I’m indifferent on Gonzaga. If they’re added, great. Basketball will be even better. If not, I won’t lose any sleep over it.

Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

Agreed. Gonzaga makes no sense to me.

UC’s had plenty of experiences with bball only schools and it rarely if ever makes sense. In most recent experience with the American, Wichita loses their coach and are basically a pointless add but at least needed to offset Navy as FB only.

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

Just sayin'... When Memphis was added to the AAC, much was made about "Fred Smith" and the "Fed Ex money" and cache that would come with them. It never materialized. The Liberty Bowl was supposedly in play...Nope. Fed Ex never stepped up to sponsor any of the Conference Championship games nor tournaments. And, for the record, Fed Ex was the main sponsor of the Orange Bowl for a while and they never threw any of their weight behind any of the AAC conference champions to appear in their bowl.

The connection between "Memphis" and "Fed Ex" isn't what it is billed to be. That being said, I'm good with adding Memphis...but not when there are bigger fish in play.

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

Uconn already has made their intentions known. They considered the AAC "too far away" to keep their fans interested...how would playing in a retooled Big XII be any different?

I could see Uconn jumping at an ACC invitation, but beyond that, I think Uconn is happily ensconced in the Big East.

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

UConn's highest attended home game in 2022 was only 25,500. lowest attendance 12,000. Those are really bad numbers when talking about great fan base.

(02-03-2023 07:22 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

Uconn already has made their intentions known. They considered the AAC "too far away" to keep their fans interested...how would playing in a retooled Big XII be any different?

I could see Uconn jumping at an ACC invitation, but beyond that, I think Uconn is happily ensconced in the Big East.

There’s a big difference between playing Oklahoma St and Tulsa in terms of fan interest. I would guess that UConn administration would see more peer schools in the XII then in the aac

Jackson

(02-03-2023 08:14 PM)Endless Purple Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

UConn's highest attended home game in 2022 was only 25,500. lowest attendance 12,000. Those are really bad numbers when talking about great fan base.

No doubt but look at how terrible the schedule was too. I see UConn as another Kansas. Now UConn basketball is not exactly the bluest of the blue bloods like KU is but there are a lot of similarities. Get the right coach/with a competitive team and they will draw fine in football as they did in the big East. The academics, market, brand and men’s/women’s bball programs have to get it in the conversation. Again I see a lot of XII traits in uconn

Jackson

(02-03-2023 08:37 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 08:14 PM)Endless Purple Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

UConn's highest attended home game in 2022 was only 25,500. lowest attendance 12,000. Those are really bad numbers when talking about great fan base.

No doubt but look at how terrible the schedule was too. I see UConn as another Kansas. Now UConn basketball is not exactly the bluest of the blue bloods like KU is but there are a lot of similarities. Get the right coach/with a competitive team and they will draw fine in football as they did in the big East. The academics, market, brand and men’s/women’s bball programs have to get it in the conversation. Again I see a lot of XII traits in uconn

Jackson

I tend to agree. Most on here do not however. I think UConn could be just like Kansas with some investment into football. I’d prefer them over San Diego State or Boise.

No more schools in one sport only. NO to Gonzaga . The only expansion the big 12 should do is add Pac 12 schools when that becomes an option

I think Gonzaga would be all sports minus football

(02-05-2023 08:20 AM)Huan Wrote:  I think Gonzaga would be all sports minus football

correct

(02-05-2023 09:23 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(02-05-2023 08:20 AM)Huan Wrote:  I think Gonzaga would be all sports minus football

correct

The only two sports that matter are college football and Men’s college basketball

(02-03-2023 08:37 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 08:14 PM)Endless Purple Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

UConn's highest attended home game in 2022 was only 25,500. lowest attendance 12,000. Those are really bad numbers when talking about great fan base.

No doubt but look at how terrible the schedule was too. I see UConn as another Kansas. Now UConn basketball is not exactly the bluest of the blue bloods like KU is but there are a lot of similarities. Get the right coach/with a competitive team and they will draw fine in football as they did in the big East. The academics, market, brand and men’s/women’s bball programs have to get it in the conversation. Again I see a lot of XII traits in uconn

Jackson

Will simply have to disagree on UConn. In May of 2020, their 5 year average was still under 23,000. So just getting the right coach and a competitive team is asking a lot for a team that has maybe 1 10-win season in its history. Add in their much further location from the rest of the Big 12 (500 miles further east than WVU), ie no local fans of other schools, and it seems to really be pushing it.

(02-05-2023 08:20 AM)Huan Wrote:  I think Gonzaga would be all sports minus football

Ssshhhh...

Don't let facts get in the way of argument.

(02-03-2023 07:22 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

Uconn already has made their intentions known. They considered the AAC "too far away" to keep their fans interested...how would playing in a retooled Big XII be any different?

I could see Uconn jumping at an ACC invitation, but beyond that, I think Uconn is happily ensconced in the Big East.

I agree with Jerry on this. Cincinnati was in two conferences with UConn. They are not committed to football. Its been one of the worst 5 FBS programs in the country for over a decade for a reason. Football in the northeast, with the exception of PSU, is on the serious downtrend. There isn't a ton of homegrown talent in Connecticut and its surrounding states and if they get a kid from New Jersey, PA, or Maryland its probably after about a dozen other schools passed on him first.

The whole "poor UConn did poorly in the AAC because they had to play Tulsa" is overstated. Truth is they struggled because they could not match up physically with the grittier, more athletic football players at those "city and directional" schools. They were softer than Charmin-- for a decade.

I hated when we played UConn in FB because the game was relegated to ESPN+ or in the AAC it was CBS Sports Network. Nobody in the northeast cares about UConn FB. There are more people on this whole message board that root for another school who thinks UConn has great FB potential than there is in Connecticut.

Sorry to go on and on.... I know what I saw from 2011-present and it wasn't good.

I am against a bball only add like Gonzaga. It complicates things and a similar add in the AAC, WSU, has done nothing and was pointless.

The only way I would support Gonzaga if they were a requirement add in order to guarantee the 4 C's coming along with or without Oregon and Washington. Outside of them being a vital piece to close the deal, I say NO GO.

(02-06-2023 10:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 07:22 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 04:46 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  

(02-03-2023 02:58 PM)CYOWA Wrote:  Memphis has a similar basketball pedigree AND a football program. Not to mention elite facilities with FedEx sponsorship. How is that not more attractive than Gonzaga? Yormark's really got a boner for the Western time zone.

I really think UConn should be looked at in the future. It’s a state school, has a great fan base and basketball is important.

Jackson

Uconn already has made their intentions known. They considered the AAC "too far away" to keep their fans interested...how would playing in a retooled Big XII be any different?

I could see Uconn jumping at an ACC invitation, but beyond that, I think Uconn is happily ensconced in the Big East.

I agree with Jerry on this. Cincinnati was in two conferences with UConn. They are not committed to football. Its been one of the worst 5 FBS programs in the country for over a decade for a reason. Football in the northeast, with the exception of PSU, is on the serious downtrend. There isn't a ton of homegrown talent in Connecticut and its surrounding states and if they get a kid from New Jersey, PA, or Maryland its probably after about a dozen other schools passed on him first.

The whole "poor UConn did poorly in the AAC because they had to play Tulsa" is overstated. Truth is they struggled because they could not match up physically with the grittier, more athletic football players at those "city and directional" schools. They were softer than Charmin-- for a decade.

I hated when we played UConn in FB because the game was relegated to ESPN+ or in the AAC it was CBS Sports Network. Nobody in the northeast cares about UConn FB. There are more people on this whole message board that root for another school who thinks UConn has great FB potential than there is in Connecticut.

Sorry to go on and on.... I know what I saw from 2011-present and it wasn't good.

UConn, which has its home stadium 20.1 miles away in East Hartford. The distance is tied with Miami (FL) for the second-longest between a school’s campus and its football stadium, behind just UCLA, as the Rose Bowl is 26.2 miles from Westwood.

(02-03-2023 06:14 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(02-02-2023 09:01 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(02-02-2023 07:46 AM)dave108 Wrote:  

(02-01-2023 11:42 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Gonzaga has been a tremendous basketball program for quite sometime now but can they really maintain their level of success vs stiffer Big12 competition on a regular basis!?! I’m sorry but I’m having a hard time believing Gonzaga will hold their basketball dominance if they join the Big12.

i'm still seeing / thinking WSU to the 'merican. came in strong, then leveled off, mainly with a coaching change - what happens to Gonzaga when Mark Few decides to hang 'em up? But, I can see why the B12 is interested. If it happens, so be it.

Where were you on banter when I said the same thing and the know-it-all mob on there ganged up on me like a bunch of third graders???

i don't spend all day on these sites. i do a quick check, maybe twice a day. I've got this thing, called a life, that somehow gets in the way But, yeah, the herd does seem to trash anyone who posts anything slightly different than what their mods seem to tell them.

Believe me, it’s not nearly as bad as it used to be. The Gruehls gang was the brutal guardian of uni-thought.