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RE: Former President Jimmy Carter Enters Hospice Care at Home
(03-14-2023 03:46 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
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(03-14-2023 12:28 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Good man, bad ideas. I pray God gives him the rest he deserves and the comfort his family needs.

Another bad idea-asking Biden to do his eulogy.

Maybe Rosalyn should overrule him and pick someone better.
Wonder who will write it? Damn sure won't be Joe.

It should be written by the head of Habitat for Humanity. This is one area where Carter really did some very positive work which was inspirational for other leaders to get involved.

It should in part be given by the Sunday School class he taught at the Baptist Church in Plains.

Carter the person is much more beloved than Carter the President. And anyone who has met Rosalynn knows the depth of her graciousness and humility. The last thing that the Carters reeked of after the presidency was politics. You'll note that the Obamas, Clintons and Bushes all sat together at H.W.'s funeral. They were shepherded and groomed into the political structure by some of the same political forces in spite of being in different parties. At that funeral the Carters sat to themselves. Sometimes a picture truly is worth a thousand words. Protocol and custom essentially has a seated POTUS having a role. Of course, with the funeral of H.W. that too was turned into a slight of Trump.
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President Carter is a caring man that lived what he preached. I respect him greatly for that even if I might disagree with him. I hope he passes on peacefully and without pain. Both may parents died in Hospice care and I have nothing but good things to say about the way they were allowed to pass with dignity.
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Just now seeing this:
(02-19-2023 10:07 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  At least two major things plagued his presidency. Americans, for the first time, having to pay more than next to nothing for gas. Up to that point gas was exceedingly cheap ibut the Middle East oil embargo started raising prices and creating shortages. Second, there was the overthrow of the government in Iran and Iranian students taking off American hostages at the American embassy. Those hostages were not released until, I think, the day after Reagan took office.
Carter was not the first president to be confronted with high fuel prices. The OPEC oil embargo against the United States began in October 1973, during the Nixon years. The cost of gas basically quadrupled over the course of 12 months, with shortages a common fact of life. Politically, Nixon was crushed by this and never recovered. Combined with the Watergate crisis that was reaching a boiling point, Nixon was forced to resign in August 1974.

Once the hostages were taken in Iran (November 1979), there was essentially no non-military solution possible. I admit that any president would’ve been stuck between a rock and a hard place. But the fact that Iran seized the hostages in the first place was a sign of Carter’s weakness, and the complete absence of respect or fear that America’s enemies felt towards him.
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(04-26-2023 05:30 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Just now seeing this:
(02-19-2023 10:07 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  At least two major things plagued his presidency. Americans, for the first time, having to pay more than next to nothing for gas. Up to that point gas was exceedingly cheap ibut the Middle East oil embargo started raising prices and creating shortages. Second, there was the overthrow of the government in Iran and Iranian students taking off American hostages at the American embassy. Those hostages were not released until, I think, the day after Reagan took office.
Carter was not the first president to be confronted with high fuel prices. The OPEC oil embargo against the United States began in October 1973, during the Nixon years. The cost of gas basically quadrupled over the course of 12 months, with shortages a common fact of life. Politically, Nixon was crushed by this and never recovered. Combined with the Watergate crisis that was reaching a boiling point, Nixon was forced to resign in August 1974.

Once the hostages were taken in Iran (November 1979), there was essentially no non-military solution possible. I admit that any president would’ve been stuck between a rock and a hard place. But the fact that Iran seized the hostages in the first place was a sign of Carter’s weakness, and the complete absence of respect or fear that America’s enemies felt towards him.

To make matters worse the government tried to deport Iranian students here from our campuses. The problem was most were from families loyal to the Shaw, and deportation would have been a death sentence. Academicians who knew this helped to keep them safe for a bit, until the deportation fever died down and orderly reasonable arrangements could be made with several European allies. That too was stupid and ill-conceived policy that affected real lives.
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RE: Former President Jimmy Carter Enters Hospice Care at Home
(03-14-2023 03:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-14-2023 03:46 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(03-14-2023 02:28 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-14-2023 12:28 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Good man, bad ideas. I pray God gives him the rest he deserves and the comfort his family needs.

Another bad idea-asking Biden to do his eulogy.

Maybe Rosalyn should overrule him and pick someone better.
Wonder who will write it? Damn sure won't be Joe.

It should be written by the head of Habitat for Humanity. This is one area where Carter really did some very positive work which was inspirational for other leaders to get involved.

It should in part be given by the Sunday School class he taught at the Baptist Church in Plains.

Carter the person is much more beloved than Carter the President. And anyone who has met Rosalynn knows the depth of her graciousness and humility. The last thing that the Carters reeked of after the presidency was politics. You'll note that the Obamas, Clintons and Bushes all sat together at H.W.'s funeral. They were shepherded and groomed into the political structure by some of the same political forces in spite of being in different parties. At that funeral the Carters sat to themselves. Sometimes a picture truly is worth a thousand words. Protocol and custom essentially has a seated POTUS having a role. Of course, with the funeral of H.W. that too was turned into a slight of Trump.

I honestly see JC as the oxymoron of irony ... biggest heart with zero ability to lead any nation...

in in our la(s)test version, we have the most sadistic quack-a-doodle that receives orders from the hotline that cannot (or doesn't matter if) be traced...

if certain states don't figgle out their mail-in balloting (which isn't going to happen by design), all I'll read over the next 1.5 years will be nothing but more rhetorical bs...

it's game over, wise man! the majority within the minorities are putty in an envelope...

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RE: Former President Jimmy Carter Enters Hospice Care at Home
(02-18-2023 04:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:Former President Jimmy Carter will be receiving home hospice care, according to a statement from The Carter Center on Saturday afternoon. It read:

After a series of short hospital stays, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter today decided to spend his remaining time at home with his family and receive hospice care instead of additional medical intervention, He has the full support of his family and his medical team. The Carter family asks for privacy during this time and is grateful for the concern shown by his many admirers.

He and his wife Rosalynn, 95, have been married for 76 years, and their last public appearance was in August in Georgia for a Friends of the Carter’s event, according to WMAZ.

So, a couple of things...

As a conservative, I have been a critic of Jimmy over the years but at this time I will stand down and focus on the man and not the former DEM POTUS.

The Hospice care at home is something that I can relate to...my wife and I decided after she was deemed terminal from her cancer battle that we would request Hospice in our home so that she could be surrounded 24/7 by family and friends. I have a ton of respect for Hospice and would strongly recommend them to anyone if that is a viable option. Having your dying loved one at home is an incredible opportunity to say goodbye and to love on them until their final breaths.

76 years of marriage..SEVENTY SIX YEARS! I can only take my hat off in respect to that. I was proud to be married nearly 23 years but 76 is beyond my comprehension. Especially in this day and age with traditional marriage under constant attack from the world's naysayers.

Godspeed and prayers to you Mr. President...you've earned it Sir.
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(04-26-2023 06:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(02-18-2023 04:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:Former President Jimmy Carter will be receiving home hospice care, according to a statement from The Carter Center on Saturday afternoon. It read:

After a series of short hospital stays, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter today decided to spend his remaining time at home with his family and receive hospice care instead of additional medical intervention, He has the full support of his family and his medical team. The Carter family asks for privacy during this time and is grateful for the concern shown by his many admirers.

He and his wife Rosalynn, 95, have been married for 76 years, and their last public appearance was in August in Georgia for a Friends of the Carter’s event, according to WMAZ.

So, a couple of things...

As a conservative, I have been a critic of Jimmy over the years but at this time I will stand down and focus on the man and not the former DEM POTUS.

The Hospice care at home is something that I can relate to...my wife and I decided after she was deemed terminal from her cancer battle that we would request Hospice in our home so that she could be surrounded 24/7 by family and friends. I have a ton of respect for Hospice and would strongly recommend them to anyone if that is a viable option. Having your dying loved one at home is an incredible opportunity to say goodbye and to love on them until their final breaths.

76 years of marriage..SEVENTY SIX YEARS! I can only take my hat off in respect to that. I was proud to be married nearly 23 years but 76 is beyond my comprehension. Especially in this day and age with traditional marriage under constant attack from the world's naysayers.

Godspeed and prayers to you Mr. President...you've earned it Sir.

The Carter's are truly fine people. He wasn't beltway. His own party worked against him. Sound familiar? Different era, same result. I wish both he and his precious wife Rosalynn all the best and for him a painless anticipation of God.
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These last two posts succinctly depict the truth re Carter and his final days in hospice.
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(04-26-2023 06:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(02-18-2023 04:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:Former President Jimmy Carter will be receiving home hospice care, according to a statement from The Carter Center on Saturday afternoon. It read:

After a series of short hospital stays, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter today decided to spend his remaining time at home with his family and receive hospice care instead of additional medical intervention, He has the full support of his family and his medical team. The Carter family asks for privacy during this time and is grateful for the concern shown by his many admirers.

He and his wife Rosalynn, 95, have been married for 76 years, and their last public appearance was in August in Georgia for a Friends of the Carter’s event, according to WMAZ.

So, a couple of things...

As a conservative, I have been a critic of Jimmy over the years but at this time I will stand down and focus on the man and not the former DEM POTUS.

The Hospice care at home is something that I can relate to...my wife and I decided after she was deemed terminal from her cancer battle that we would request Hospice in our home so that she could be surrounded 24/7 by family and friends. I have a ton of respect for Hospice and would strongly recommend them to anyone if that is a viable option. Having your dying loved one at home is an incredible opportunity to say goodbye and to love on them until their final breaths.

76 years of marriage..SEVENTY SIX YEARS! I can only take my hat off in respect to that. I was proud to be married nearly 23 years but 76 is beyond my comprehension. Especially in this day and age with traditional marriage under constant attack from the world's naysayers.

Godspeed and prayers to you Mr. President...you've earned it Sir.
My sister spent her last couple of weeks in Hospice at home. My Father was in Hospice at a facility, but he had been in assisted living and was no longer in his own home. They were nice people.
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(04-26-2023 08:54 PM)bullet Wrote:  My sister spent her last couple of weeks in Hospice at home. My Father was in Hospice at a facility, but he had been in assisted living and was no longer in his own home. They were nice people.

Thanks for sharing bullet. My wife lasted 10 days. The staff and nurses were so helpful, respectful, professional, caring. Bittersweet memories...
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(04-26-2023 08:54 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(04-26-2023 06:26 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  
(02-18-2023 04:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:Former President Jimmy Carter will be receiving home hospice care, according to a statement from The Carter Center on Saturday afternoon. It read:

After a series of short hospital stays, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter today decided to spend his remaining time at home with his family and receive hospice care instead of additional medical intervention, He has the full support of his family and his medical team. The Carter family asks for privacy during this time and is grateful for the concern shown by his many admirers.

He and his wife Rosalynn, 95, have been married for 76 years, and their last public appearance was in August in Georgia for a Friends of the Carter’s event, according to WMAZ.

So, a couple of things...

As a conservative, I have been a critic of Jimmy over the years but at this time I will stand down and focus on the man and not the former DEM POTUS.

The Hospice care at home is something that I can relate to...my wife and I decided after she was deemed terminal from her cancer battle that we would request Hospice in our home so that she could be surrounded 24/7 by family and friends. I have a ton of respect for Hospice and would strongly recommend them to anyone if that is a viable option. Having your dying loved one at home is an incredible opportunity to say goodbye and to love on them until their final breaths.

76 years of marriage..SEVENTY SIX YEARS! I can only take my hat off in respect to that. I was proud to be married nearly 23 years but 76 is beyond my comprehension. Especially in this day and age with traditional marriage under constant attack from the world's naysayers.

Godspeed and prayers to you Mr. President...you've earned it Sir.
My sister spent her last couple of weeks in Hospice at home. My Father was in Hospice at a facility, but he had been in assisted living and was no longer in his own home. They were nice people.

I've done a bit more self revealing today than normal so why not a little more. I've been with well over 100 dying people. Many were in hospice, a lot were in hospital rooms. I've probably been with 3 dozen or so when they died. When I first started with that I found it a bit emotionally overwhelming at times. But that was because I was projecting my feelings into the situation instead of just being with the person.

Each one had the same outcome, but the experience of it was as unique as each person. The vast majority of them faced it with a sense of acceptance and peace and merely witnessing that was a gift of assurance to me. I don't embrace death, but neither am I afraid of it as I once was. It is natural, final, and any pain transferred is in the horrible sense of loss in the lives of those who loved them. Sharing that sense of loss with each other helps them to bridge the chasm which is left by the physical absence of one who is always in their minds and hearts. You can't replace them, but you can remember their love.

I've been with more than a few who saw loved ones coming for them, and no, they weren't on opiates or any other mind numbing medication. I won't relate the stories but they were profound.

One which did not see anyone coming for him was an old soldier who simply wouldn't die. I asked him what was troubling his mind. He wanted to know who would care for his wife. His children did as dutifully as he would have. The wife was frantic because she thought he was suffering. I asked her to give him permission to go home and to assure him that she would be fine. She knelt down and whispered it into his ear and he let go right then. Their bond was strong enough to keep him alive with a terminal illness well past when his body should have failed. Think 3 months. There was a collective relief and peace.

The most disturbing deaths were those who were afraid, and they were few. Family and friends really do make a difference, as does faith.

Families, all families, need visits and calls weeks and months after the funeral. In our society there is mind-numbing rush of the well wishers before and just after a funeral, and then when the gaps in our lives are most evident, nobody is coming around. This is what we can do as a society to help. Never inundate or impose, but simply taking somebody out to lunch a month or two afterward with no stated objective and being with them to talk about whatever they wish to talk about is usually a welcomed break. That can be about the loved one they lost, or the kids, or their job, or the ballgame. They'll pick the topic. You only need to be the friend. These are little bridges that get us each into the rest of our lives.

The people I've loved and lost are all still in my head and things they have said to me in the flesh still speak to me in times where I need to hear them. Only physical presence has been lost. And that is essentially what gives the dying peace. Their bodies are failing, not their minds or spirits. Energy never ceases to exist, it merely transforms. I see that as a God thing, but for some physicist friends of mine, they are comforted by the physical reality of it.

it's always a holy time, whether all realize it or not. Reverence for life in all of its stages is holy time. Who's to say which is the beginning and which is the end.
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(04-26-2023 09:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I've done a bit more self revealing today than normal so why not a little more. I've been with well over 100 dying people. Many were in hospice, a lot were in hospital rooms. I've probably been with 3 dozen or so when they died. When I first started with that I found it a bit emotionally overwhelming at times. But that was because I was projecting my feelings into the situation instead of just being with the person.

Each one had the same outcome, but the experience of it was as unique as each person. The vast majority of them faced it with a sense of acceptance and peace and merely witnessing that was a gift of assurance to me. I don't embrace death, but neither am I afraid of it as I once was. It is natural, final, and any pain transferred is in the horrible sense of loss in the lives of those who loved them. Sharing that sense of loss with each other helps them to bridge the chasm which is left by the physical absence of one who is always in their minds and hearts. You can't replace them, but you can remember their love.

I've been with more than a few who saw loved ones coming for them, and no, they weren't on opiates or any other mind numbing medication. I won't relate the stories but they were profound.

One which did not see anyone coming for him was an old soldier who simply wouldn't die. I asked him what was troubling his mind. He wanted to know who would care for his wife. His children did as dutifully as he would have. The wife was frantic because she thought he was suffering. I asked her to give him permission to go home and to assure him that she would be fine. She knelt down and whispered it into his ear and he let go right then. Their bond was strong enough to keep him alive with a terminal illness well past when his body should have failed. Think 3 months. There was a collective relief and peace.

The most disturbing deaths were those who were afraid, and they were few. Family and friends really do make a difference, as does faith.

Families, all families, need visits and calls weeks and months after the funeral. In our society there is mind-numbing rush of the well wishers before and just after a funeral, and then when the gaps in our lives are most evident, nobody is coming around. This is what we can do as a society to help. Never inundate or impose, but simply taking somebody out to lunch a month or two afterward with no stated objective and being with them to talk about whatever they wish to talk about is usually a welcomed break. That can be about the loved one they lost, or the kids, or their job, or the ballgame. They'll pick the topic. You only need to be the friend. These are little bridges that get us each into the rest of our lives.

The people I've loved and lost are all still in my head and things they have said to me in the flesh still speak to me in times where I need to hear them. Only physical presence has been lost. And that is essentially what gives the dying peace. Their bodies are failing, not their minds or spirits. Energy never ceases to exist, it merely transforms. I see that as a God thing, but for some physicist friends of mine, they are comforted by the physical reality of it.

it's always a holy time, whether all realize it or not. Reverence for life in all of its stages is holy time. Who's to say which is the beginning and which is the end.

Also thanks for sharing JR. I'll say it up front, our faith in Christ's cross and the promise of eternal life through him is what made my experience so much easier. I know this earthly life is but a whisper, a flower blooming and then gone...but heaven [and Hell] is ETERNAL. The Scriptures tell me that my wife is in the presence of the Lord apart from the body [in spirit]. She will get a new glorified body [perfect] when Christ comes back to rapture the church. The cancer-filled one is forever gone Amen! That gives me such peace that I can't really put into words. We had such incredible prayers and support and meals provided to us from our church family. I can't imagine going through something that hard without that support.

My wife also had some moments that I can only describe as being in two places at once. My pastor told me he has witnessed this many times with different people nearing their last moments. My wonderful mother-in-law is a retired LPN who last worked in a nursing home. She would describe the different experiences of residents' dying moments as peaceful or fearful. I don't want to turn this into a sermon but if folks don't know Christ, there's no better time than the present! That said, everyone needs to love their family members and friends with all ya got because we don't know when someone will take their last breath. Life is too short...
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President Carter is a good man, and although his Presidency was a disaster due to external factors, self inflicted wounds, amongst other things, I can truly say the world will be much worse off when he does pass.


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(02-18-2023 09:01 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Fine man, terrible president.

I'd agree with this. He did a whole lot of good with his microphone after leaving office though. It did nothing to rehabilitate his Presidency, but it made the world a better place.
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