(02-21-2023 12:52 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  I'm not wrong, he made a comment about recruiting Texas and I pointed out that ECU doesn't have any Texas recruits.

'Huntington is the furthest west'
And then shown they have international and california recruits.
'lol u mad'

(02-21-2023 10:29 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If the AAC had only added UAB and UTSA the last round would they be in a better position to add Army, AF, and CSU today?

I think so.

Exactly. When the expansion prospect pool is shallow---no reason to go big in expansion. UAB was the only obvious choice at that time. That would have made the AAC a 9 team conference---perfectly adequate for a round robin schedule. If you are concerned about numbers---add 2 and go to a 10 member conference. Going to 14 always seemed like the wrong move to me.

At this point, despite all the ECU whining---8 of the 14 AAC football members---more than half----are located east of the Mississippi---(if you include Tulane which is ON the Mississippi---its 9). Honestly, right now its 3 "cores". The eastern core is Temple, ECU, Charlotte, Navy, FAU, and USF (6). The central core is UAB, Memphis, and Tulane (3). The western core is Tulsa, N Texas, SMU, Rice, and UTSA (5). Given the replacement candidate pool is pretty lack luster and fairly homogeneous---any replacement really should be located in the central or western cores---not the east. That said, if one candidate really stands out---then you take them regardless of where they are. Frankly---other than Army---I dont really see that "stand out" candidate.

(02-21-2023 01:07 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:52 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:14 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 10:54 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 09:40 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  It's just kind of silly that everyone thinks we foolheartedly expected to grab all these media eyeballs with our adds. It came down to A) athletic spending, and B) where we recruit. If the teams turn out to be great and grab some market share, fantastic. Definitely worked for UCF.

NONE of those schools are going to turn out like UCF.

I didn’t realize we had Nostradumbass gracing our board!

Show me when a UCF rise has happened to any other G5 school. Going from 1-AA to P5 status in 25 years.

If your point is that what UCF has done is unprecedented ... I agree.

But you noted "NONE of those schools are going to turn out like UCF" as if you have some type crystal ball that predicts the future. It was a questionable statement that sparked his response.

I stand by my statement. None of the CUSA6 schools will repeat what UCF did.

(02-21-2023 01:09 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:52 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  I'm not wrong, he made a comment about recruiting Texas and I pointed out that ECU doesn't have any Texas recruits.

'Huntington is the furthest west'
And then shown they have international and california recruits.
'lol u mad'

Again... He mentioned Texas as a recruiting ground and I commented that ECU has ZERO Texas recruits or Transfers. What part of that do you not understand?

(02-18-2023 10:59 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  

(02-18-2023 10:53 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(02-15-2023 06:00 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  University of Southern Mississippi

If there was any justice in the world southern miss or Marshall would get the invite

No thanks. I was interested when UConn left. And if they had made different picks last year. But I have no interest in being in a rebranded version of CUSA I hated.

I'm happy with the SBC.

DITTO but I miss the Memphis and ECU rivalries even as one-sided as they were.

(02-21-2023 12:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:21 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 09:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 08:39 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  1) Well done picking the farthest addition from the school I support. The Texas schools were obviously added for the schools that recruit Texas more heavily. How many players to SMU/Tulsa/Houston have from Dallas/Houston/San Antonio and their suburbs?

2) We have guys from California, Germany, Australia. Time to get yourself a new map.

3) How many ECU players are from Charlotte or Suburbs of Charlotte (the team we added that was close to ECU)? I'm counting 10.

10 from Charlotte or suburbs of Charlotte
1 from Hueytown, 1 from Phenix City, Alabama
1 from Orlando, 1 from St. Augustine, 1 from Stuart, Florida

2023 recruits: Tallahassee, Apopka, Lakeland, Lake Butler, Kissimmee

PS: We also have a boatload of players on the roster/recruit list from Georgia. That's why, selfishly, Ga State would be my pick if we HAD to add someone. Obviously not the same situation for the Western flank, but ECU/USF/UAB/Memphis would benefit from an Atlanta hub.

Dang, did I strike a nerve?

Is this not trolling? You basically just said, "LOL I'm wrong, I didn't do any research, u mad bro?"

Fact Free FunBelt Fans

He said UNT was in the AAC for their recruiting base. I pointed out that ECU doesn't recruit Texas. What part of that do you not understand?

As maybeimhere already pointed out, you said "furthest west is Huntingtown WV" -- this is clearly factually wrong. California, Australia, most of the Georgia recruits CoastalJuan mentioned, I saw Baton Rogue in a few seconds of scrolling.

The "get a new map" makes it clear this what's being addressed.

DON'T say for a third time "I said ECU didnt have Texas recruits: Coastal Juan already handled you on that one.

(02-21-2023 02:13 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 01:07 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:52 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:14 PM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 10:54 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  NONE of those schools are going to turn out like UCF.

I didn’t realize we had Nostradumbass gracing our board!

Show me when a UCF rise has happened to any other G5 school. Going from 1-AA to P5 status in 25 years.

If your point is that what UCF has done is unprecedented ... I agree.

But you noted "NONE of those schools are going to turn out like UCF" as if you have some type crystal ball that predicts the future. It was a questionable statement that sparked his response.

I stand by my statement. None of the CUSA6 schools will repeat what UCF did.

To be clear, I don't anticipate another UCF either (though UTSA seemingly has the potential to replicate the success of UCF, at least in football).

As you might know, I am on record with being supportive of the expansion approach the AAC deployed (and will, I assume, continue to take). The goal is not to be the "best" G5 football league (were that the case, the AAC would have pursued AppState and your Marshall). Or the "best" G5 basketball group. Rather, the goal is to be the "best all-round" G5 league — and a top three league in all of Division I notwithstanding the P5 — in terms of a combination of appealing urban locations, academics and athletics.

(02-21-2023 02:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:21 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 09:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  Dang, did I strike a nerve?

Is this not trolling? You basically just said, "LOL I'm wrong, I didn't do any research, u mad bro?"

Fact Free FunBelt Fans

He said UNT was in the AAC for their recruiting base. I pointed out that ECU doesn't recruit Texas. What part of that do you not understand?

As maybeimhere already pointed out, you said "furthest west is Huntingtown WV" -- this is clearly factually wrong. California, Australia, most of the Georgia recruits CoastalJuan mentioned, I saw Baton Rogue in a few seconds of scrolling.

The "get a new map" makes it clear this what's being addressed.

DON'T say for a third time "I said ECU didnt have Texas recruits: Coastal Juan already handled you on that one.

Bro Earth is a globe. The Aussie is the FURTHEST EAST recruit.

(02-21-2023 02:49 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 02:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:21 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  Is this not trolling? You basically just said, "LOL I'm wrong, I didn't do any research, u mad bro?"

Fact Free FunBelt Fans

He said UNT was in the AAC for their recruiting base. I pointed out that ECU doesn't recruit Texas. What part of that do you not understand?

As maybeimhere already pointed out, you said "furthest west is Huntingtown WV" -- this is clearly factually wrong. California, Australia, most of the Georgia recruits CoastalJuan mentioned, I saw Baton Rogue in a few seconds of scrolling.

The "get a new map" makes it clear this what's being addressed.

DON'T say for a third time "I said ECU didnt have Texas recruits: Coastal Juan already handled you on that one.

Bro Earth is a globe. The Aussie is the FURTHEST EAST recruit.

Bro book a ticket and tell me which direction it takes you.
It's acouple thousand miles closer going westward than eastward.

Signed, a guy who lived in Australia for a couple years

(02-21-2023 03:09 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 02:49 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 02:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Fact Free FunBelt Fans

He said UNT was in the AAC for their recruiting base. I pointed out that ECU doesn't recruit Texas. What part of that do you not understand?

As maybeimhere already pointed out, you said "furthest west is Huntingtown WV" -- this is clearly factually wrong. California, Australia, most of the Georgia recruits CoastalJuan mentioned, I saw Baton Rogue in a few seconds of scrolling.

The "get a new map" makes it clear this what's being addressed.

DON'T say for a third time "I said ECU didnt have Texas recruits: Coastal Juan already handled you on that one.

Bro Earth is a globe. The Aussie is the FURTHEST EAST recruit.

Bro book a ticket and tell me which direction it takes you.
It's acouple thousand miles closer going westward than eastward.

Signed, a guy who lived in Australia for a couple years

CLT-JFK-DOH-SYD. All EAST.

Signed, a guy whose globe spins both ways

(PS i didn't think i had to add the sarcasm font)

(02-21-2023 02:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:21 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 09:29 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  Dang, did I strike a nerve?

Is this not trolling? You basically just said, "LOL I'm wrong, I didn't do any research, u mad bro?"

Fact Free FunBelt Fans

He said UNT was in the AAC for their recruiting base. I pointed out that ECU doesn't recruit Texas. What part of that do you not understand?

As maybeimhere already pointed out, you said "furthest west is Huntingtown WV" -- this is clearly factually wrong. California, Australia, most of the Georgia recruits CoastalJuan mentioned, I saw Baton Rogue in a few seconds of scrolling.

The "get a new map" makes it clear this what's being addressed.

DON'T say for a third time "I said ECU didnt have Texas recruits: Coastal Juan already handled you on that one.

You're just wanting to argue. The Huntington remark was a joke because he compared the recruiting base of Texas as 500 times that of Huntington. So I was giving him a hard time because ECU actually has recruits from Huntington and not Texas. Sheesh

Again, he mentioned the Texas recruits so that's what I was addressing. Get over yourself SMDH

Marshall 49 Navy 7

(02-21-2023 03:51 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 02:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:50 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 12:21 PM)maybeimhere Wrote:  Is this not trolling? You basically just said, "LOL I'm wrong, I didn't do any research, u mad bro?"

Fact Free FunBelt Fans

He said UNT was in the AAC for their recruiting base. I pointed out that ECU doesn't recruit Texas. What part of that do you not understand?

As maybeimhere already pointed out, you said "furthest west is Huntingtown WV" -- this is clearly factually wrong. California, Australia, most of the Georgia recruits CoastalJuan mentioned, I saw Baton Rogue in a few seconds of scrolling.

The "get a new map" makes it clear this what's being addressed.

DON'T say for a third time "I said ECU didnt have Texas recruits: Coastal Juan already handled you on that one.

You're just wanting to argue. The Huntington remark was a joke because he compared the recruiting base of Texas as 500 times that of Huntington. So I was giving him a hard time because ECU actually has recruits from Huntington and not Texas. Sheesh

Again, he mentioned the Texas recruits so that's what I was addressing. Get over yourself SMDH

Marshall 49 Navy 7

Yup you guys got scoreboard.

Have a nice day

The farce that you need a conference school in XX state to recruit it is hilarious.

Never been in a conference with a Florida school and yet we get 3-5 FL recruits annually.

But hey only accept the facts that support your claim as always...

(02-22-2023 09:13 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  The farce that you need a conference school in XX state to recruit it is hilarious.

Never been in a conference with a Florida school and yet we get 3-5 FL recruits annually.

But hey only accept the facts that support your claim as always...

I've never thought having a school in a conference in a state does much for recruiting either.

I would love to see e.g. data from West Virginia on how many recruits they got from Texas the past 10 years after joining the B12 compared to before.

Missouri 2010 Roster
3 - KY/TN/SC/GA/FL
31 - TX

Missouri 2022 Roster
20 - KY/TN/SC/GA/FL
11 - TX

Links:
https://mutigers.com/sports/football/roster/2010-11
https://mutigers.com/sports/football/roster/2022

(02-21-2023 01:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-21-2023 10:29 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If the AAC had only added UAB and UTSA the last round would they be in a better position to add Army, AF, and CSU today?

I think so.

Exactly. When the expansion prospect pool is shallow---no reason to go big in expansion. UAB was the only obvious choice at that time. That would have made the AAC a 9 team conference---perfectly adequate for a round robin schedule. If you are concerned about numbers---add 2 and go to a 10 member conference. Going to 14 always seemed like the wrong move to me.

At this point, despite all the ECU whining---8 of the 14 AAC football members---more than half----are located east of the Mississippi---(if you include Tulane which is ON the Mississippi---its 9). Honestly, right now its 3 "cores". The eastern core is Temple, ECU, Charlotte, Navy, FAU, and USF (6). The central core is UAB, Memphis, and Tulane (3). The western core is Tulsa, N Texas, SMU, Rice, and UTSA (5). Given the replacement candidate pool is pretty lack luster and fairly homogeneous---any replacement really should be located in the central or western cores---not the east. That said, if one candidate really stands out---then you take them regardless of where they are. Frankly---other than Army---I don't really see that "stand out" candidate.

You are correct that the AAC needs to add to the West.

East - Temple, ECU, Navy, FAU, USF, UAB, Charlotte
West - Tulsa, Memphis, N. Texas, UTSA, Rice, Tulane, SMU

If SMU goes to the PAC 12, the best replacement option is Louisiana. It is located in Lafayette with easy access on I 10 along with Tulane, Rice and UTSA, making for a perfect travel partner. Lafayette is the 3rd largest and fastest growing city in Louisiana at 127,000 and the greater Lafayette area has a population of over 250,000. UL is a Carnegie R1 university. It has top level facilities and will be doing a $70M football stadium upgrade at the end of the coming season. UL has top level programs in football, basketball, baseball and softball. I know the AAC has focused on large markets with its recent additions, but do any remaining large market schools really have a presence in those markets? Lafayette is larger than Greenville, NC at 90,000 population, but look at how well ECU fits. Like ECU, need to look at the right fit, not just market size.