Rhule needs to inquire about the Georgia Tech HC job. The right guy can recruit at this urban campus.

(10-10-2022 11:02 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  I don’t see the attraction of Matt Ruhle. There are much better coaches out there.

Who? Rhule did a good job at Temple and Baylor. He has got to be at the top of the list for Georgia Tech, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Colorado, Arizona State, and future job openings. Rhule was 11-27 for the Panthers and he went 1-27 when allowing 17+ points. He needed a good quarterback and he was without his star player, Christian McCaffrey, for 23 of the 38 games he coached in. It just didn't work out for him at Carolina.

(10-10-2022 05:09 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  It just didn't work out for Ruhle at Carolina.

Like Pete Carroll with the Jets

Or Lovie Smith with the Bears

(10-10-2022 01:27 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(10-10-2022 01:22 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Maybe Temple will fire their coach and rehire Ruhle to help rebuild Temple to the point to ask for includesion to a P5 conference like the ACC?

Temple set a whole new level for awfulness in a power conference. Vanderbilt, SWC Rice, pre-Bill Snyder Kansas State, and 1970s-1980s Northwestern never got kicked out of their conferences. But Temple did.

In fairness Temple was in the BE for only football, not all sports. And didn't bring powerhouse academics and/or good non-football sports like some of those schools did.

SCB: He was undefeated when allowing <17! He needed a defense.

(10-10-2022 07:21 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  SCB: He was undefeated when allowing <17! He needed a defense.

Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. All decent quarterbacks for the Panthers. But none of them are Patick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, or Justin Herbert. That is what Rhule was missing. The reality of the NFL is that it helps to have a great quarterback. That position is the most important and Carolina could not find that guy at QB.

(10-10-2022 07:01 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(10-10-2022 01:27 PM)Poster Wrote:  

(10-10-2022 01:22 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Maybe Temple will fire their coach and rehire Ruhle to help rebuild Temple to the point to ask for includesion to a P5 conference like the ACC?

Temple set a whole new level for awfulness in a power conference. Vanderbilt, SWC Rice, pre-Bill Snyder Kansas State, and 1970s-1980s Northwestern never got kicked out of their conferences. But Temple did.

In fairness Temple was in the BE for only football, not all sports. And didn't bring powerhouse academics and/or good non-football sports like some of those schools did.

Temple had decent basketball. (Certainly better than Rutgers who got an all sports invite.) The problem was that Villanova would never let them join for all sports, and as long as they were a football-only member they wouldn't be worth it for the conference.

In 1995, Temple averaged a mind blowing 4,406 fans per game. That is no typo. I really can't imagine that any other power conference team has ever done that. My understanding is that Temple got kicked out of the Big East at least as much because of their attendance as their performance. (Although the two factors are pretty intertwined with each other.)

Was any consideration given to Temple remaining in the Big East after the 2003 realignment? IIRC they stayed an extra year after Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College announced they were leaving. I know Virginia Tech was the one school who voted to keep Temple in 2001.

(10-10-2022 11:21 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(10-10-2022 07:21 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  SCB: He was undefeated when allowing <17! He needed a defense.

Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield. All decent quarterbacks for the Panthers. But none of them are Patick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, or Justin Herbert. That is what Rhule was missing. The reality of the NFL is that it helps to have a great quarterback. That position is the most important and Carolina could not find that guy at QB.

Don't forget whatever McCaffrey was supposed to do or be, too.

(10-11-2022 09:01 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  Was any consideration given to Temple remaining in the Big East after the 2003 realignment? IIRC they stayed an extra year after Miami, Virginia Tech and Boston College announced they were leaving. I know Virginia Tech was the one school (along with the Owls of course) who voted to keep Temple in 2001.

Temple originally were supposed to be expelled after the 2001 season. (Which probably would have forced them to completely cancel their 2002 season because I don't know how the hell you can form an independent schedule that quickly.)


Temple filed a lawsuit, and at about the start of the 2001 season there was a settlement to allow them to stay all the way through the 2004 season. The rationale was that it would allow all their freshman to play in the Big East through their senior year.

I've never heard that any consideration was given to allowing Temple to stay in the Big East after the 2003 raids. They weren't even one of the first teams selected to the Big East/AAC in 2011-2012. They were chosen in about April 2012 because the Big East needed an emergency replacement after WVU broke the 27 month rule and bolted to the Big 12 ASAP, and Temple was the only team whose conference was allowing them to join for 2012. Temple might still be in the MAC if it wasn't for the WVU situation.

We know Villanova had thoughts on the whole relationship. It should speak volumes that when it came time to vote, Pitt, a fellow commonwealth school, abstained. With friends like that...

(10-11-2022 09:19 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  We know Villanova had thoughts on the whole relationship. It should speak volumes that when it came time to vote, Pitt, a fellow commonwealth school, abstained. With friends like that...

I always get very confused about how much of a private school Pitt is supposed to be and how much of a public school it's supposed to be. It's the only school I've ever heard of that's supposed to be a combination of private and public.


Hasn't Pitt gradually become more of a public school over time? They might have been more of a private school in 2001.

(10-11-2022 09:22 AM)Poster Wrote:  

(10-11-2022 09:19 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  We know Villanova had thoughts on the whole relationship. It should speak volumes that when it came time to vote, Pitt, a fellow commonwealth school, abstained. With friends like that...

I always get very confused about how much of a private school Pitt is supposed to be and how much of a public school it's supposed to be. It's the only school I've ever heard of that's supposed to be a combination of private and public.


Hasn't Pitt gradually become more of a public school over time? They might have been more of a private school in 2001.

Pitt, Temple, Penn State, and Lincoln are all designated as commonwealth schools. State-related. Both Pitt and Temple have the more "private" background when compared to Penn State.

The University of Delaware is somewhat similar.