(05-09-2023 05:10 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:58 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:32 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  GT's undergraduate focus is the same as it's graduate research focus. Therefore they widget stamp "Helluva Engineers" out of all who enter. It's a STEM way of seeing the world. In the STEM world right and wrong exist and wrong is to be crushed by rigorous math and calculations.

https://catalog.gatech.edu/academics/und...um/ethics/

That seems like an awful lot of ethics courses for your average engineer. How many does your average engineer have to take to graduate?

VT and State College do not produce "average engineers".

That said - NC State and VT are cow colleges and that means the Land Grant and Extension Services are embedded. My observation is that produces a different type of engineer all across the board. There is an acquiescence to practicality at the Land Grant that can be pushed down at GT, MIT, etc., etc.

The need to teach larger scale ethics to these people is a result of the collapse of many elements of civic and religious life that taught community over self. Sometimes really technical people become parallelized choosing between bad choices when a choose must be made.

As a failed Architect/Engineer (differential equations), I emphatic with this breed but you need two bridles on a good engineer or architect.

I realize that I am replying to an old post, but SouthernConfBoy, how would you rank VT's & NC State's engineers in comparison to Auburn's??? Doesn't Auburn have a similar mission/similar standards to VT & NC State??

(02-26-2023 08:35 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  The following schools have their main campus inside a real city (min 250K):

Miami, BC, Cincy, MSU, Minn, Pitt, GT, Tulane, Ohio Sate, UT, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Texas, Houston, TCU, NC State, Vandy, Wake Forest, and Arizona State.

The following schools are in bum foozle no where:

Penn State, VT, UVa, Bama, Auburn, Oregon State, Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas, Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas State, Washington State, and Oklahoma State.

Small city school bigger than college town, smaller than a real city:

Duke, FSU, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Baylor, Arizona, Kentucky, LSU

College town that is really an appendage to a next door city - UNC, UGa, Northwestern, MD, Stanford,

Most people don't think about the fact that Ohio State is located in a large US City. They usually associate the name of the city and a university if they one and the same.


Now before someone is insulted - what is bum foozle? Well that is a euphemism for the middle of nowhere. Often the college in bum foozle is a land grant located near a large scientific farm site. These are places where diverse industry and employment didn't really exist before the 1970's or it had to be brought in by the university. These are places where you make a conscious decision to buy gasoline as you leave town.

Once again You feel Louisville doesn’t exist ! 750 K strong and the University is in the center of the County easily accessed by several interstates

(06-14-2023 05:43 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 05:10 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:58 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:32 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  GT's undergraduate focus is the same as it's graduate research focus. Therefore they widget stamp "Helluva Engineers" out of all who enter. It's a STEM way of seeing the world. In the STEM world right and wrong exist and wrong is to be crushed by rigorous math and calculations.

https://catalog.gatech.edu/academics/und...um/ethics/

That seems like an awful lot of ethics courses for your average engineer. How many does your average engineer have to take to graduate?

VT and State College do not produce "average engineers".

That said - NC State and VT are cow colleges and that means the Land Grant and Extension Services are embedded. My observation is that produces a different type of engineer all across the board. There is an acquiescence to practicality at the Land Grant that can be pushed down at GT, MIT, etc., etc.

The need to teach larger scale ethics to these people is a result of the collapse of many elements of civic and religious life that taught community over self. Sometimes really technical people become parallelized choosing between bad choices when a choose must be made.

As a failed Architect/Engineer (differential equations), I emphatic with this breed but you need two bridles on a good engineer or architect.

I realize that I am replying to an old post, but SouthernConfBoy, how would you rank VT's & NC State's engineers in comparison to Auburn's??? Doesn't Auburn have a similar mission/similar standards to VT & NC State??

Auburn, Pitt, and UF all come in around 45-55 in most measures of academics related to Engineering.

Auburn in particular is dinged by its proximate location to GT and that fact that Redstone and Huntsville is located up north instead of southeast. GT is a top 5 program. Huntsville is top 75 (so is Clemson).

Duke, NC State, and VT are top 20-30 engineering schools. UVa is about 35-40.

Research specialties and history help to define what exists today. If you have or had a nuclear reactor for instance, if you do work for DARPA, or if you are in a growing state that needs bridges and complicated piping and pumping systems for water, sewer, etc.

NC State is held back a little by direct competition with Pratt at Duke. (Piss on you Duke and your Harry Potter cloak).

Clemson is where it is because Clemson was always small, rural, and male for most of its existence. No one was moving to western SC to research a damn thing until a decade after the Germans and BMW said it was okay. But the State of SC remains small and if you can get into GT, or MIT, or Cal Tech, that is where you are going even if you are a Sandlapper. Likewise, if you can get into GT and you were born in eastern Alabama, Atlanta was likely your defacto cultural capital anyway. If you get lucky you might meet a girl in Med school at Emory or be able to impress a coed down at Mercer.

I've known just one Auburn engineer in my entire life, and they were attached to industry in Sylcauga.

I find most people mean Civil Engineering when they just say Engineering. Even that breeds specialties - folks who work at the Beach, who work on "Sugar" sands, who work in hard rock mountains, who work in the Clay holes, etc.

I would think Tim Cook of Apple is Auburn's highest profile grad, but then Duke got a hold of him. I can't determine if he really was an EE, ME, or CE as if any of that matters.

(06-14-2023 07:51 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2023 08:35 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  The following schools have their main campus inside a real city (min 250K):

Miami, BC, Cincy, MSU, Minn, Pitt, GT, Tulane, Ohio Sate, UT, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Texas, Houston, TCU, NC State, Vandy, Wake Forest, and Arizona State.

The following schools are in bum foozle no where:

Penn State, VT, UVa, Bama, Auburn, Oregon State, Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas, Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas State, Washington State, and Oklahoma State.

Small city school bigger than college town, smaller than a real city:

Duke, FSU, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Baylor, Arizona, Kentucky, LSU

College town that is really an appendage to a next door city - UNC, UGa, Northwestern, MD, Stanford,

Most people don't think about the fact that Ohio State is located in a large US City. They usually associate the name of the city and a university if they one and the same.


Now before someone is insulted - what is bum foozle? Well that is a euphemism for the middle of nowhere. Often the college in bum foozle is a land grant located near a large scientific farm site. These are places where diverse industry and employment didn't really exist before the 1970's or it had to be brought in by the university. These are places where you make a conscious decision to buy gasoline as you leave town.

Once again You feel Louisville doesn’t exist ! 750 K strong and the University is in the center of the County easily accessed by several interstates

What "real" city, pray tell, is MSU located in?

Winston-Salem barely qualifies as a "major city" even by the arbitrary definition and Wake's campus is not in its urban core. No one would call it a city school. Tennessee...Knoxville is not a major city.

(06-15-2023 06:32 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  

(06-14-2023 05:43 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 05:10 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:58 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(05-09-2023 04:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  https://catalog.gatech.edu/academics/und...um/ethics/

That seems like an awful lot of ethics courses for your average engineer. How many does your average engineer have to take to graduate?

VT and State College do not produce "average engineers".

That said - NC State and VT are cow colleges and that means the Land Grant and Extension Services are embedded. My observation is that produces a different type of engineer all across the board. There is an acquiescence to practicality at the Land Grant that can be pushed down at GT, MIT, etc., etc.

The need to teach larger scale ethics to these people is a result of the collapse of many elements of civic and religious life that taught community over self. Sometimes really technical people become parallelized choosing between bad choices when a choose must be made.

As a failed Architect/Engineer (differential equations), I emphatic with this breed but you need two bridles on a good engineer or architect.

I realize that I am replying to an old post, but SouthernConfBoy, how would you rank VT's & NC State's engineers in comparison to Auburn's??? Doesn't Auburn have a similar mission/similar standards to VT & NC State??

Auburn, Pitt, and UF all come in around 45-55 in most measures of academics related to Engineering.

Auburn in particular is dinged by its proximate location to GT and that fact that Redstone and Huntsville is located up north instead of southeast. GT is a top 5 program. Huntsville is top 75 (so is Clemson).

Duke, NC State, and VT are top 20-30 engineering schools. UVa is about 35-40.

Research specialties and history help to define what exists today. If you have or had a nuclear reactor for instance, if you do work for DARPA, or if you are in a growing state that needs bridges and complicated piping and pumping systems for water, sewer, etc.

NC State is held back a little by direct competition with Pratt at Duke. (Piss on you Duke and your Harry Potter cloak).

Clemson is where it is because Clemson was always small, rural, and male for most of its existence. No one was moving to western SC to research a damn thing until a decade after the Germans and BMW said it was okay. But the State of SC remains small and if you can get into GT, or MIT, or Cal Tech, that is where you are going even if you are a Sandlapper. Likewise, if you can get into GT and you were born in eastern Alabama, Atlanta was likely your defacto cultural capital anyway. If you get lucky you might meet a girl in Med school at Emory or be able to impress a coed down at Mercer.

I've known just one Auburn engineer in my entire life, and they were attached to industry in Sylcauga.

I find most people mean Civil Engineering when they just say Engineering. Even that breeds specialties - folks who work at the Beach, who work on "Sugar" sands, who work in hard rock mountains, who work in the Clay holes, etc.

I would think Tim Cook of Apple is Auburn's highest profile grad, but then Duke got a hold of him. I can't determine if he really was an EE, ME, or CE as if any of that matters.

Thank you, SouthernConfBoy, for answering my question.

(05-12-2023 11:48 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Let’s be honest here.

Georgia Tech is attempting to compete in college athletics in 2023 with a 1960’s philosophy. Not to mention doing it in the middle of football factories of The SEC.

My cousin is a retired administrator with Georgia Tech. She will tell you athletes at Georgia Tech are students first. She doesn’t think much of Georgia.

I admire their commitment to true college athletics.

Georgia Tech does it the right way.

Oh, my. You've definitely ingested the Georgia Tech myth the way GT fans like to tell it. The Little Engine That Could versus 'the factories' on every side. That's their favourite bedtime story. Especially on Saturday nights in the fall.

Read any GT board. GT never faces rival schools. It faces 'the football factories.' Amidst mighty industrial Goliaths round about, a valiant little Ivy wannabe holds out for 'doing things the right way.'

Losing? Hey, that's just proof of virtue.

Well, perhaps. But as long as we're being honest here... From where the real Ivy League stands, GT has looked like a football factory for years. Just not a very well-run factory.

The 'us-versus-the-factories' story is a comforting one for GT fans to recite when the home team disappoints (as it seems theirs often does). Now that GT is compensating players like everyone else, it will be interesting to see how long fans can suspend disbelief.

We're entering a semipro era now, Jackets. What's it going to be? Are you in, too? Are you out? What is the Georgia Tech program really?

Decide what you are and be that thing. No apologies, no baloney.

Once you've decided that, you may as well win.

(06-16-2023 02:29 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 11:48 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Let’s be honest here.

Georgia Tech is attempting to compete in college athletics in 2023 with a 1960’s philosophy. Not to mention doing it in the middle of football factories of The SEC.

My cousin is a retired administrator with Georgia Tech. She will tell you athletes at Georgia Tech are students first. She doesn’t think much of Georgia.

I admire their commitment to true college athletics.

Georgia Tech does it the right way.

Oh, my. You've definitely learned the Georgia Tech myth the way GT fans like to tell it. The Little Engine That Could versus 'the factories' on every side. That's their favourite bedtime story. Especially on Saturday nights in the fall.

Read any GT board. GT never faces rival schools. It faces 'the factories.' Against mighty industrial Goliaths round about, a valiant little Ivy wannabe holds out for 'doing things the right way.'

Losing? Hey, that's just proof of virtue.

Well, perhaps. But as long as we're being honest... From where the true Ivy League stands, GT has looked like a factory for years. Just not a very well-run factory.

The 'us-versus-the-factories' story is a comforting one for GT fans to recite when the home team disappoints (as it seems theirs often does). Now that GT has begun compensating players like everyone else, it will be interesting to see how long fans can suspend disbelief in it.

We're entering a semipro era now, Jackets. What's it going to be? Are you in, too? Are you out? What is the Georgia Tech program really?

Decide what you are and be that thing. No apologies, no baloney.

Once you've decided that, you may as well win.

I will drop this right hear:

http://www.winsipedia.com/florida-state/vs/georgia-tech

GT Football is not too far behind FSU Football. I think FSU leads the series 15-11-1. Just imagine if what you call for happens, WOW GT would surpass FSU! Do you really want to wakeup a sleeping giant?

(06-16-2023 02:29 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  We're entering a semipro era now, Jackets. What's it going to be? Are you in, too? Are you out? What is the Georgia Tech program really?

With NIL, I'm now all for going full on minor league. 99% of players have no desire to get a degree anyway. This should help GT more than many other schools. Don't get me wrong, I don't like what is happening and imo college football has lost some of its luster.

I've been a GT football season ticket holder for 23 years. A few years ago, I would have confidently said 100% sure I'll keep buying tickets for another 20 years. I probably still will but not as confident as before.

(06-14-2023 07:51 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2023 08:35 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  The following schools have their main campus inside a real city (min 250K):

Miami, BC, Cincy, MSU, Minn, Pitt, GT, Tulane, Ohio Sate, UT, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Texas, Houston, TCU, NC State, Vandy, Wake Forest, and Arizona State.

The following schools are in bum foozle no where:

Penn State, VT, UVa, Bama, Auburn, Oregon State, Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas, Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas State, Washington State, and Oklahoma State.

Small city school bigger than college town, smaller than a real city:

Duke, FSU, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Baylor, Arizona, Kentucky, LSU

College town that is really an appendage to a next door city - UNC, UGa, Northwestern, MD, Stanford,

Most people don't think about the fact that Ohio State is located in a large US City. They usually associate the name of the city and a university if they one and the same.


Now before someone is insulted - what is bum foozle? Well that is a euphemism for the middle of nowhere. Often the college in bum foozle is a land grant located near a large scientific farm site. These are places where diverse industry and employment didn't really exist before the 1970's or it had to be brought in by the university. These are places where you make a conscious decision to buy gasoline as you leave town.

Once again You feel Louisville doesn’t exist ! 750 K strong and the University is in the center of the County easily accessed by several interstates

Louisville is a city no doubt. I didn't try to enumerate all the cities in the US because when I put on my Urban Planning Tam all I ever get is a fight with people who have a very different internalized definition of "city".

(06-15-2023 07:43 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(06-14-2023 07:51 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-26-2023 08:35 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  The following schools have their main campus inside a real city (min 250K):

Miami, BC, Cincy, MSU, Minn, Pitt, GT, Tulane, Ohio Sate, UT, Utah, Washington, USC, UCLA, Texas, Houston, TCU, NC State, Vandy, Wake Forest, and Arizona State.

The following schools are in bum foozle no where:

Penn State, VT, UVa, Bama, Auburn, Oregon State, Ole Miss, MSU, Arkansas, Indiana, Purdue, Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas State, Washington State, and Oklahoma State.

Small city school bigger than college town, smaller than a real city:

Duke, FSU, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Baylor, Arizona, Kentucky, LSU

College town that is really an appendage to a next door city - UNC, UGa, Northwestern, MD, Stanford,

Most people don't think about the fact that Ohio State is located in a large US City. They usually associate the name of the city and a university if they one and the same.


Now before someone is insulted - what is bum foozle? Well that is a euphemism for the middle of nowhere. Often the college in bum foozle is a land grant located near a large scientific farm site. These are places where diverse industry and employment didn't really exist before the 1970's or it had to be brought in by the university. These are places where you make a conscious decision to buy gasoline as you leave town.

Once again You feel Louisville doesn’t exist ! 750 K strong and the University is in the center of the County easily accessed by several interstates

What "real" city, pray tell, is MSU located in?

Winston-Salem barely qualifies as a "major city" even by the arbitrary definition and Wake's campus is not in its urban core. No one would call it a city school. Tennessee...Knoxville is not a major city.

I thought the Lansing and East Lansing metro had about 450K people in it.

I used the unscientific term "real city". I did not use the term major city.

Holler out loud if you have a good one.

I come from the Urban Econ side of Political Economy and Urban Studies so I by education and training recognize a "city" or urban area based on rough bid/rent theory. Bid rent is that the value of property and economy is in the middle of things and the values drop the further from the center.

Bid/Rent theory is similar to planetary mechanics or the physics of stars and the planets in their orbit. The size of what's in the middle holds the smaller planets and a large planet or small star orbiting the main star can hold it's own neighborhood.

You can test it today by looking at commuting patterns.

You can look at an aerial map of the Lansing Metro and immediately you will see the old core of the community - the Oldsmobile Plant. My dad had three Oldsmobiles.

You have the State Capital, center of the Main Campus at MSU, and three major hospitals to go along with a small urban downtown in Lansing and something more akin auto oriented strip in East Lansing. The ring road of the interstates certainly consider Lansing, East Lansing and several other smaller communities to be one entity to be bypassed. To me this is a low-density City.

Now you Paco are influenced by the spatial constraints of Pittsburg. Those spatial constraints forced Pittsburgh to go up and prevent the easy development of suburban sprawl. San Francisco and New York City are great examples of this. Chicago is a great example that folks don't think about but greater Chicagoland shoots off to the west as it does because it could not grow east into Lake Michigan.

If I had to guess the economic center of Lansing and East Lansing is near to where the two touch at 127 and I-496.

It's certainly not bumfoozle.

(06-16-2023 08:11 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 02:29 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 11:48 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Let’s be honest here.

Georgia Tech is attempting to compete in college athletics in 2023 with a 1960’s philosophy. Not to mention doing it in the middle of football factories of The SEC.

My cousin is a retired administrator with Georgia Tech. She will tell you athletes at Georgia Tech are students first. She doesn’t think much of Georgia.

I admire their commitment to true college athletics.

Georgia Tech does it the right way.

Oh, my. You've definitely learned the Georgia Tech myth the way GT fans like to tell it. The Little Engine That Could versus 'the factories' on every side. That's their favourite bedtime story. Especially on Saturday nights in the fall.

Read any GT board. GT never faces rival schools. It faces 'the factories.' Against mighty industrial Goliaths round about, a valiant little Ivy wannabe holds out for 'doing things the right way.'

Losing? Hey, that's just proof of virtue.

Well, perhaps. But as long as we're being honest... From where the true Ivy League stands, GT has looked like a factory for years. Just not a very well-run factory.

The 'us-versus-the-factories' story is a comforting one for GT fans to recite when the home team disappoints (as it seems theirs often does). Now that GT has begun compensating players like everyone else, it will be interesting to see how long fans can suspend disbelief in it.

We're entering a semipro era now, Jackets. What's it going to be? Are you in, too? Are you out? What is the Georgia Tech program really?

Decide what you are and be that thing. No apologies, no baloney.

Once you've decided that, you may as well win.

I will drop this right hear:

http://www.winsipedia.com/florida-state/vs/georgia-tech

GT Football is not too far behind FSU Football. I think FSU leads the series 15-11-1. Just imagine if what you call for happens, WOW GT would surpass FSU! Do you really want to wakeup a sleeping giant?

No kidding!! And to just get a good taste of how GT is against the "factories," check this out, vs USC (the one in California, btw)

http://www.winsipedia.com/usc/vs/georgia-tech

(06-16-2023 04:01 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  You can look at an aerial map of the Lansing Metro and immediately you will see the old core of the community - the Oldsmobile Plant. My dad had three Oldsmobiles.

You have the State Capital, center of the Main Campus at MSU, and three major hospitals to go along with a small urban downtown in Lansing and something more akin auto oriented strip in East Lansing. The ring road of the interstates certainly consider Lansing, East Lansing and several other smaller communities to be one entity to be bypassed. To me this is a low-density City.

Now you Paco are influenced by the spatial constraints of Pittsburg. Those spatial constraints forced Pittsburgh to go up and prevent the easy development of suburban sprawl. San Francisco and New York City are great examples of this. Chicago is a great example that folks don't think about but greater Chicagoland shoots off to the west as it does because it could not grow east into Lake Michigan.

If I had to guess the economic center of Lansing and East Lansing is near to where the two touch at 127 and I-496.

It's certainly not bumfoozle.

Does Atlanta's urban sprawl go south or north??

Birmingham's seems to go south, IMO.

ATL is 360 degrees except for a small arc around the Chatahoochie sw of town. I think this is where the new raw water intake is supposed to go. If put Atlanta on a clock, it would the time segment between about 6:45 and 7:30.

Birmingham is squeezed between ridges somewhat like a smaller version of Pittsburgh. It's also the abandoned in place or still active massive iron related industry that affected property values by virtue of things like the prevailing winds.

I had some students take a xeroxed map of greater LA and told them to cut out the Santa Anna's, San Gabriel's and the Santa Monica mountains - if they did it right when you pull the sections together you get an oval shape instead of toothpaste squeezed out of tube.

Wouid recognizing GT as the 2009 ACC Champs make any difference in recruiting? I think a petition should be made to restore that, it was on BS grounds anyway.

(06-16-2023 08:11 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 02:29 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 11:48 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Let’s be honest here.

Georgia Tech is attempting to compete in college athletics in 2023 with a 1960’s philosophy. Not to mention doing it in the middle of football factories of The SEC.

My cousin is a retired administrator with Georgia Tech. She will tell you athletes at Georgia Tech are students first. She doesn’t think much of Georgia.

I admire their commitment to true college athletics.

Georgia Tech does it the right way.

Oh, my. You've definitely ingested the Georgia Tech myth the way GT fans like to tell it. The Little Engine That Could versus 'the factories' on every side. That's their favourite bedtime story. Especially on Saturday nights in the fall.

Read any GT board. GT never faces rival schools. It faces 'the football factories.' Amidst mighty industrial Goliaths round about, a valiant little Ivy wannabe holds out for 'doing things the right way.'

Losing? Hey, that's just proof of virtue.

Well, perhaps. But as long as we're being honest here... From where the real Ivy League stands, GT has looked like a football factory for years. Just not a very well-run factory.

The 'us-versus-the-factories' story is a comforting one for GT fans to recite when the home team disappoints (as it seems theirs often does). Now that GT is compensating players like everyone else, it will be interesting to see how long fans can suspend disbelief.

We're entering a semipro era now, Jackets. What's it going to be? Are you in, too? Are you out? What is the Georgia Tech program really?

Decide what you are and be that thing. No apologies, no baloney.

Once you've decided that, you may as well win.

I will drop this right hear (sic):

http://www.winsipedia.com/florida-state/vs/georgia-tech

GT Football is not too far behind FSU Football. I think FSU leads the series 15-11-1. Just imagine if what you call for happens, WOW GT would surpass FSU! Do you really want to wake up a sleeping giant?

GT is awake enough to make excuses. Is it awake enough to win?

(06-26-2023 03:07 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:11 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I will drop this right hear (sic):

http://www.winsipedia.com/florida-state/vs/georgia-tech

GT Football is not too far behind FSU Football. I think FSU leads the series 15-11-1. Just imagine if what you call for happens, WOW GT would surpass FSU! Do you really want to wake up a sleeping giant?

GT is awake enough to make excuses. Is it awake enough to win?

How long must sleep last before you call it a coma?

(06-26-2023 03:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-26-2023 03:07 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:11 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I will drop this right hear (sic):

http://www.winsipedia.com/florida-state/vs/georgia-tech

GT Football is not too far behind FSU Football. I think FSU leads the series 15-11-1. Just imagine if what you call for happens, WOW GT would surpass FSU! Do you really want to wake up a sleeping giant?

GT is awake enough to make excuses. Is it awake enough to win?

How long must sleep last before you call it a coma?

They're only 1 coach away from success. You would have to call Paul Johnson's tenure a success up until they changed the blocking rules.

(06-26-2023 03:56 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(06-26-2023 03:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-26-2023 03:07 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  

(06-16-2023 08:11 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I will drop this right hear (sic):

http://www.winsipedia.com/florida-state/vs/georgia-tech

GT Football is not too far behind FSU Football. I think FSU leads the series 15-11-1. Just imagine if what you call for happens, WOW GT would surpass FSU! Do you really want to wake up a sleeping giant?

GT is awake enough to make excuses. Is it awake enough to win?

How long must sleep last before you call it a coma?

They're only 1 coach away from success. You would have to call Paul Johnson's tenure a success up until they changed the blocking rules.

Very possible. Of course, today the Jackets also need to pay their factory workers.