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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
NCAA tournament is where college players make their name and raise their draft stock, no one cares about the regular season.
While 90 percent of college football bowls are glorified scrimmages. (Has any player opted out of the playoffs before?)
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
FYI, this guy is from France.
He's probably looking at playing in a European pro league, not the NBA.
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03-14-2023 10:23 AM |
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-13-2023 08:41 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Yohan Traore of Auburn is opting out of the NCAA Tournament to focus on his pro prospects. Do you think we will see a new wave of players opt out of the Tournament to focus on their future career?
I can see a guy maybe opting out if he has a huge make-or-break MCAT exam coming up and he knows he's not a major player anyway.
Other than that...a 2.2 ppg player opting out to focus on his pro prospects...???
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2023 11:38 AM by Chuck_A.)
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-13-2023 08:59 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote: It's possible but basketball just isn't as detrimental as football.
But I will give you all a prediction. Due to the 12 team, soon to be 64 team CFB Playoff, I think you will start to see players opt out of around half the regular season games.
Ex: In a 12 team playoff, there is absolutely no reason for Stroud to play more than 6 games. He would cherry pick the big games and sit the rest. I think this is an 100% certainty and something you've all brought upon yourselves. Of course the players will still think they deserve 100% of the money "earned" just like the NBAers.
And hope that the backup can win another 4 to get into the CFP? I don't see that happening.
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-14-2023 10:54 AM)TDenverFan Wrote: So the only source I've found is this twitter account:
https://twitter.com/conway__vinny/status...4618479616
Scrolling through their other tweets, they mostly seem to be a troll account, and absolutely are not Auburn insiders.
A different (albeit also unverified) account refuted the post:
https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/statu...1619924993
I live in Auburn and haven't heard a word. He came from France, has some abilities which are still under development and so the story didn't hit me as false, or true, initially, just more like "well that's possible on a number of levels." That Alabama fans would start something like this as cover for what's going on in their program isn't out of the question either. You would have to live in Alabama to understand the depth of the divide. My sister was born near Christmas. She didn't get a Christmas present from me while at that other school, but I still gave her a very nice birthday present every year. Both gestures were noted. When I lived on the East Coast there was a chemical plant manager who would call me for a lunch meeting the Friday before the Iron Bowl. Even though Mike was a Tide fan he said I was the only one he knew of in that location who understood the importance of the event. When I don't respond directly to the content of these kinds of messages it's just because of decades of hooey spread by both sides before big events.
I do believe as I stated in a post previously in this thread that all fans may wind up actually liking the fringe benefits for pay for play. Contracts will eliminate a lot of the nonsense of the transfer portal, which is rotten for college sports, and for the athletes in some instances. College fans buy into kids they think want to play for their alma mater. They despise the transfer portal because it shatters the illusion of love for the school and its people. And many kids who do transfer are running from discipline issues, or are short circuiting the development of their playing skills by doing so. It helps some talented QB's who are locked in the depth chart below an obvious star. I completely get those! But mostly it just drains your roster of solid second string performers and the necessary depth to get through a season with consistent talent.
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2023 01:29 PM by JRsec.)
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-14-2023 01:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: (03-14-2023 10:54 AM)TDenverFan Wrote: So the only source I've found is this twitter account:
https://twitter.com/conway__vinny/status...4618479616
Scrolling through their other tweets, they mostly seem to be a troll account, and absolutely are not Auburn insiders.
A different (albeit also unverified) account refuted the post:
https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/statu...1619924993
I live in Auburn and haven't heard a word. He came from France, has some abilities which are still under development and so the story didn't hit me as false, or true, initially, just more like "well that's possible on a number of levels." That Alabama fans would start something like this as cover for what's going on in their program isn't out of the question either. You would have to live in Alabama to understand the depth of the divide. My sister was born near Christmas. She didn't get a Christmas present from me while at that other school, but I still gave her a very nice birthday present every year. Both gestures were noted. When I lived on the East Coast there was a chemical plant manager who would call me for a lunch meeting the Friday before the Iron Bowl. Even though Mike was a Tide fan he said I was the only one he knew of in that location who understood the importance of the event. When I don't respond directly to the content of these kinds of messages it's just because of decades of hooey spread by both sides before big events.
I do believe as I stated in a post previously in this thread that all fans may wind up actually liking the fringe benefits for pay for play. Contracts will eliminate a lot of the nonsense of the transfer portal, which is rotten for college sports, and for the athletes in some instances. College fans buy into kids they think want to play for their alma mater. They despise the transfer portal because it shatters the illusion of love for the school and its people. And many kids who do transfer are running from discipline issues, or are short circuiting the development of their playing skills by doing so. It helps some talented QB's who are locked in the depth chart below an obvious star. I completely get those! But mostly it just drains your roster of solid second string performers and the necessary depth to get through a season with consistent talent.
The entire pre-season #1 team opted out of the NIT. And, effectively, the Tournament too.
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03-14-2023 06:27 PM |
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JRsec
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-14-2023 06:27 PM)IWantToTalkToRalphSampson Wrote: (03-14-2023 01:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: (03-14-2023 10:54 AM)TDenverFan Wrote: So the only source I've found is this twitter account:
https://twitter.com/conway__vinny/status...4618479616
Scrolling through their other tweets, they mostly seem to be a troll account, and absolutely are not Auburn insiders.
A different (albeit also unverified) account refuted the post:
https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/statu...1619924993
I live in Auburn and haven't heard a word. He came from France, has some abilities which are still under development and so the story didn't hit me as false, or true, initially, just more like "well that's possible on a number of levels." That Alabama fans would start something like this as cover for what's going on in their program isn't out of the question either. You would have to live in Alabama to understand the depth of the divide. My sister was born near Christmas. She didn't get a Christmas present from me while at that other school, but I still gave her a very nice birthday present every year. Both gestures were noted. When I lived on the East Coast there was a chemical plant manager who would call me for a lunch meeting the Friday before the Iron Bowl. Even though Mike was a Tide fan he said I was the only one he knew of in that location who understood the importance of the event. When I don't respond directly to the content of these kinds of messages it's just because of decades of hooey spread by both sides before big events.
I do believe as I stated in a post previously in this thread that all fans may wind up actually liking the fringe benefits for pay for play. Contracts will eliminate a lot of the nonsense of the transfer portal, which is rotten for college sports, and for the athletes in some instances. College fans buy into kids they think want to play for their alma mater. They despise the transfer portal because it shatters the illusion of love for the school and its people. And many kids who do transfer are running from discipline issues, or are short circuiting the development of their playing skills by doing so. It helps some talented QB's who are locked in the depth chart below an obvious star. I completely get those! But mostly it just drains your roster of solid second string performers and the necessary depth to get through a season with consistent talent.
The entire pre-season #1 team opted out of the NIT. And, effectively, the Tournament too.
We have a plethora of motives to search through there and more than one can apply. It wasn't worth it monetarily, it wasn't worth taking another hit to their pride, they didn't want to risk injury for a lesser tourney, etc. etc.
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03-14-2023 06:37 PM |
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-14-2023 12:52 AM)CardinalJim Wrote: A decade ago I doubt many foresaw players opting out of bowl games to begin preparing for the NFL draft in the numbers we’re seeing now. It only stands to reason that the same thing could happen in basketball. We’re already talking about players getting paid.
The next logical step is workers comp insurance. What’s workers comp insurance going to cost for a guy who’s slotted into a lottery spot in the NBA draft? What’s it going to cost after a guy has played 30 regular season games then goes to play another 6 games?
Don’t be surprised if guys start walking away from conference tournaments and the NCAA tournament. If a guy knows he’s going to be a lottery pick, why risk injury.
If it’s a business, its a business all the way. Half measures get you hurt and cost you money, perhaps a career.
Football players only opt out of bowl games when their team is out of the CFP and they can’t improve their stock. A mass wave of basketball players opting out is extremely unlikely bc they all have a chance to win a title, and success in the NCAAT will improve most players stock considerably. Also, a lottery pick opting out of the NCAAT would cause people to question his heart and attitude, possibly hurting his draft stock.
Could players with rd 1 grades and fairly serious, nagging injuries miss a bit for NCAAT games? Sure, that’s possible. But a 2 pt a game freshman who hasn’t been in a game for 2 months can’t really opt out of anything, his coach already did it for him.
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-14-2023 06:37 PM)JRsec Wrote: (03-14-2023 06:27 PM)IWantToTalkToRalphSampson Wrote: (03-14-2023 01:27 PM)JRsec Wrote: (03-14-2023 10:54 AM)TDenverFan Wrote: So the only source I've found is this twitter account:
https://twitter.com/conway__vinny/status...4618479616
Scrolling through their other tweets, they mostly seem to be a troll account, and absolutely are not Auburn insiders.
A different (albeit also unverified) account refuted the post:
https://twitter.com/Andrew__Slater/statu...1619924993
I live in Auburn and haven't heard a word. He came from France, has some abilities which are still under development and so the story didn't hit me as false, or true, initially, just more like "well that's possible on a number of levels." That Alabama fans would start something like this as cover for what's going on in their program isn't out of the question either. You would have to live in Alabama to understand the depth of the divide. My sister was born near Christmas. She didn't get a Christmas present from me while at that other school, but I still gave her a very nice birthday present every year. Both gestures were noted. When I lived on the East Coast there was a chemical plant manager who would call me for a lunch meeting the Friday before the Iron Bowl. Even though Mike was a Tide fan he said I was the only one he knew of in that location who understood the importance of the event. When I don't respond directly to the content of these kinds of messages it's just because of decades of hooey spread by both sides before big events.
I do believe as I stated in a post previously in this thread that all fans may wind up actually liking the fringe benefits for pay for play. Contracts will eliminate a lot of the nonsense of the transfer portal, which is rotten for college sports, and for the athletes in some instances. College fans buy into kids they think want to play for their alma mater. They despise the transfer portal because it shatters the illusion of love for the school and its people. And many kids who do transfer are running from discipline issues, or are short circuiting the development of their playing skills by doing so. It helps some talented QB's who are locked in the depth chart below an obvious star. I completely get those! But mostly it just drains your roster of solid second string performers and the necessary depth to get through a season with consistent talent.
The entire pre-season #1 team opted out of the NIT. And, effectively, the Tournament too.
We have a plethora of motives to search through there and more than one can apply. It wasn't worth it monetarily, it wasn't worth taking another hit to their pride, they didn't want to risk injury for a lesser tourney, etc. etc.
Oh know, I’m just being snarky. I’m honestly glad they turned it down as it lets another school who wants to be there participate, especially since the CIT isn’t being played this year (I think).
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-14-2023 09:58 AM)ccbfan Wrote: NCAA tournament is where college players make their name and raise their draft stock, no one cares about the regular season.
While 90 percent of college football bowls are glorified scrimmages. (Has any player opted out of the playoffs before?)
What a bunch of lies.
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2023 08:32 PM by PicksUp.)
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-13-2023 08:41 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Yohan Traore of Auburn is opting out of the NCAA Tournament to focus on his pro prospects. Do you think we will see a new wave of players opt out of the Tournament to focus on their future career?
Traore played in the first half of today's Auburn vs Iowa Tournament game.
Sources really need to be checked before threads are started on a topic.
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RE: Wave of the future? Opting out of the NCAA Tournament
(03-16-2023 06:56 PM)JRsec Wrote: (03-13-2023 08:41 PM)_C2_ Wrote: Yohan Traore of Auburn is opting out of the NCAA Tournament to focus on his pro prospects. Do you think we will see a new wave of players opt out of the Tournament to focus on their future career?
Traore played in the first half of today's Auburn vs Iowa Tournament game.
Sources really need to be checked before threads are started on a topic.
This.
Time to lock this thread as it was started on incorrect information
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