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RE: Who could/should we get?
I think there's a big difference between being the Boise State of the new, cruddier league and just being one of the top five teams. The way we're playing under Silverfield indicates we'd be at the level of or chasing ECU, Tulane, etc., and that's what truly deflates the fan base. When he came in we were poised to be a powerhouse.

If we hire someone, this year or next, I'd love Dillingham or Prime Time but it's probably someone we've never heard much of.
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RE: Who could/should we get?
(11-15-2022 02:44 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:35 PM)Boots Wrote:  If he beats N. Alabama and SMU he will 90% be back.

If he loses to SMU I would say it is 60% back/40% gone.

So crazy...that if he just would have beat Houston and ECU. Games he 100% should have won considering the circumstances....he currently would be 7-3....about to go to 8-3.....then with a win/loss at SMU would be 9-3 (likely ranked) or at worst 8-4. He would probably be getting an extension.

And you had both Houston and ECU beat multiple times. Same thing happened previous year. This is what gives me most concern. CRS just has shown a tendency to not be able to close out games for whatever reason.

And biggest thing because of how painful some of the losses have been....he has lost a big percentage of the fan base. Just a tough sell to get people excited for next year.

This is the overriding problem. It doesn't matter if you go undefeated. If no one will pay to watch it, you will not keep your multi-million dollar job.

I very much disagree with this. In my opinion every Memphis Tiger football game is like Christmas, and we get at least 12 of them every year which must be the origin of the phrase the 12 days of Christmas. Winning the game is like being a kid and waking up on Christmas morning and getting really awesome presents. Losing the game is like getting presents that you don't want - disappointing but still better than no Christmas at all. Going undefeated is the biggest dream that a heart can make. These things are ends unto themselves. If people choose not to enjoy these wonderful blessings then I honestly feel sorry for them because their lives are not as full as they should be.
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100% on this. The realignment depression is real for a lot of people. I have heard it a lot.

Then the painful losses people can't bear over and over. It really is tough to stomach.

Really need a big step next year with or without CRS. Need to win or be at top of league. That would increase peoples spirits.
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The Tigers are highly unlikely to be added to a conference because unfortunately, we dont bring much to the table from a market perspective.
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(11-15-2022 02:59 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:44 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:35 PM)Boots Wrote:  If he beats N. Alabama and SMU he will 90% be back.

If he loses to SMU I would say it is 60% back/40% gone.

So crazy...that if he just would have beat Houston and ECU. Games he 100% should have won considering the circumstances....he currently would be 7-3....about to go to 8-3.....then with a win/loss at SMU would be 9-3 (likely ranked) or at worst 8-4. He would probably be getting an extension.

And you had both Houston and ECU beat multiple times. Same thing happened previous year. This is what gives me most concern. CRS just has shown a tendency to not be able to close out games for whatever reason.

And biggest thing because of how painful some of the losses have been....he has lost a big percentage of the fan base. Just a tough sell to get people excited for next year.

This is the overriding problem. It doesn't matter if you go undefeated. If no one will pay to watch it, you will not keep your multi-million dollar job.

I very much disagree with this. In my opinion every Memphis Tiger football game is like Christmas, and we get at least 12 of them every year which must be the origin of the phrase the 12 days of Christmas. Winning the game is like being a kid and waking up on Christmas morning and getting really awesome presents. Losing the game is like getting presents that you don't want - disappointing but still better than no Christmas at all. Going undefeated is the biggest dream that a heart can make. These things are ends unto themselves. If people choose not to enjoy these wonderful blessings then I honestly feel sorry for them because their lives are not as full as they should be.

How do I nominate this for post of the year?
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(11-15-2022 03:04 PM)EastMemphisTiger1 Wrote:  The Tigers are highly unlikely to be added to a conference because unfortunately, we dont bring much to the table from a market perspective.

There is a ladder approach to realignment. We just missed the cut off last time. If more happens on the central/eastern side of the country Memphis will be in the mix.

Just a year ago reports were Memphis and Boise were top candidates for if Big 12 expanded more. UCLA/USC move changed a lot of dynamics and caused a more westward look. But if PAC settles down for a while, those B12 eyes may come back.

Memphis, SMU, Boise, USF, SDSU are still near the top of G5 candidates. In the end I think all of these end up promoted....just will take a little while. Got to keep pushing.
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(11-15-2022 02:21 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  Sadly I think all of our highly informed and interesting candidate parsing is for naught. Ol' Silverbells is going to get another year to try to prove that he can stop shitting the bed.

He probably will unless there is confirmed interest from a proven commodity - in which case I would hope the change is made. There is a real good chance to win the conference next season with a strong HC.
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(11-15-2022 12:14 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 12:08 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 12:06 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:57 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:54 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  I think Ron Mexico would be an awesome hire.

Except for the whole dog fighting thing. Ted Lasso won at Wichita State and knows the AAC

Great points.
I'd start a poll, but Ted would run away with it.
However, if he gets anxiety over a divorce, imagine him driving to LB stadium from South Campus.

You forget, he bring Coach Beard

Beard as DC.
If he could get Nate back in the fold, there's his OC.
And Nate could tap into the growing Indian population in greater Memphis.
It's an untapped American football population.

You can’t be serious. We don’t need that backstabbing drama queen anywhere near the program
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(11-15-2022 03:31 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 12:14 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 12:08 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 12:06 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:57 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Except for the whole dog fighting thing. Ted Lasso won at Wichita State and knows the AAC

Great points.
I'd start a poll, but Ted would run away with it.
However, if he gets anxiety over a divorce, imagine him driving to LB stadium from South Campus.

You forget, he bring Coach Beard

Beard as DC.
If he could get Nate back in the fold, there's his OC.
And Nate could tap into the growing Indian population in greater Memphis.
It's an untapped American football population.

You can’t be serious. We don’t need that backstabbing drama queen anywhere near the program

I really need to watch this show.
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(11-15-2022 02:59 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:44 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:35 PM)Boots Wrote:  If he beats N. Alabama and SMU he will 90% be back.

If he loses to SMU I would say it is 60% back/40% gone.

So crazy...that if he just would have beat Houston and ECU. Games he 100% should have won considering the circumstances....he currently would be 7-3....about to go to 8-3.....then with a win/loss at SMU would be 9-3 (likely ranked) or at worst 8-4. He would probably be getting an extension.

And you had both Houston and ECU beat multiple times. Same thing happened previous year. This is what gives me most concern. CRS just has shown a tendency to not be able to close out games for whatever reason.

And biggest thing because of how painful some of the losses have been....he has lost a big percentage of the fan base. Just a tough sell to get people excited for next year.

This is the overriding problem. It doesn't matter if you go undefeated. If no one will pay to watch it, you will not keep your multi-million dollar job.

I very much disagree with this. In my opinion every Memphis Tiger football game is like Christmas, and we get at least 12 of them every year which must be the origin of the phrase the 12 days of Christmas. Winning the game is like being a kid and waking up on Christmas morning and getting really awesome presents. Losing the game is like getting presents that you don't want - disappointing but still better than no Christmas at all. Going undefeated is the biggest dream that a heart can make. These things are ends unto themselves. If people choose not to enjoy these wonderful blessings then I honestly feel sorry for them because their lives are not as full as they should be.

What you just typed has nothing to do with what I said. I agree with you. But that's not the issue. What IS the issue is, what do the vast majority of people think. You and I are just two people. The administration cannot justify hanging on to a coach who cannot fill the stands, no matter what the reason.
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(11-15-2022 05:20 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:59 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:44 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:35 PM)Boots Wrote:  If he beats N. Alabama and SMU he will 90% be back.

If he loses to SMU I would say it is 60% back/40% gone.

So crazy...that if he just would have beat Houston and ECU. Games he 100% should have won considering the circumstances....he currently would be 7-3....about to go to 8-3.....then with a win/loss at SMU would be 9-3 (likely ranked) or at worst 8-4. He would probably be getting an extension.

And you had both Houston and ECU beat multiple times. Same thing happened previous year. This is what gives me most concern. CRS just has shown a tendency to not be able to close out games for whatever reason.

And biggest thing because of how painful some of the losses have been....he has lost a big percentage of the fan base. Just a tough sell to get people excited for next year.

This is the overriding problem. It doesn't matter if you go undefeated. If no one will pay to watch it, you will not keep your multi-million dollar job.

I very much disagree with this. In my opinion every Memphis Tiger football game is like Christmas, and we get at least 12 of them every year which must be the origin of the phrase the 12 days of Christmas. Winning the game is like being a kid and waking up on Christmas morning and getting really awesome presents. Losing the game is like getting presents that you don't want - disappointing but still better than no Christmas at all. Going undefeated is the biggest dream that a heart can make. These things are ends unto themselves. If people choose not to enjoy these wonderful blessings then I honestly feel sorry for them because their lives are not as full as they should be.

What you just typed has nothing to do with what I said. I agree with you. But that's not the issue. What IS the issue is, what do the vast majority of people think. You and I are just two people. The administration cannot justify hanging on to a coach who cannot fill the stands, no matter what the reason.

Well you missed where I said that winning the games and going undefeated are ends unto themselves. Newsflash: the point of playing football is to win the games. The happy side effect is filling the stands. Not vice versa. But the two things are so interconnected by an unshakable causality that the ludicrous situation you hypothesized could never happen.
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Meet with Deion tomorrow and cut a deal,
Deion will be a very good coach and a fabulous recruiter, imagine Deion and Penny talking to a recruit
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(11-15-2022 12:47 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 12:35 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Problem is, when people here think about hiring a successful D2 guy, they think back to Rip and Dempsey.

He has been successful at D2 and D1 FCS and this year he had JMU ranked in the top 25 in their first season in FBS. That's every level, including the highest level.

I'm not saying he is definitely the guy, but he has the best resume of anyone who would be interested.

Don't know about the best, but he's got a solid one.
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(11-15-2022 02:00 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:57 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:54 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:54 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Ted Lasso

I think Ron Mexico would be an awesome hire.

Except for the whole dog fighting thing. Ted Lasso won at Wichita State and knows the AAC

He won at Wichita STATE?? HOW OLD IS THIS DUDE????

tv show fiction
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(11-15-2022 02:08 PM)Boots Wrote:  Would love Bill Clark here. Former UAB coach. 54 years old. Went 49-26 at UAB. He is 60-30 overall as head coach. Resigned because of back problems but have heard he wants back in.

I think he would do very well in the new AAC. He won 2 conference championships at UAB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clark..._football)

Added him to the OP. Although a bit old and a defensive guy - not what the fan base is looking for. But if he wins, whatever.
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(11-15-2022 07:58 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:08 PM)Boots Wrote:  Would love Bill Clark here. Former UAB coach. 54 years old. Went 49-26 at UAB. He is 60-30 overall as head coach. Resigned because of back problems but have heard he wants back in.

I think he would do very well in the new AAC. He won 2 conference championships at UAB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clark..._football)

Added him to the OP. Although a bit old and a defensive guy - not what the fan base is looking for. But if he wins, whatever.

Can he build another Frankenstein quarterback? Remember that guy? He was huge.
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(11-15-2022 11:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:49 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:46 AM)southpaw1 Wrote:  Interesting list. I had to googles the up and comers. One of those guys might be worth a shot if CRS fails next year. I would give each another year. I personally don't think we can get Deion Sanders. He will have some P5 suitors.

Hiring Deion Sanders would a goat rope, with the circus atmosphere that would follow along with him .... Not worth the headache ...

I could see his tenure going the full gamut - from huge success to complete cluster fukk. Either way I don't think he'd be here more than 2-3 years however it went.
Anyone that thinks Deon would leave JSU to come here is delusional.
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(11-15-2022 07:56 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 02:00 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:57 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:54 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:54 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Ted Lasso

I think Ron Mexico would be an awesome hire.

Except for the whole dog fighting thing. Ted Lasso won at Wichita State and knows the AAC

He won at Wichita STATE?? HOW OLD IS THIS DUDE????

tv show fiction

Lol
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(11-19-2022 12:32 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:51 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:49 AM)DDrum1961 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022 11:46 AM)southpaw1 Wrote:  Interesting list. I had to googles the up and comers. One of those guys might be worth a shot if CRS fails next year. I would give each another year. I personally don't think we can get Deion Sanders. He will have some P5 suitors.

Hiring Deion Sanders would a goat rope, with the circus atmosphere that would follow along with him .... Not worth the headache ...

I could see his tenure going the full gamut - from huge success to complete cluster fukk. Either way I don't think he'd be here more than 2-3 years however it went.
Anyone that thinks Deon would leave JSU to come here is delusional.

I agree.
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Word on the street is Prime loves the City of Memphis, a Dude told Ike, prime was interested in
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