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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
(02-01-2023 09:09 PM)cc22 Wrote:  These are the games I think need to be protected going forward:

All in-Texas games
All former Big 8 opponents
WVU-UC-UCF

Conference doesn't have a ton of rivalries, they can at least keep the games with history

For the record I'm speaking primarily about football in this case:

Quite frankly, I figured that if there were ever a time for WVU and Cincinnati to be rivals, it would have been after 2008 and 2009 when the Bearcats contended with the Mountaineers for a Big East title. I don't think either school dislikes or has a passionate dislike for each other in order for it to be a rivalry. Perhaps that could change in the Big 12, but the two teams haven't had nearly as much time to become dead hard rivals. WVU and Cincinnati played each other infrequently before Big East 2.0 (2005-2012). Cincinnati's first victory over WVU was in 2003, an upset victory that I remember people being very unhappy about 20 years ago.

I want to say that UCF could offer potential for a rivalry in this conference, but it ultimately depends. I would have considered USF a rival for WVU with how often they knocked us off, and I remember fans of USF referring to us as such in the mid-2000's. Many WVU fans didn't see it or even agree. Traditionally, WVU does not fare well against Florida teams and their football record in the state of Florida is even worse. If UCF and WVU have very competitive games year in and year out, I could see it being close to how USF was for the Mountaineer program: A perennial thorn in WVU's side. However, I don't know if either Cincinnati or even UCF can replace the likes of Pitt, Maryland, Syracuse, or Virginia Tech.

WVU played those teams annually for so many years that it's ingrained in the faithful that those teams are forever going to be our "arch rivals." I don't see Cincinnati or even UCF making those impressions on West Virginia. I could be wrong, but the fanbases share no animosity toward each other. Pitt/WVU often has passion behind it, Syracuse has history, and Maryland and Virginia Tech were regularly competing with the program for recruits. All except for Syracuse were next door neighbors. Oddly enough, WVU has yet to find a program in Ohio that would be deemed a rival, as I feel they should have more teams to fill that hole than Kentucky would.

By the way...does anybody remember when fans of WVU first tried to establish a rivalry with Iowa State since they were the closest school to Morgantown? It was dubbed the "Riot Bowl" in the early days. It didn't go anywhere, and it still doesn't feel like a rivalry despite how the series has evened out.
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02-04-2023 08:02 PM
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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
I’m not a huge fan of “rivalry week” just because there are a limited number of time windows on a given Saturday. I’m not much for flipping back and forth on two games I’m really interested in - I prefer having a prime interest game and then a casual interest game or two for commercial breaks. I’d be fine with us spreading good inventory throughout the schedule.
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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
(02-05-2023 12:05 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  I’m not a huge fan of “rivalry week” just because there are a limited number of time windows on a given Saturday. I’m not much for flipping back and forth on two games I’m really interested in - I prefer having a prime interest game and then a casual interest game or two for commercial breaks. I’d be fine with us spreading good inventory throughout the schedule.
But they spread the games out over two days... Black Friday and Saturday. Ton more timeslots to be able to watch these rivalries.

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02-06-2023 08:18 PM
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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
(02-01-2023 10:10 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  
(01-31-2023 10:35 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(01-31-2023 10:01 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  
(01-31-2023 09:51 PM)cc22 Wrote:  Big 12 doesn't really do rivalry weekend, I think they prefer to space them out. (And there's not a ton of blood rivalries remaining)

Speaking of "space", the UH @ UCF game in the final week (Nov 25) needs to be some sort of Space Shootout theme! HAS TO BE!!

Make it happen! 02-13-banana

Yeah, I guess Houston needs a new rivalry now that Tulsa's gone...

Not sure if anything can truly replace "Teh Rivalry". 100-6!!!

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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
(02-05-2023 12:05 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  I’m not a huge fan of “rivalry week” just because there are a limited number of time windows on a given Saturday. I’m not much for flipping back and forth on two games I’m really interested in - I prefer having a prime interest game and then a casual interest game or two for commercial breaks. I’d be fine with us spreading good inventory throughout the schedule.

I agree with this to a point. There is definitely some value in spreading out our rivalries through the season, but that Thanksgiving weekend is the time of year that even casual college football fans know rivalry games are getting played. It seems like a missed opportunity to not at least try to showcase some of the bigger B12 rivalries that weekend. The Big 12 has pretty much abandoned rivalry weekend which is a shame.
02-07-2023 07:39 AM
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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
Seems a rivalry requires:

1. Longevity
2. Competitiveness
3. Proximity helps
4. Being very similar or very unsimilar.

UC has the most longevity with UH then UCF and WVU. We have been competitive with each to some extent.

OOC we once had a big rivalry with The Miami Redskins. Only 40 miles away. Split households. Big urban school vs college towners. That rivalry is dead to a degree. No competition as we have won 16 straight.
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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
i just want west virginia to accept us

as for hoops, us bearcats have some history with iowa state. 2-2 since the mid 90's i believe with iowa state winning the only game that really mattered. all close games except when kenyon and em smoked fizer and em

i don't think the lean years will be as bad as folks make it out to seem; i mean, like iowa state could turn a program around overnight; in every direction. the big twelve is so good at hoops that ironically, tech is mediocre
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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
The thing with UC and WVU in the big East is they both had a bigger rival on the conference. Pittsburgh for WVU and Louisville for UC.
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RE: In Conference Rivalry Matchups?
(02-07-2023 07:39 AM)HornFrogFan Wrote:  
(02-05-2023 12:05 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote:  I’m not a huge fan of “rivalry week” just because there are a limited number of time windows on a given Saturday. I’m not much for flipping back and forth on two games I’m really interested in - I prefer having a prime interest game and then a casual interest game or two for commercial breaks. I’d be fine with us spreading good inventory throughout the schedule.

I agree with this to a point. There is definitely some value in spreading out our rivalries through the season, but that Thanksgiving weekend is the time of year that even casual college football fans know rivalry games are getting played. It seems like a missed opportunity to not at least try to showcase some of the bigger B12 rivalries that weekend. The Big 12 has pretty much abandoned rivalry weekend which is a shame.
I’d like to go back in KU history and return to starting our season with who was for many years our traditional first game of the season opponent. 04-cheers
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