Quote:CBS News reported on Tuesday that U.S. intelligence had been tracking the Chinese spy balloon that was shot down over the Atlantic near the Carolinas since it took off from China and that the U.S. military had been tracking it for more than a week before it entered U.S. airspace, much longer than the Biden administration had said.

The Biden team has claimed that they first learned about it on Jan. 28, when it was near Alaska. Then, as I’ve noted before, their story evolved, first saying they didn’t have time to take a shot over Alaskan waters. Then NORAD Commander Glen VanHerck said he couldn’t take the shot because it wasn’t demonstrating “hostile intent.”

So if this report from CBS is correct, add one more lie to what they told us about this whole story and they had plenty of time to plan a takedown over water, contrary to what they said. If they had wanted to.

The bottom line is that they only reacted after the backlash from the public. We can see how Joe Biden downplayed the whole thing and even said he didn’t see this as any kind of a “major breach.” Likely, they never would have shot it down, had it not been for the American public getting upset about it after Americans in Billings, Montana made their sighting public. It’s also likely why they are shooting down objects they claim they can’t identify.

CBS said the leading theory was that the other three objects which they are having trouble recovering were harmless research balloons and as we previously reported, likely benign. But how can you say that if you also say that you don’t even know what they are? Even pilots were “perplexed” by what they saw, with different descriptions of the objects. GOP senators argued that the Biden team has to speak on the objects and what is going on. CBS said the Biden team had ruled out that any of these objects were connected with the U.S. government.

As I reported, Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) had dished more on what he had learned during the briefing on the objects on Tuesday.

At this point, getting caught in yet one more lie isn’t going to help the practically non-existent credibility of the Biden team. So if Joe Biden did speak to this, I’m not sure people would believe him, without more evidence. That’s what a mess they have made of this whole situation at this point.

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Sen. Kennedy Dishes on Info They Got in Briefing on Those 'Objects'

Quote:Senators were given a closed-door briefing on Tuesday on the three “objects” that were shot down over the U.S. and Canada over the weekend.

While many of the Senators were limited in what they could say because the meeting was classified, senators on both sides of the aisle said that the Biden team should make the information known to the American people. Both sides called for more transparency from the Biden team.

“There is a lot of information presented to us this morning that could be told to the American people without any harm to sources or methods or national security,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) said.

Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) said that Joe Biden owed the American people an explanation. He said Justin Trudeau has spoken to Canadians and “surely” we’re not in a situation where Trudeau is a “more decisive and forceful leader” than Biden, Cotton said.

Unfortunately, that’s exactly where we are. While White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre claims that Joe Biden is the “best communicator” the White House has, he’s missing and can’t be found. The reason? Because they’re likely afraid that if he’s asked about aliens he’ll say something that will get them in trouble or something else ridiculous.

The person who seemed to offer the most information about the briefing was Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA). Kennedy said up until a couple of weeks ago he was given the impression that this was a new thing. He said the briefing made clear to him that this has been going on for “many years,” since at least 2017.

“Many people, intentionally or otherwise, have been given the impression that [until] a couple weeks ago, our skies were clear, and then all of a sudden we have spy balloons and other unidentified flying objects raining down on us like confetti,” Kennedy said. “That’s not accurate. These objects have been flying over us for years, many years.” He said, “They’ve known about them” meaning I guess whoever briefed them indicated they knew, but that except for the Chinese spy balloon, they didn’t know what they were. “What’s different about the last two weeks is that we started shooting them down,” he exclaimed.

Kennedy continued, noting that the Biden team is unable to find the remnants of the three “objects” they allegedly shot down, all they can find is the remnants of the Chinese spy balloon. “They’re lost. They can’t find them. The remnants are in very difficult terrain,” he explained.

Kennedy declared it was clear it was “not a recent phenomenon.” He said the administration did not explain why they were shooting them down now. A reporter asked if it was a “wagging of the dog” situation (to make Biden look better). That’s very likely what it is, that shooting down whatever they are, in the backlash of Biden’s bad handling of the Chinese spy balloon, would make him look tougher. Kennedy wasn’t quite going there but he said, “We need more transparency…now that this cow is out of the barn.”

Kennedy said Joe Biden and the Director of National Intelligence needed to explain to the American people what these things were — if they knew — who put them up there and if the objects pose a threat, “and if the answer is no, how do they know that?” And if they know they’re not a threat, then what are they and why are they now firing missiles at them?

“The only thing I feel confident saying right now is that if you are confused, you understand the situation perfectly,” Kennedy explained.

That last is very clear as we seem to be getting fed all kinds of things by the Biden team, some of it conflicting. The claim now that they’ve known about this for years, seems to conflict with what they previously said about just finding out about incursions based on new intel unless that’s only about spy balloons. I’m not sure we can believe anything they say at this point. So what Kennedy said about the confusion here is right on the money — they need to provide us with answers, and swiftly. But Joe Biden is still hiding out and ducking the question.

I Don’t Know What’s Going On With These UFOs, But I Know We Won’t Get The Truth

They "can't find" the last 3 because they never happened. It's a complete fabrication by the feds to "look tough" and/or provide a distraction from things that are impacting citizens directly. Lucky for them they know the populace more or less has the attention span of a goldfish.

(02-15-2023 12:35 PM)b2b Wrote:  They "can't find" the last 3 because they never happened. It's a complete fabrication by the feds to "look tough" and/or provide a distraction from things that are impacting citizens directly. Lucky for them they know the populace more or less has the attention span of a goldfish.

Wag the dog.

Well until Biden is ever held accountable for anything... he's just going to keep lying is saggy old a$$ off.

No F-22, even in NORAD airspace, goes up to investigate a bogey without an AWACS nearby to watch its back.

An AWACS sees and tracks everything, even stuff coming apart as it falls to earth.

Wait..... so they know when it and where it started flight and tracked it all along ?

Is that what I'm seeing here?

Leftists?

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Can anyone imagine going to a hot war with these peeps in charge?

If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

(02-16-2023 08:07 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

Ffs the other 3 never happened. I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. No video, no eyewitness (other than gov't employees" and all 3 "shot down" in the middle of nowhere and allegedly can't find the wreckage.

Also "aliens" aren't aliens. It's one of 2 things. A globalist conspiracy to control the masses or demonic in nature. Actually it's probably a combo of the 2. Y'all go ahead and laugh but You better go ahead and process that now. And no I didn't learn that from "project blue beam" conspiracy theory. I've believed this about "aliens" since I was a kid.

(02-16-2023 09:52 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 08:07 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

Ffs the other 3 never happened. I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. No video, no eyewitness (other than gov't employees" and all 3 "shot down" in the middle of nowhere and allegedly can't find the wreckage.

Also "aliens" aren't aliens. It's one of 2 things. A globalist conspiracy to control the masses or demonic in nature. Actually it's probably a combo of the 2. Y'all go ahead and laugh but You better go ahead and process that now. And no I didn't learn that from "project blue beam" conspiracy theory. I've believed this about "aliens" since I was a kid.

At the risk of derailing the convo, why don't you believe in aliens?

(02-16-2023 08:07 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

Exactly. In a peace time situation the pilot would have to visually confirm what the object is and that it is not manned prior to getting any order blowing it out of the sky. They might not know EXACTLY what it is---but they have very good idea what it is (ie---its some sort of unmanned balloon or lighter than air ship).

(02-16-2023 12:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 09:52 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 08:07 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

Ffs the other 3 never happened. I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. No video, no eyewitness (other than gov't employees" and all 3 "shot down" in the middle of nowhere and allegedly can't find the wreckage.

Also "aliens" aren't aliens. It's one of 2 things. A globalist conspiracy to control the masses or demonic in nature. Actually it's probably a combo of the 2. Y'all go ahead and laugh but You better go ahead and process that now. And no I didn't learn that from "project blue beam" conspiracy theory. I've believed this about "aliens" since I was a kid.

At the risk of derailing the convo, why don't you believe in aliens?

I think Brian Cox summed it up nicely for me.

"The popular TV physicist argues it is unlikely they exist because the chances of sophisticated life evolving like humans have are simply too low.

Instead he believes ‘there’s probably nothing else’ and that we are the only civilization in this galaxy, at least.

The 54-year-old explained that, because it took so long for humans to evolve from a single cell in such extraordinary circumstances, he doesn’t think it has been repeated.

Speaking to Noble Rot magazine, he said: “You can confine the argument to the galaxy, to the Milky Way, because we’re never going to contact anything outside that and nothing’s ever contacting us from different galaxies."

“But in a galaxy, there are 400 billion stars and more planets than that... I think there are no civilizations out there.

“It took 3.8 billion years to go from the origin of life on the planet to a civilisation, and that’s a long time. It’s a third of the age of the universe.

“The universe has only been around for 13.8 billion years and, as sun-like stars typically last for four or five billion years, there’s a window of stability.

“So it takes four or five billion years to go from a single cell to civilisation, and stars really don’t remain stable on timescales much longer than that.

“The biologists I know think that it was such a freak occurrence that anything got multicellular. There’s probably nothing else.

“I’ve got one friend who likes to say that all there will be out there is slime at best.”

Cox said the possibility that we’re alone in this galaxy should not depress us.

He said: “What does it mean to live a finite, fragile life in an infinite eternal universe? Well, meaning is a property of life and intelligence.

“So I’d say that if we are the only civilisation in the Milky Way now, then Earth is the only island of meaning in a sea of 400 billion stars.

“So that is either frightening or, well, at the same time gives you a sense of our value.

“I would say the universe is meaningless without life.”

Asked in the past if believes alien life could exist Professor Cox has not denied it but rather thinks that the chances of a hi-tech civilisation emerging in our galaxy are very slim.

He has previously explained: “I tend to restrict myself to the galaxy, as I do think it’s possible that at the moment that there is just one civilization in the Milky Way, and that’s us.”

(02-16-2023 12:31 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 12:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  At the risk of derailing the convo, why don't you believe in aliens?

I think Brian Cox summed it up nicely for me.

"The popular TV physicist argues it is unlikely they exist because the chances of sophisticated life evolving like humans have are simply too low.

Instead he believes ‘there’s probably nothing else’ and that we are the only civilization in this galaxy, at least.

The 54-year-old explained that, because it took so long for humans to evolve from a single cell in such extraordinary circumstances, he doesn’t think it has been repeated.

Speaking to Noble Rot magazine, he said: “You can confine the argument to the galaxy, to the Milky Way, because we’re never going to contact anything outside that and nothing’s ever contacting us from different galaxies."

“But in a galaxy, there are 400 billion stars and more planets than that... I think there are no civilizations out there.

“It took 3.8 billion years to go from the origin of life on the planet to a civilisation, and that’s a long time. It’s a third of the age of the universe.

“The universe has only been around for 13.8 billion years and, as sun-like stars typically last for four or five billion years, there’s a window of stability.

“So it takes four or five billion years to go from a single cell to civilisation, and stars really don’t remain stable on timescales much longer than that.

“The biologists I know think that it was such a freak occurrence that anything got multicellular. There’s probably nothing else.

“I’ve got one friend who likes to say that all there will be out there is slime at best.”

Cox said the possibility that we’re alone in this galaxy should not depress us.

He said: “What does it mean to live a finite, fragile life in an infinite eternal universe? Well, meaning is a property of life and intelligence.

“So I’d say that if we are the only civilisation in the Milky Way now, then Earth is the only island of meaning in a sea of 400 billion stars.

“So that is either frightening or, well, at the same time gives you a sense of our value.

“I would say the universe is meaningless without life.”

Asked in the past if believes alien life could exist Professor Cox has not denied it but rather thinks that the chances of a hi-tech civilisation emerging in our galaxy are very slim.

He has previously explained: “I tend to restrict myself to the galaxy, as I do think it’s possible that at the moment that there is just one civilization in the Milky Way, and that’s us.”

I read an article somewhere that summarized a mathematical study of the rise of life from single cell organisms to modern day 'life'. The results suggested that that for life to exist as we know it now and to have started with a single single-cell organism roughly 650 million years ago given a solar system with the right conditions to support our carbon-based lifeforms would be all but impossible. Enough time has not passed for the necessary building blocks to have haphazardly arranged themselves in the correct proportions. It would occur only once in a nonillion tries - a number so infinitesimally small we shouldn't exist.

That fits sorta nicely with Brian Cox explanation. Life is so exceedingly rare, that it isn't' replicable given our scientific understanding of how life formed and the universe as a whole.

Enter God. If you are a believer, all we have to do is have faith that with the snap of His fingers, or a spoken word, that one-in-a-nonillion chance became a certainty. We obviously don't understand it, but it's as certain as our existence. As a believer, I know God created humans. Before us He created the angels. What are angels if not "alien" to us humans? Did God create other "aliens", another set of Adam and Eve in a different form? Who knows. If He did, they are probably in another galaxy so there's no chance of contact. But just how funny would it be if an "alien" spacecraft touched down, opened the doors, and out stepped a "human" from another galaxy?

The title of this thread is to long. Let me fix it.....

It should read:

RE: Biden* Team Has Been Lying From Beginning

(02-16-2023 12:31 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 12:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 09:52 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 08:07 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

Ffs the other 3 never happened. I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. No video, no eyewitness (other than gov't employees" and all 3 "shot down" in the middle of nowhere and allegedly can't find the wreckage.

Also "aliens" aren't aliens. It's one of 2 things. A globalist conspiracy to control the masses or demonic in nature. Actually it's probably a combo of the 2. Y'all go ahead and laugh but You better go ahead and process that now. And no I didn't learn that from "project blue beam" conspiracy theory. I've believed this about "aliens" since I was a kid.

At the risk of derailing the convo, why don't you believe in aliens?

I think Brian Cox summed it up nicely for me.

"The popular TV physicist argues it is unlikely they exist because the chances of sophisticated life evolving like humans have are simply too low.

Instead he believes ‘there’s probably nothing else’ and that we are the only civilization in this galaxy, at least.

The 54-year-old explained that, because it took so long for humans to evolve from a single cell in such extraordinary circumstances, he doesn’t think it has been repeated.

Speaking to Noble Rot magazine, he said: “You can confine the argument to the galaxy, to the Milky Way, because we’re never going to contact anything outside that and nothing’s ever contacting us from different galaxies."

“But in a galaxy, there are 400 billion stars and more planets than that... I think there are no civilizations out there.

“It took 3.8 billion years to go from the origin of life on the planet to a civilisation, and that’s a long time. It’s a third of the age of the universe.

“The universe has only been around for 13.8 billion years and, as sun-like stars typically last for four or five billion years, there’s a window of stability.

“So it takes four or five billion years to go from a single cell to civilisation, and stars really don’t remain stable on timescales much longer than that.

“The biologists I know think that it was such a freak occurrence that anything got multicellular. There’s probably nothing else.

“I’ve got one friend who likes to say that all there will be out there is slime at best.”

Cox said the possibility that we’re alone in this galaxy should not depress us.

He said: “What does it mean to live a finite, fragile life in an infinite eternal universe? Well, meaning is a property of life and intelligence.

“So I’d say that if we are the only civilisation in the Milky Way now, then Earth is the only island of meaning in a sea of 400 billion stars.

“So that is either frightening or, well, at the same time gives you a sense of our value.

“I would say the universe is meaningless without life.”

Asked in the past if believes alien life could exist Professor Cox has not denied it but rather thinks that the chances of a hi-tech civilisation emerging in our galaxy are very slim.

He has previously explained: “I tend to restrict myself to the galaxy, as I do think it’s possible that at the moment that there is just one civilization in the Milky Way, and that’s us.”

The flip side of that is we know it happened here. In a universe with an infinite number of stars and an infinite number of planets----the odds are kinda long that that it hasnt happened somewhere else---and with an infinite number of stars and planets out there---what are the odds that we developed before anyone else? That said---while I think the odds favor similar development elsewhere---I suspect the situations where intelligent life develops are unique enough that the odds are likely pretty long against other intelligent life being near enough to ever visit us.

(02-16-2023 01:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 12:31 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 12:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 09:52 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 08:07 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

Ffs the other 3 never happened. I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. No video, no eyewitness (other than gov't employees" and all 3 "shot down" in the middle of nowhere and allegedly can't find the wreckage.

Also "aliens" aren't aliens. It's one of 2 things. A globalist conspiracy to control the masses or demonic in nature. Actually it's probably a combo of the 2. Y'all go ahead and laugh but You better go ahead and process that now. And no I didn't learn that from "project blue beam" conspiracy theory. I've believed this about "aliens" since I was a kid.

At the risk of derailing the convo, why don't you believe in aliens?

I think Brian Cox summed it up nicely for me.

"The popular TV physicist argues it is unlikely they exist because the chances of sophisticated life evolving like humans have are simply too low.

Instead he believes ‘there’s probably nothing else’ and that we are the only civilization in this galaxy, at least.

The 54-year-old explained that, because it took so long for humans to evolve from a single cell in such extraordinary circumstances, he doesn’t think it has been repeated.

Speaking to Noble Rot magazine, he said: “You can confine the argument to the galaxy, to the Milky Way, because we’re never going to contact anything outside that and nothing’s ever contacting us from different galaxies."

“But in a galaxy, there are 400 billion stars and more planets than that... I think there are no civilizations out there.

“It took 3.8 billion years to go from the origin of life on the planet to a civilisation, and that’s a long time. It’s a third of the age of the universe.

“The universe has only been around for 13.8 billion years and, as sun-like stars typically last for four or five billion years, there’s a window of stability.

“So it takes four or five billion years to go from a single cell to civilisation, and stars really don’t remain stable on timescales much longer than that.

“The biologists I know think that it was such a freak occurrence that anything got multicellular. There’s probably nothing else.

“I’ve got one friend who likes to say that all there will be out there is slime at best.”

Cox said the possibility that we’re alone in this galaxy should not depress us.

He said: “What does it mean to live a finite, fragile life in an infinite eternal universe? Well, meaning is a property of life and intelligence.

“So I’d say that if we are the only civilisation in the Milky Way now, then Earth is the only island of meaning in a sea of 400 billion stars.

“So that is either frightening or, well, at the same time gives you a sense of our value.

“I would say the universe is meaningless without life.”

Asked in the past if believes alien life could exist Professor Cox has not denied it but rather thinks that the chances of a hi-tech civilisation emerging in our galaxy are very slim.

He has previously explained: “I tend to restrict myself to the galaxy, as I do think it’s possible that at the moment that there is just one civilization in the Milky Way, and that’s us.”

The flip side of that is we know it happened here. In a universe with an infinite number of stars and an infinite number of planets----the odds are kinda long that that it hasnt happened somewhere else---and with an infinite number of stars and planets out there---what are the odds that we developed before anyone else? That said---while I think the odds favor similar development elsewhere---I suspect the situations where intelligent life develops are unique enough that the odds are likely pretty long against other intelligent life being near enough to ever visit us.

Time travel is the most likely scenario. If it is possible, our enemies could travel back in time and do something like....oh I don't know.... say, fix elections to let people in to the US from the border and destroy the country from the inside and change the future. You don't want to bomb it. Would be too much to lose. Also, that may have happened and they went back and changed things around as it didn't work.

(02-15-2023 12:35 PM)b2b Wrote:  They "can't find" the last 3 because they never happened. It's a complete fabrication by the feds to "look tough" and/or provide a distraction from things that are impacting citizens directly. Lucky for them they know the populace more or less has the attention span of a goldfish.

This^^

(02-16-2023 12:20 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 09:52 AM)b2b Wrote:  

(02-16-2023 08:07 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  If it can be confirmed that the US watched the Chinese balloon lift off and still allowed it to transit the US airspace for a week then the entire administration basically committed treason. Lots of defense officials and senior officers need to be included with that bunch as well.


Someone else here made the comment in another thread that there is no way a US fighter pilot shot down an object in US airspace without knowing what it was. If I'm not mistaken, all three of the smaller objects were within the flight envelope of our aircraft. You can't convince me for a second that the pilots did not make a pass to visually confirm the radar contact if it was not behaving in an aggressive manner. So, either the objects didn't exist, we know what they are, or they took an aggressive stance to the approaching aircraft and were shot down. The first two mean the govt is obviously lying, the third means we are either at war with someone or we are taking a chance at picking a fight with a technologically superior civilization not of this planet.

Ffs the other 3 never happened. I can't believe anyone thinks otherwise. No video, no eyewitness (other than gov't employees" and all 3 "shot down" in the middle of nowhere and allegedly can't find the wreckage.

Also "aliens" aren't aliens. It's one of 2 things. A globalist conspiracy to control the masses or demonic in nature. Actually it's probably a combo of the 2. Y'all go ahead and laugh but You better go ahead and process that now. And no I didn't learn that from "project blue beam" conspiracy theory. I've believed this about "aliens" since I was a kid.

At the risk of derailing the convo, why don't you believe in aliens?

Why would any Christian? It'll be the greatest deception Satan has ever pulled. The groundwork has been laid for centuries and it's ramped up more and more and more since the invention of television. Frankly speaking it absolutely terrifies me how many humans want to believe in "aliens." They'll be something alright, but not physical beings from another planet.

Like I said, I've believed this for a LONG time and I've come across more people who believe it too more recently. You all can laugh at me now. I hope none of us are around to see what's coming. If we are I hope you remember.