6 Bounce

Monty must have found a sugar momma to allow him to keep his sports journalist fantasy alive years after he became unemployable in the field.

The issue with CW is not that they don't have stations, as they do in every major and nearly all minor metros, it's the cross promotional issue. CW would be an island, which you won't hear about on other channels; no NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC/ESPN channels and other sports promoting Pac-12 games, even as overflow, with ESPN taking a game or two a week.

Monty also didn't help himself when he did "breaking news" on a Ja Morant incident that happened last year.

The Monty Show guys are dopes, period. They make up a new story everyday. There is not THAT much news on the Pac 12 where some catastrophic event happens every single day. Those guys are trash.

(04-10-2023 02:07 PM)BruinNation Wrote:  The Monty Show guys are dopes, period. They make up a new story everyday. There is not THAT much news on the Pac 12 where some catastrophic event happens every single day. Those guys are trash.

Oh, and I noticed that a certain someone in another thread (DavidSt) failed to mention that Houston has a CW affiliate that's OTA. KIAH CW39 is owned by Nexstar and Tribune Media Group.

In the El Paso area the CW or whatever it was called back then used to show an early ACCN game. Nowadays they show some NMSU FB games and Locomotive soccer.

(04-10-2023 02:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The issue with CW is not that they don't have stations, as they do in every major and nearly all minor metros, it's the cross promotional issue. CW would be an island, which you won't hear about on other channels; no NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC/ESPN channels and other sports promoting Pac-12 games, even as overflow, with ESPN taking a game or two a week.

IF any of them had any interest in the PAC 12, the nickel-and-dime CW wouldn't be in the conversation. But they're not, so the CW's offer (my guess) of "you can be on television, we'll split the commercial time 50-50" may be the best the PAC (and Apple) can do.

(04-10-2023 02:06 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The issue with CW is not that they don't have stations, as they do in every major and nearly all minor metros, it's the cross promotional issue. CW would be an island, which you won't hear about on other channels; no NBC, CBS, Fox, ABC/ESPN channels and other sports promoting Pac-12 games, even as overflow, with ESPN taking a game or two a week.

Welcome to the world of midmajor athletics. This will be the story for anybody outside the P2 once they consolidate their ACC targets.


This is why I still like the PAC as a midmajor. At least the PAC has the production capacity for even the CW/Ion tier to be a possibility. Otherwise it’s straight to streaming with whomever is willing to produce your content. Absolutely no leverage in that scenario.

(04-10-2023 02:07 PM)BruinNation Wrote:  The Monty Show guys are dopes, period. They make up a new story everyday. There is not THAT much news on the Pac 12 where some catastrophic event happens every single day. Those guys are trash.

Tony Altimore once tweeted that the Monty guys stole his data slides, cropped his name off…only to misuse the data because they misunderstood it.

Th Monty show is the radio and podcast version of MHV3r. Absolute crap.

I bet $1 that The CW rebrands their station to some name that's in the vein of CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, or FOX. Broadcast TV doesn't need to be anything that's not a live event/sports/news anymore, all TV Shows/Movies can be streamed. With Starlink and Kuiper, everyone will have access to enough bandwidth to just on-demand what they want to watch.

Bonus bet, $1 that The CW (or other more local broadcasters like ION) become the home for regional sports rights for all non-NFL leagues.

Guys I think you are being to harsh. Monty said Nexstar who owns some of CW stations is in on the deal. Nexstar only operates a handful of CW Stations. Currently the Arizona & Seattle CW is operated by Sinclair I think.

CW is in 98% of America footprint via multiple Operational agreements
Nexstar Media Group.
Sinclair Broadcast Group.
New Age Media and Sinclair Broadcast Group.
Heritage Broadcasting Group.
Morgan Murphy Media.
Marianas Media.
Journal Communications.
Gray Television.
Pappas Telecasting.
Block Communications.
Quincy Media.
Bay City Television.
News-Press & Gazette Company.

Link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...es_(table)

In his podcast he mentions that this deal if true would be like a RSN. So Seattle and Arizona CW and other non Nexstar stations would be able to pay a fee to broadcast??? I think I understand it correctly.

(04-10-2023 03:18 PM)SouthEastAlaska Wrote:  Th Monty show is the radio and podcast version of MHV3r. Absolute crap.

...they are truly the 'real-life' personification of Beavis and Butt-Head... a show so goofy, but you still find yourself (sometimes) watching it, wondering WHY - I typically run over the first 10 minutes of their YT after it is 'recorded', at increased speed - typically not much there... after about 10 minutes in, they resort to sophomoric stuff like frat dudes...

...for example, today (right this second) their headline is "We know who is leaving the PAC first"... um... yeah. UPDATE - N.Y. Post is noting Colorado MAY be first to move...

(04-10-2023 03:49 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Guys I think you are being to harsh. Monty said Nexstar who owns some of CW stations is in on the deal. Nexstar only operates a handful of CW Stations. Currently the Arizona & Seattle CW is operated by Sinclair I think.

CW is in 98% of America footprint via multiple Operational agreements
Nexstar Media Group.
Sinclair Broadcast Group.
New Age Media and Sinclair Broadcast Group.
Heritage Broadcasting Group.
Morgan Murphy Media.
Marianas Media.
Journal Communications.
Gray Television.
Pappas Telecasting.
Block Communications.
Quincy Media.
Bay City Television.
News-Press & Gazette Company.

Link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...es_(table)

In his podcast he mentions that this deal if true would be like a RSN. So Seattle and Arizona CW and other non Nexstar stations would be able to pay a fee to broadcast??? I think I understand it correctly.

So CW is negotiating or NextStar? My understanding then would be that Sinclair would be owed a % for PAC games airing on the CW, but I can't imagine I'd be a huge %. Still eats the bottom line where every million counts.

(04-10-2023 03:49 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Guys I think you are being to harsh. Monty said Nexstar who owns some of CW stations is in on the deal. Nexstar only operates a handful of CW Stations. Currently the Arizona & Seattle CW is operated by Sinclair I think.

CW is in 98% of America footprint via multiple Operational agreements
Nexstar Media Group.
Sinclair Broadcast Group.
New Age Media and Sinclair Broadcast Group.
Heritage Broadcasting Group.
Morgan Murphy Media.
Marianas Media.
Journal Communications.
Gray Television.
Pappas Telecasting.
Block Communications.
Quincy Media.
Bay City Television.
News-Press & Gazette Company.

Link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...es_(table)

In his podcast he mentions that this deal if true would be like a RSN. So Seattle and Arizona CW and other non Nexstar stations would be able to pay a fee to broadcast??? I think I understand it correctly.

Nexstar Media Group has a 75% ownership stake in The CW. That does not mean they only own 75% of the stations, it means they are the majority shareholder of the entire set of stations that exist.

The other 25% is split equally between Paramount and Warner Bros.

This is a recent change, in 2022, and they mentioned they wanted to:

Quote:In the conference call, Nexstar indicated that it wanted to convert The CW into a network with broad appeal. It cited data indicating that the young audience which The CW focused upon preferred watching its shows through streaming platforms instead of during live broadcasts, while the average audience of a broadcast CW affiliate was approximately 58 years old. Nexstar indicated that it would focus on the older audiences as well and not just the younger demographic.

This is the first year of the new ownership, and the first year they're getting into sports broadcasting. Getting the PAC deal is a way to get in on some potentially nationally relevant broadcasting without needing to throw all their money away. So this move seems logical, and the Monty Show once again doesn't know what they're talking about.

(04-10-2023 04:28 PM)e-parade Wrote:  

(04-10-2023 03:49 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  Guys I think you are being to harsh. Monty said Nexstar who owns some of CW stations is in on the deal. Nexstar only operates a handful of CW Stations. Currently the Arizona & Seattle CW is operated by Sinclair I think.

CW is in 98% of America footprint via multiple Operational agreements
Nexstar Media Group.
Sinclair Broadcast Group.
New Age Media and Sinclair Broadcast Group.
Heritage Broadcasting Group.
Morgan Murphy Media.
Marianas Media.
Journal Communications.
Gray Television.
Pappas Telecasting.
Block Communications.
Quincy Media.
Bay City Television.
News-Press & Gazette Company.

Link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...es_(table)

In his podcast he mentions that this deal if true would be like a RSN. So Seattle and Arizona CW and other non Nexstar stations would be able to pay a fee to broadcast??? I think I understand it correctly.

Nexstar Media Group has a 75% ownership stake in The CW. That does not mean they only own 75% of the stations, it means they are the majority shareholder of the entire set of stations that exist.

The other 25% is split equally between Paramount and Warner Bros.

This is a recent change, in 2022, and they mentioned they wanted to:

Quote:In the conference call, Nexstar indicated that it wanted to convert The CW into a network with broad appeal. It cited data indicating that the young audience which The CW focused upon preferred watching its shows through streaming platforms instead of during live broadcasts, while the average audience of a broadcast CW affiliate was approximately 58 years old. Nexstar indicated that it would focus on the older audiences as well and not just the younger demographic.

This is the first year of the new ownership, and the first year they're getting into sports broadcasting. Getting the PAC deal is a way to get in on some potentially nationally relevant broadcasting without needing to throw all their money away. So this move seems logical, and the Monty Show once again doesn't know what they're talking about.

(04-10-2023 03:35 PM)BeepBeepJeep Wrote:  I bet $1 that The CW rebrands their station to some name that's in the vein of CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, or FOX. Broadcast TV doesn't need to be anything that's not a live event/sports/news anymore, all TV Shows/Movies can be streamed. With Starlink and Kuiper, everyone will have access to enough bandwidth to just on-demand what they want to watch.

Bonus bet, $1 that The CW (or other more local broadcasters like ION) become the home for regional sports rights for all non-NFL leagues.

I dunno, "CW" actually works well if you're getting into college sport. Was thinking about this comment a bit and thought "what if they just do "CW Sports for when they're airing that content?"

Can just make it stand for "The College World Sports" or "College Wide Sports" or something.

From the Athletic

Media column: Ranking the Bay Area's five worst sports talk radio shows of all-time

5. The Monty Show (95.7, 810 & 680 – 2011-13): Tim Montemayor bounced around Sacramento and the Bay Area for a while, then he moved to Utah in 2013 and became a program director and host at 1320 KFAN, and now it appears that he's podcasting. Not quite the hosting trajectory one usually hopes to follow, but hopefully he's happy where he is.

Montemayor wasn't a bad guy, but his style (more pregnant pauses than Bruce and Jim Rome put together), along with a penchant for throwing out hot takes blatantly meant to troll that were easily debunked with just a second or two of critical thought, made him one of the toughest listens in KNBR history whenever he appeared. I never checked into KGO for his political takes, but those must have been amazing as well. If you're looking for a positive … at least he was a fill-in guy who was bad enough to be memorable?

All the guy did in his two-ish years before getting canned in the SLC market was to troll BYU and Utah fans with made up stuff. That was the entirety of his coverage. He is a troll not a sports journalist.