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(01-12-2023 09:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-12-2023 09:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:41 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not certain but more positive language about State support for SBLB and FEF funding.

Tn Speaker of House Cameron Sexton interview-

Sexton: Liberty Bowl and FedExForum are used by the University of Memphis, so my big thing is trying to help them get into a power five conference. There are certain things that those conferences said that you have to upgrade, like minimum required upgrades. It'd be great for Memphis to be in the power five because that would help Tennessee and Memphis grow. The upgrades at FedEx would also help the Grizzlies, but they are not asking for a rebuild. It's all remodeling. We've done this at Neyland Stadium and a lot of different remodeling for colleges before.

Interesting that even the politicians understand that Memphis was told that facilities investment was required...

Interesting that our genius fans don't understand that the Big 12 has always understood that a facilities investment has always been the plan.

Quote:We learned that Memphis president M. David Rudd not only wrote a letter to Gee, but University of Oklahoma president David Boren and Baylor president Ken Starr, among others, while pledging a $500 million investment in athletics and academics over a five-year span.

But the fire came in the form of a letter from FedEx Chairman Fred Smith saying that the company would be a willing benefactor up to and including sponsoring a Big 12 championship game.

Never mind that Memphis would never play in such a football game, this commitment echoed back to that old FedEx slogan. It felt, in some measure, like a guarantee that one of the best companies in the world would now have the conference’s back.

So is it a game-changer?

There in black and white for anyone brighter than Atlanta.

Rudd Promises $500 Million

Then ESPN said NO.
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(01-12-2023 03:59 PM)micman Wrote:  
(01-12-2023 09:43 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-12-2023 09:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 12:41 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Not certain but more positive language about State support for SBLB and FEF funding.

Tn Speaker of House Cameron Sexton interview-

Sexton: Liberty Bowl and FedExForum are used by the University of Memphis, so my big thing is trying to help them get into a power five conference. There are certain things that those conferences said that you have to upgrade, like minimum required upgrades. It'd be great for Memphis to be in the power five because that would help Tennessee and Memphis grow. The upgrades at FedEx would also help the Grizzlies, but they are not asking for a rebuild. It's all remodeling. We've done this at Neyland Stadium and a lot of different remodeling for colleges before.

Interesting that even the politicians understand that Memphis was told that facilities investment was required...

Interesting that our genius fans don't understand that the Big 12 has always understood that a facilities investment has always been the plan.

Quote:We learned that Memphis president M. David Rudd not only wrote a letter to Gee, but University of Oklahoma president David Boren and Baylor president Ken Starr, among others, while pledging a $500 million investment in athletics and academics over a five-year span.

But the fire came in the form of a letter from FedEx Chairman Fred Smith saying that the company would be a willing benefactor up to and including sponsoring a Big 12 championship game.

Never mind that Memphis would never play in such a football game, this commitment echoed back to that old FedEx slogan. It felt, in some measure, like a guarantee that one of the best companies in the world would now have the conference’s back.

So is it a game-changer?

There in black and white for anyone brighter than Atlanta.

Rudd Promises $500 Million

Then ESPN said NO.

Then Texas politics and ESPN said no. But before that Rudd was told, yes.
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(01-12-2023 04:00 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

Atlanta told everyone that we had no communication with the state. What a bozo.
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(01-12-2023 04:05 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-12-2023 04:00 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

Atlanta told everyone that we had no communication with the state. What a bozo.

Lol. Spot on
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Money is going to be coming. They’re just wrapping it up.
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(01-11-2023 09:07 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 07:46 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:13 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 01:46 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 01:03 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  I don't usually like politicians but this one has my full support in providing more public funds for Memphis Tigers football facilities which will help the Memphis Tigers get into a P5 conference.

UT grad through and through, but saying all the right things. Let's hope this works out.

According to Claw, this guys knows nothing about conferences and what it takes to elevate.

I was misunderstood then. I contend this guy knows nothing about the history of the Liberty Bowl stadium, the feasibility of an on-campus stadium, or the fans desire for an on-campus stadium. He doesn't know ANYTHING about an on-campus stadium because no one in the Memphis political delegation is mentioning it. They are all in lock-step for upgrading the Liberty Bowl. There is NO ONE in Nashville lobbying for an OCS. Not our football coach. Not our AD. Not our President. Not our Board of Regents. Not our press. Not our boosters. Not even Tigger himself.

You need to re-up your meds. You have completely lost your marbles.

Yeah maybe what has gone on behind the scenes most do not know about:

1) Our guys did meet with the state guys to work to get funding for an OCS, we were told no funding for OCS but funding for upgrade to LB.
2) We then went to the only 2 guys who could make a OCS happen both said "pass"
3) President lobbied
4) AD lobbied
5) Coach lobbied
6) They all wanted it
7) State no
8) Our 2 guys ( one being corporate one being a basketball guy) said "no"
9) There is no ultra wealthy football guy only
10) There is a ultra wealthy basketball buy
11) There is a ultra corporate donor
12) That is it

End result, happy to get the funding we are getting for now.

We did all we could to get funding for OCS. Unless anyone wants to step up and write the check, that really is all it takes. We simply do not have those guys/girls.

We are way behind most other schools w ultra wealthy supporters.

Our programs have to be built with high ROI based on strategic investments, which in and of itself brings about many challenges.
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RE: Funding for SBLB and FEF renovation
(01-12-2023 07:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 09:07 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 07:46 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:13 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 01:46 PM)Stammers Wrote:  UT grad through and through, but saying all the right things. Let's hope this works out.

According to Claw, this guys knows nothing about conferences and what it takes to elevate.

I was misunderstood then. I contend this guy knows nothing about the history of the Liberty Bowl stadium, the feasibility of an on-campus stadium, or the fans desire for an on-campus stadium. He doesn't know ANYTHING about an on-campus stadium because no one in the Memphis political delegation is mentioning it. They are all in lock-step for upgrading the Liberty Bowl. There is NO ONE in Nashville lobbying for an OCS. Not our football coach. Not our AD. Not our President. Not our Board of Regents. Not our press. Not our boosters. Not even Tigger himself.

You need to re-up your meds. You have completely lost your marbles.

Yeah maybe what has gone on behind the scenes most do not know about:

1) Our guys did meet with the state guys to work to get funding for an OCS, we were told no funding for OCS but funding for upgrade to LB.
2) We then went to the only 2 guys who could make a OCS happen both said "pass"
3) President lobbied
4) AD lobbied
5) Coach lobbied
6) They all wanted it
7) State no
8) Our 2 guys ( one being corporate one being a basketball guy) said "no"
9) There is no ultra wealthy football guy only
10) There is a ultra wealthy basketball buy
11) There is a ultra corporate donor
12) That is it

End result, happy to get the funding we are getting for now.

We did all we could to get funding for OCS. Unless anyone wants to step up and write the check, that really is all it takes. We simply do not have those guys/girls.

We are way behind most other schools w ultra wealthy supporters.

Our programs have to be built with high ROI based on strategic investments, which in and of itself brings about many challenges.

Thanks for the update.
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RE: Funding for SBLB and FEF renovation
(01-12-2023 07:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 09:07 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 07:46 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:13 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 01:46 PM)Stammers Wrote:  UT grad through and through, but saying all the right things. Let's hope this works out.

According to Claw, this guys knows nothing about conferences and what it takes to elevate.

I was misunderstood then. I contend this guy knows nothing about the history of the Liberty Bowl stadium, the feasibility of an on-campus stadium, or the fans desire for an on-campus stadium. He doesn't know ANYTHING about an on-campus stadium because no one in the Memphis political delegation is mentioning it. They are all in lock-step for upgrading the Liberty Bowl. There is NO ONE in Nashville lobbying for an OCS. Not our football coach. Not our AD. Not our President. Not our Board of Regents. Not our press. Not our boosters. Not even Tigger himself.

You need to re-up your meds. You have completely lost your marbles.

Yeah maybe what has gone on behind the scenes most do not know about:

1) Our guys did meet with the state guys to work to get funding for an OCS, we were told no funding for OCS but funding for upgrade to LB.
2) We then went to the only 2 guys who could make a OCS happen both said "pass"
3) President lobbied
4) AD lobbied
5) Coach lobbied
6) They all wanted it
7) State no
8) Our 2 guys ( one being corporate one being a basketball guy) said "no"
9) There is no ultra wealthy football guy only
10) There is a ultra wealthy basketball buy
11) There is a ultra corporate donor
12) That is it

End result, happy to get the funding we are getting for now.

We did all we could to get funding for OCS. Unless anyone wants to step up and write the check, that really is all it takes. We simply do not have those guys/girls.

We are way behind most other schools w ultra wealthy supporters.

Our programs have to be built with high ROI based on strategic investments, which in and of itself brings about many challenges.

Interesting, but contradictory to what our president expressed during his visit to Atlanta late last fall but after the LB renovation was announced. He clearly indicated he accepted recommendations about the LB being the most feasible but '... was still getting his feet on the ground and had not been to Nashville to discuss stadium funding & with LB approach decided had no reason to since the LB was city property'.
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(01-12-2023 07:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  1) Our guys did meet with the state guys to work to get funding for an OCS, we were told no funding for OCS but funding for upgrade to LB.

I can't remember if the reason for this was ever provided. But if it was does anyone remember why the OCS was a no, but the LB was ok?
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(01-13-2023 12:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-12-2023 07:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 09:07 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 07:46 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:13 PM)msu35 Wrote:  According to Claw, this guys knows nothing about conferences and what it takes to elevate.

I was misunderstood then. I contend this guy knows nothing about the history of the Liberty Bowl stadium, the feasibility of an on-campus stadium, or the fans desire for an on-campus stadium. He doesn't know ANYTHING about an on-campus stadium because no one in the Memphis political delegation is mentioning it. They are all in lock-step for upgrading the Liberty Bowl. There is NO ONE in Nashville lobbying for an OCS. Not our football coach. Not our AD. Not our President. Not our Board of Regents. Not our press. Not our boosters. Not even Tigger himself.

You need to re-up your meds. You have completely lost your marbles.

Yeah maybe what has gone on behind the scenes most do not know about:

1) Our guys did meet with the state guys to work to get funding for an OCS, we were told no funding for OCS but funding for upgrade to LB.
2) We then went to the only 2 guys who could make a OCS happen both said "pass"
3) President lobbied
4) AD lobbied
5) Coach lobbied
6) They all wanted it
7) State no
8) Our 2 guys ( one being corporate one being a basketball guy) said "no"
9) There is no ultra wealthy football guy only
10) There is a ultra wealthy basketball buy
11) There is a ultra corporate donor
12) That is it

End result, happy to get the funding we are getting for now.

We did all we could to get funding for OCS. Unless anyone wants to step up and write the check, that really is all it takes. We simply do not have those guys/girls.

We are way behind most other schools w ultra wealthy supporters.

Our programs have to be built with high ROI based on strategic investments, which in and of itself brings about many challenges.

Interesting, but contradictory to what our president expressed during his visit to Atlanta late last fall but after the LB renovation was announced. He clearly indicated he accepted recommendations about the LB being the most feasible but '... was still getting his feet on the ground and had not been to Nashville to discuss stadium funding & with LB approach decided had no reason to since the LB was city property'.

Caught saying nonsense, now lying. What a clown.
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(01-13-2023 12:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Interesting, but contradictory to what our president expressed during his visit to Atlanta late last fall but after the LB renovation was announced. He clearly indicated he accepted recommendations about the LB being the most feasible but '... was still getting his feet on the ground and had not been to Nashville to discuss stadium funding & with LB approach decided had no reason to since the LB was city property'.

Is it possible that you are completely misinterpreting whatever the president said just like you misinterpreted the communications from the AD?
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(01-13-2023 10:37 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-13-2023 12:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Interesting, but contradictory to what our president expressed during his visit to Atlanta late last fall but after the LB renovation was announced. He clearly indicated he accepted recommendations about the LB being the most feasible but '... was still getting his feet on the ground and had not been to Nashville to discuss stadium funding & with LB approach decided had no reason to since the LB was city property'.

Is it possible that you are completely misinterpreting whatever the president said just like you misinterpreted the communications from the AD?

He said that nobody had ever contacted the state...BUT also argued vigorously against himself and said that Rudd had go to the state. He also said that the school would have to fund all of it, there would be no money, and it wouldn't get done.

Completely clueless.
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(01-13-2023 10:37 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-13-2023 12:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Interesting, but contradictory to what our president expressed during his visit to Atlanta late last fall but after the LB renovation was announced. He clearly indicated he accepted recommendations about the LB being the most feasible but '... was still getting his feet on the ground and had not been to Nashville to discuss stadium funding & with LB approach decided had no reason to since the LB was city property'.

Is it possible that you are completely misinterpreting whatever the president said just like you misinterpreted the communications from the AD?

It wasn't a private conversation, it was a Q&A session as part of a breakfast with a substantial number of university supporters in attendance. The communication was quite clear. Do you not get the approach on this forum by some? It's always "behind the scenes", or 3rd party or generalized - "our guys" (I've got information you don't have, etc) that many times turns out inaccurate - like Memphis being 2nd behind Cincy for a B12 invite indeed as based upon 'behind the scenes info'. My question would be what is the necessity of "behind the scenes", what exactly are the lobbying attempts & with whom? And ask yourself what would be the necessity or benefit of behind the scenes anyway? Our president also repeated several times at that breakfast that he had no ability to seek state funding for a municipal project - i.e., the LB renovation since it was city-owned & as such the city would have to seek the funding (which we since know is what happened). My info is first-hand & it seems to directly contradicts Griffin's post. And I'll add, I didn't misunderstand anything from the AD, in his words "... minimum std..." with the understanding he & the admin wanted better in the future, to pursue championships etc. But understand it was enough for RS to keep his job after two yrs of meeting that "minimum std" with losing records in the very conference where competing for championships is desired
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(01-12-2023 07:47 PM)griffin Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 09:07 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-11-2023 07:46 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 02:13 PM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-10-2023 01:46 PM)Stammers Wrote:  UT grad through and through, but saying all the right things. Let's hope this works out.

According to Claw, this guys knows nothing about conferences and what it takes to elevate.

I was misunderstood then. I contend this guy knows nothing about the history of the Liberty Bowl stadium, the feasibility of an on-campus stadium, or the fans desire for an on-campus stadium. He doesn't know ANYTHING about an on-campus stadium because no one in the Memphis political delegation is mentioning it. They are all in lock-step for upgrading the Liberty Bowl. There is NO ONE in Nashville lobbying for an OCS. Not our football coach. Not our AD. Not our President. Not our Board of Regents. Not our press. Not our boosters. Not even Tigger himself.

You need to re-up your meds. You have completely lost your marbles.

Yeah maybe what has gone on behind the scenes most do not know about:

1) Our guys did meet with the state guys to work to get funding for an OCS, we were told no funding for OCS but funding for upgrade to LB.
2) We then went to the only 2 guys who could make a OCS happen both said "pass"
3) President lobbied
4) AD lobbied
5) Coach lobbied
6) They all wanted it
7) State no
8) Our 2 guys ( one being corporate one being a basketball guy) said "no"
9) There is no ultra wealthy football guy only
10) There is a ultra wealthy basketball buy
11) There is a ultra corporate donor
12) That is it

End result, happy to get the funding we are getting for now.

We did all we could to get funding for OCS. Unless anyone wants to step up and write the check, that really is all it takes. We simply do not have those guys/girls.

We are way behind most other schools w ultra wealthy supporters.

Our programs have to be built with high ROI based on strategic investments, which in and of itself brings about many challenges.

They are going to continue to lose support unless that is made public.

That is simply the lay of the land.
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(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  It wasn't a private conversation, it was a Q&A session as part of a breakfast with a substantial number of university supporters in attendance. The communication was quite clear.

I understand, but you and I have very different interpretations of the AD's emails regarding the team. That's why I asked.

(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Do you not get the approach on this forum by some? It's always "behind the scenes", or 3rd party or generalized - "our guys" (I've got information you don't have, etc) that many times turns out inaccurate - like Memphis being 2nd behind Cincy for a B12 invite indeed as based upon 'behind the scenes info'. My question would be what is the necessity of "behind the scenes", what exactly are the lobbying attempts & with whom? And ask yourself what would be the necessity or benefit of behind the scenes anyway?

That's how it works. Deals are typically worked out behind the scenes and when everything's squared away, then you let everyone else know. It's the same in government and in business. Public statements oftentimes are meaningless outside of trying to sway opinion to a desired conclusion.

(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Our president also repeated several times at that breakfast that he had no ability to seek state funding for a municipal project - i.e., the LB renovation since it was city-owned & as such the city would have to seek the funding (which we since know is what happened). My info is first-hand & it seems to directly contradicts Griffin's post

Without direct quotes, it's difficult to agree with you based on our disagreement with the interpretation of the comments from the AD regarding our program, as a point of reference.

(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  And I'll add, I didn't misunderstand anything from the AD, in his words "... minimum std..." with the understanding he & the admin wanted better in the future, to pursue championships etc. But understand it was enough for RS to keep his job after two yrs of meeting that "minimum std" with losing records in the very conference where competing for championships is desired

See what I mean?
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(01-13-2023 11:49 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  It wasn't a private conversation, it was a Q&A session as part of a breakfast with a substantial number of university supporters in attendance. The communication was quite clear.

I understand, but you and I have very different interpretations of the AD's emails regarding the team. That's why I asked.

(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Do you not get the approach on this forum by some? It's always "behind the scenes", or 3rd party or generalized - "our guys" (I've got information you don't have, etc) that many times turns out inaccurate - like Memphis being 2nd behind Cincy for a B12 invite indeed as based upon 'behind the scenes info'. My question would be what is the necessity of "behind the scenes", what exactly are the lobbying attempts & with whom? And ask yourself what would be the necessity or benefit of behind the scenes anyway?

That's how it works. Deals are typically worked out behind the scenes and when everything's squared away, then you let everyone else know. It's the same in government and in business. Public statements oftentimes are meaningless outside of trying to sway opinion to a desired conclusion.

(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Our president also repeated several times at that breakfast that he had no ability to seek state funding for a municipal project - i.e., the LB renovation since it was city-owned & as such the city would have to seek the funding (which we since know is what happened). My info is first-hand & it seems to directly contradicts Griffin's post

Without direct quotes, it's difficult to agree with you based on our disagreement with the interpretation of the comments from the AD regarding our program, as a point of reference.

(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  And I'll add, I didn't misunderstand anything from the AD, in his words "... minimum std..." with the understanding he & the admin wanted better in the future, to pursue championships etc. But understand it was enough for RS to keep his job after two yrs of meeting that "minimum std" with losing records in the very conference where competing for championships is desired

See what I mean?

I've explained as clearly as the letter wrote it. But you refuse to see it because it doesn't fit your preferred narrative. Reality is RS is still here which means he has met the required std at least thru yr 3 of his contract.
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(01-13-2023 11:41 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(01-13-2023 10:37 AM)msu35 Wrote:  
(01-13-2023 12:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Interesting, but contradictory to what our president expressed during his visit to Atlanta late last fall but after the LB renovation was announced. He clearly indicated he accepted recommendations about the LB being the most feasible but '... was still getting his feet on the ground and had not been to Nashville to discuss stadium funding & with LB approach decided had no reason to since the LB was city property'.

Is it possible that you are completely misinterpreting whatever the president said just like you misinterpreted the communications from the AD?

It wasn't a private conversation, it was a Q&A session as part of a breakfast with a substantial number of university supporters in attendance. The communication was quite clear. Do you not get the approach on this forum by some? It's always "behind the scenes", or 3rd party or generalized - "our guys" (I've got information you don't have, etc) that many times turns out inaccurate - like Memphis being 2nd behind Cincy for a B12 invite indeed as based upon 'behind the scenes info'. My question would be what is the necessity of "behind the scenes", what exactly are the lobbying attempts & with whom? And ask yourself what would be the necessity or benefit of behind the scenes anyway? Our president also repeated several times at that breakfast that he had no ability to seek state funding for a municipal project - i.e., the LB renovation since it was city-owned & as such the city would have to seek the funding (which we since know is what happened). My info is first-hand & it seems to directly contradicts Griffin's post. And I'll add, I didn't misunderstand anything from the AD, in his words "... minimum std..." with the understanding he & the admin wanted better in the future, to pursue championships etc. But understand it was enough for RS to keep his job after two yrs of meeting that "minimum std" with losing records in the very conference where competing for championships is desired

Now it is clear that as usual, you had ZERO understanding of what was said. You claimed that Rudd hadn't talked to the state at all, that he had completely ignored them. The reality is that he OBVIOUSLY had been in contact with all levels of government in the city and the state, and he was told that the city would have to ask for it.

This is much much different from saying that Rudd hadn't approached the state or even talked to them. OBVIOUSLY, Rudd had been in contact with the state on many occasions.

This also contradicts completely your nonsensical criticism of the school depending on the city to do its bidding.

As I mentioned and outlined very clearly, you have been arguing against your own nonsensical contradictions the entire time.

Atlanta: Rudd hasn't even talked to the state
Atlanta: Rudd talked to the state and was told that the school can't lobby for funds
Atlanta: The school sucks, they won't even try to get money themselves, they need the city to ask

So as usual, you have ZERO understanding of anything, even when you are apparently IN THE ROOM LISTENING TO IT. You literally just contradicted everything that you have been arguing on both sides; you have been arguing against yourself.

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01-13-2023 11:58 AM
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RE: Funding for SBLB and FEF renovation
(01-13-2023 11:53 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I've explained sad clearly as the letter wrote it. But you refuse to see it because it doesn't fit your preferred narrative. Reality is RS is still here which means he has met the required std at least thru yr 3 of his contract.

The reality is that the world is not black and white. There are numerous factors that go into whether or not you keep a coach. In this instance, I can see multiple reasons why he wasn't terminated this season. Don't you think the rebooting of staff is an indicator that broad corrections are being made? Do you believe the coach would still have a job next year if he repeats his performance the past couple of seasons?

I strongly believe you are the one distorting circumstances to fit a flawed interpretation of the AD's statements. No need to keep circling the wagons on that point. We agree to disagree. I was just wondering why your interpretation of the president's comments - which have still not been shared verbatim to afford a fair evaluation - would be so contradictory to a vetted insider's (someone who would assuredly know more than you regarding the inner machinations of the program) statements.
01-13-2023 12:01 PM
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