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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-26-2023 04:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 04:33 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 04:01 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 03:59 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  Ruin has positioned us in mediocrity land and destroyed our brand which used to produce exciting football, now, it's countless double digits leads blown, losing conference records, and 2 road wins in the AAC the past 2 seasons. Join the Revolution!

What if he were to log nine wins next year? Would you still feel the same way? Not saying he will, but it isn't impossible.

Nine regular season wins is the minimum for next season based on our schedule and assembled talent level. If we win nine games and in the conference title hunt, I think that is progress, and should be expected at this point. We have the luxury of having our more difficult conference opponents all at home this season and we should be able to handle our away conference schedule without being upset, I think we'll be double digit favorites in every road conference game, UAB may be the outlier, but we'll be a 7+ point favorite in that one.

6-6 is bad, and we cannot continue to maintain that status. We've come too far to regress at this point and need to build up our brand once again. We have all the tools in place to lead our conference, I'm worried the one we're missing is what is right between our head coach's ears during the 60 minutes on the field we witness every week. I hope I am proven wrong and he knocks it out of the park this season, he has been given enough time, it's now time to produce results and I think everyone tends to agree on that last part that it's time to win on the field. He is winning off the field but that MUST translate to victories on the field this season or it's time to move on.

I agree with most all of this-------however-- the part about winning off the field I disagree .

*winning off the field with recruiting, grades, etc.

I’ll clarify and say he is not winning off the field energizing the fanbase. Norvell was the best at selling the program. Ruin has closed off the program and does a horrible job promoting it, which at Memphis, is a big part of the job. If you close it off you better win big or it turns into what we’re presently dealing with.
01-26-2023 05:31 PM
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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-26-2023 04:50 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 04:21 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  8 wins (not counting bowl) and a winning conference record may do it.
If he does that, he's probably in the CCG hunt late in the season.
If I were him, I'd go ahead and win a 9th one though.
A lot will depend on attendance - and I'm not optimistic on that front.

That one is tougher to resolve, especially with attendance trends heading the wrong direction nationally. I'm not sure any coach could genuinely address that challenge in a single season.

True enough. But Ryan generates zero community energy on his own. So with potential attendees, it all comes down to on field performance.
And it's not really a single season with Ryan. Attendance has been heading this way, and I'm afraid it takes a big drop next year.
The right coach can stem the tide somewhat.
01-26-2023 06:14 PM
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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-25-2023 03:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
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(01-25-2023 01:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 01:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 01:17 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Silverfield has gotten the Tigers bowl-eligible in all three seasons, but there's been a notable step back from the level of conference championship contention that he experienced as an assistant under Mike Norvell. With some questions swirling at the end of 2022, Silverfield got a vote of confidence from the administration as he leads Memphis into the new era as an American Athletic Conference member. Now that Cincinnati, Houston and UCF are gone, there are open spots at the top of the league that Memphis will be expected to fill. A sub-.500 record in conference play (11-13) won't cut it anymore.

Grade: C

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...re-with-f/

They aren't wrong.

The "grading" is quite generous considering RS has coached his teams to losing records in the AAC over the last 2 seasons finishing 6th & 7th in-conference. But somehow those finishes translate to Memphis being expected to fill the void left by those schools who actually have completed for championships over the last two seasons but are leaving for the B12.
Hum, Tulane winning the Cotton Bowl showed they are going to be tough, UTSA is very good and SMU is getting some very high-rated players from the transfer portal. This is not a weak conference that Memphis can automatically dominate by any means.

That's my point, even with Cincy, UCF & UH (all who have beaten us under RS) leaving, I'm not seeing anything that suggests confidence that Memphis can replace the B-12 departures to actually compete against Tulane, USA & SMU. I hope we can but have my doubts based on what RS' have shown the last two seasons. Further, if having a losing record in-conference meets a minimum std, we'll, over time settle for being bowl eligible as acceptable performance without competing for titles.

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01-26-2023 08:13 PM
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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-26-2023 06:14 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 04:50 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-26-2023 04:21 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  8 wins (not counting bowl) and a winning conference record may do it.
If he does that, he's probably in the CCG hunt late in the season.
If I were him, I'd go ahead and win a 9th one though.
A lot will depend on attendance - and I'm not optimistic on that front.

That one is tougher to resolve, especially with attendance trends heading the wrong direction nationally. I'm not sure any coach could genuinely address that challenge in a single season.

True enough. But Ryan generates zero community energy on his own. So with potential attendees, it all comes down to on field performance.
And it's not really a single season with Ryan. Attendance has been heading this way, and I'm afraid it takes a big drop next year.
The right coach can stem the tide somewhat.

Certainly helps if you can evangelize the team if you can't win the games, that's for sure.
01-26-2023 09:15 PM
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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-25-2023 09:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 08:44 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Him totally blowing it against Houston and going for it on 4th and 26 against UCF in the middle of the fourth qtr in a tie game is all I need

C-

Only reason it's not lower is because we went and dominated our Bowl Game

Look who we played----the BIG K would have dominated them

You go ahead and give him a pass, he's lost all goodwill with me
01-26-2023 09:33 PM
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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-26-2023 03:27 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  
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(01-25-2023 04:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 04:03 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 03:57 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  That's my point, even with Cincy, UCF & UH (all who have beaten us under RS) leaving, I'm not seeing anything that suggests confidence that Memphis can replace the B-12 departures to actually compete against Tulane, USA & SMU. I hope we can but have my doubts based on what RS' have shown the last two seasons. Further, if having a losing record in-conference meets a minimum std, we'll, over time settle for being bowl eligible as acceptable performance without competing for titles.
Let me add to my sentence....This is not a weak conference that Memphis can automatically domiante by any means..... even if Mike Norvell was still our coach.

Norvell would dominate this weak conference --IMO
Look at the 2018 schedule how weak it was. 8-6

You always move the goalposts. The true record was 8-4. He then lost to an UNDEFEATED UCF in the championship game and then a P5 team Wake Forest in the bowl game. 2 things Silverfield has never done. A. Been to a championship game and B. Played a P5 team in a bowl game. But hey you do you.

Now, hold up. That loss to Wake was definitely Silverfield-esk. I was there in person to see the blown lead.
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It's rough when the coach's name becomes an adjective.
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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-26-2023 09:33 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 09:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 08:44 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Him totally blowing it against Houston and going for it on 4th and 26 against UCF in the middle of the fourth qtr in a tie game is all I need

C-

Only reason it's not lower is because we went and dominated our Bowl Game

Look who we played----the BIG K would have dominated them

You go ahead and give him a pass, he's lost all goodwill with me

HUH ?---How did you come up with that ?--The poster said we dominated the bowl-------I said that the BIG K would have dominated that team

He lost all goodwill with me too --a long time ago
01-26-2023 10:09 PM
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RE: Grading Silverfield
(01-25-2023 03:09 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 02:23 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 01:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 01:25 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-25-2023 01:17 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Silverfield has gotten the Tigers bowl-eligible in all three seasons, but there's been a notable step back from the level of conference championship contention that he experienced as an assistant under Mike Norvell. With some questions swirling at the end of 2022, Silverfield got a vote of confidence from the administration as he leads Memphis into the new era as an American Athletic Conference member. Now that Cincinnati, Houston and UCF are gone, there are open spots at the top of the league that Memphis will be expected to fill. A sub-.500 record in conference play (11-13) won't cut it anymore.

Grade: C

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...re-with-f/

They aren't wrong.

The "grading" is quite generous considering RS has coached his teams to losing records in the AAC over the last 2 seasons finishing 6th & 7th in-conference. But somehow those finishes translate to Memphis being expected to fill the void left by those schools who actually have completed for championships over the last two seasons but are leaving for the B12.
Hum, Tulane winning the Cotton Bowl showed they are going to be tough, UTSA is very good and SMU is getting some very high-rated players from the transfer portal. This is not a weak conference that Memphis can automatically dominate by any means.

I disagree about it not being a weak conference----but I agree about R.S. automatically dominating by any means .......however because of the weakness of the entire schedule----he most certainly should dominate---------------but lets start with the excuses now

Bless your heart. You don't recognize the truth, but you are sure big on your misperceptions. IMO CRS has earned a D- so far, but there are some signs of improvement and moxie. He might just take a big jump next season. I am hoping so. We have seen what superior coaching can do here. The reason Novel was superior was his courage not necessarily his knowledge. He is doing pretty well in the ACC also.
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01-28-2023 04:47 AM
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C for this past year but the job will require an A for next season. We need to be in the conference championship game.
01-28-2023 10:36 AM
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(01-28-2023 10:36 AM)Capn Munford Wrote:  C for this past year but the job will require an A for next season. We need to be in the conference championship game.

I agree with the "C" because of the bowl games every season, but I could live with a "B" as long as it transitions to an "A" for subsequent seasons.
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