Personally, I don't see a need to expand it further, unless there is a cap of some sort placed on conferences total teams allowed. My suspicion is that it would create byes for the top teams and more play in games which basically only takes away from the other post season tournaments.

(01-03-2023 07:23 PM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  Personally, I don't see a need to expand it further, unless there is a cap of some sort placed on conferences total teams allowed. My suspicion is that it would create byes for the top teams and more play in games which basically only takes away from the other post season tournaments.

I wouldn’t mind that, but I would mind more middling ACC and SEC teams getting in. Unless the WAC, CUSA, and others are given 2 bids, no expansion. We all know, they want more P6 teams in.

I just don't want to see a lot of "play in" games because having to play so many extra games wears out a team causing less interesting game scores later in the tourney.

(01-03-2023 10:52 PM)RCI Wrote:  I just don't want to see a lot of "play in" games because having to play so many extra games wears out a team causing less interesting game scores later in the tourney.

If they extend the NCAA another week, it should not be an issue. instead of four play-in games to get from 68 to 64, one game per region, it would be 12 play-in games with four per region to get from 90 to 64.

The only two things that would be a no-go on expansion for me would be if the selection committee simply added more P6 schools without throwing a bone the mid-major's direction. And if the play-in games were designed to pit two mid-majors against each other while auto-advancing most of the P6 schools to the round of 64.

(01-03-2023 11:06 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 10:52 PM)RCI Wrote:  I just don't want to see a lot of "play in" games because having to play so many extra games wears out a team causing less interesting game scores later in the tourney.

If they extend the NCAA another week, it should not be an issue. instead of four play-in games to get from 68 to 64, one game per region, it would be 12 play-in games with four per region to get from 90 to 64.

The only two things that would be a no-go on expansion for me would be if the selection committee simply added more P6 schools without throwing a bone the mid-major's direction. And if the play-in games were designed to pit two mid-majors against each other while auto-advancing most of the P6 schools to the round of 64.

Completely agree with you. I don't want to see 10 out of 12 teams in a P5 conference in the tourney or padding things with 50 percent Won-Loss P6 teams.

Give me a a auto bid for reg season and tourney champ of all leagues then go from there.

Watched the KU/Texas Tech game last night and the announcers were already saying the way things look right now the Big 12 might get nine of ten teams into the tournament this year.

Conference tourneys already serve as early rounds of the tourney. Just make it official and then everyone can have participated.

Aye 90?! I’m fine with it at 68. If some get left out so be it. Makes it more special when it’s harder to get in. Like many I’m worried this just means places 1-8 from the P6s get in.

(01-04-2023 07:35 PM)YesCubanB Wrote:  Aye 90?! I’m fine with it at 68. If some get left out so be it. Makes it more special when it’s harder to get in. Like many I’m worried this just means places 1-8 from the P6s get in.

Hard for me to believe anything other than two of the P6 basically saying “you think we’re expanding in order to give everyone else our bids?”

Thing is, and sorry if I’m repeating myself here, but the NCAA leadership is muttering to itself while slightly rocking back and forth in a fetal position in a corner of an Indianapolis warehouse because any smidge of control they have is gone and the rest of whatever authority they possess is under threat of lawsuit.

But lest we all forget, this is all about money. The NCAA gets so much money from the tournament already but want more. Imagine what another weekend of games is worth.

(01-07-2023 09:24 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  But lest we all forget, this is all about money. The NCAA gets so much money from the tournament already but want more. Imagine what another weekend of games is worth.

Not much because it's a lot of programs nobody cares about playing in that in play-in round, and it would eliminate most of the mid major programs that could give the big boys a scare in the Round of 64.

(01-08-2023 12:49 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(01-07-2023 09:24 AM)FirstandGoal Wrote:  But lest we all forget, this is all about money. The NCAA gets so much money from the tournament already but want more. Imagine what another weekend of games is worth.

Not much because it's a lot of programs nobody cares about playing in that in play-in round, and it would eliminate most of the mid major programs that could give the big boys a scare in the Round of 64.

If the brackets include an additional number of non P6 schools, it actually increases the number of opportunities for the P6 schools to be upset. But financially ESPN et all will have to broadcast another weekend of games and will have to pay for broadcast rites.