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RE: Bates arrested...
(09-19-2022 10:44 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 05:47 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 01:59 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  1) he didn’t stop when police tried to pull him over
2) Michigan requires a CCP to carry in your car
3) for any gun made after January 30, 2002 it must have a SN and under federal law you cannot alter that SN or duplicate it in any way. This is an ATF law - 27 CFR § 478.34. Ghost guns are excluded from this because they weren’t manufactured by a company but Congress just passed a law around ghost guns too. Edit: ghost gun rules that went into effect in august wasn’t a law but an “executive action” by Biden admin and ATF

I don't believe the ATF can pass laws.

But they can institute regulations. There are already a whole books worth.

That power was eliminated by a SCOTUS ruling having to do with EPA powers to create regulations.
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RE: Bates arrested...
(09-20-2022 11:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 10:44 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 05:47 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 01:59 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  1) he didn’t stop when police tried to pull him over
2) Michigan requires a CCP to carry in your car
3) for any gun made after January 30, 2002 it must have a SN and under federal law you cannot alter that SN or duplicate it in any way. This is an ATF law - 27 CFR § 478.34. Ghost guns are excluded from this because they weren’t manufactured by a company but Congress just passed a law around ghost guns too. Edit: ghost gun rules that went into effect in august wasn’t a law but an “executive action” by Biden admin and ATF

I don't believe the ATF can pass laws.

But they can institute regulations. There are already a whole books worth.

That power was eliminated by a SCOTUS ruling having to do with EPA powers to create regulations.

Yep. That's why I'm sayin'... he needs a good attorney.
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RE: Bates arrested...
(09-19-2022 10:44 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 05:47 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 01:59 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  1) he didn’t stop when police tried to pull him over
2) Michigan requires a CCP to carry in your car
3) for any gun made after January 30, 2002 it must have a SN and under federal law you cannot alter that SN or duplicate it in any way. This is an ATF law - 27 CFR § 478.34. Ghost guns are excluded from this because they weren’t manufactured by a company but Congress just passed a law around ghost guns too. Edit: ghost gun rules that went into effect in august wasn’t a law but an “executive action” by Biden admin and ATF

I don't believe the ATF can pass laws.

But they can institute regulations. There are already a whole books worth.

ATF did not pass the law of course but they worked with the bill’s sponsors in congress on the bill’s language and enforcement
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RE: Bates arrested...
Again.

Why would anyone have reason to alter a gun's serial number?

Just a terrible look.
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RE: Bates arrested...
(09-20-2022 09:50 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 04:47 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 03:09 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  You guys are looking at this the wrong way.

Emoni Bates has a reputation as being a soft guy.

This is all part of his image rebranding-- Gangsta Moni

(09-19-2022 04:57 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
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(09-19-2022 11:48 AM)Fluke Wrote:  New recruiting pitch. You won’t get a felony for carrying if you come to Memphis(just don’t scratch the SN).

You know... It's not against the law to carry. I wish the "news" would not imply he is in trouble for carrying a weapon.

"Concealed carry is legal for residents with a Michigan Concealed Pistol License (CPL) and for non-residents that are at least 21 years old and who have licenses/permits from their state of residency".

Until recently it was against the law to carry concealed without a handgun permit here in TN.

(09-20-2022 12:43 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  
(09-20-2022 09:34 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  


Is that actually Bates waiving the gun and cash or someone else's video?

That's Emoni posting "his" video prior to arrest

I’m just glad social media wasn’t around when I was young(er) and stupid(er).
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She owned Shooters Grill, a restaurant in Rifle, Colorado, where staff members were encouraged to openly carry firearms.
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(09-22-2022 02:56 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  She owned Shooters Grill, a restaurant in Rifle, Colorado, where staff members were encouraged to openly carry firearms.

Now my post doesn't make sense because some democrat deleted posts they didn't like.
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(09-22-2022 02:57 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 02:56 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  She owned Shooters Grill, a restaurant in Rifle, Colorado, where staff members were encouraged to openly carry firearms.

Now my post doesn't make sense because some democrat deleted posts they didn't like.
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So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.
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RE: Bates arrested...
(09-20-2022 11:21 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 10:44 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 05:47 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-19-2022 01:59 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  1) he didn’t stop when police tried to pull him over
2) Michigan requires a CCP to carry in your car
3) for any gun made after January 30, 2002 it must have a SN and under federal law you cannot alter that SN or duplicate it in any way. This is an ATF law - 27 CFR § 478.34. Ghost guns are excluded from this because they weren’t manufactured by a company but Congress just passed a law around ghost guns too. Edit: ghost gun rules that went into effect in august wasn’t a law but an “executive action” by Biden admin and ATF

I don't believe the ATF can pass laws.

But they can institute regulations. There are already a whole books worth.

That power was eliminated by a SCOTUS ruling having to do with EPA powers to create regulations.

Lol tell that to them, they are all set to regulate braces on AR pistols out of legality. They have a whole book full of regulations. Don't be naive.
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(09-22-2022 05:44 PM)Keeper Wrote:  So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.

I am an avid shooter and strong supporter of the 2A and I firmly believe that TN's constitutional carry policy is too lenient. Anyone of age who hasn't been convicted of a crime can now carry openly or concealed without ever having attended even a basic firearm's safety class. That to me is an open invitation to disaster although nothing appears to have happened yet because of the new law.
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(09-22-2022 05:44 PM)Keeper Wrote:  So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.

Like when you tried to pick a fight with Homefry? He would have stomped a mud hole in you.
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back in the day, a friend would have already come forward claiming the gun, the car, the whole thing.

Emoni needs a better crew.
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(09-22-2022 05:44 PM)Keeper Wrote:  So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.

When you apply for a CCP, you take classes that impress upon you the seriousness and weight of carrying. It will inevitably impart a level of responsibility not experienced by just buying a gun on the corner.
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(09-22-2022 09:00 PM)tigerengineer Wrote:  back in the day, a friend would have already come forward claiming the gun, the car, the whole thing.

Emoni needs a better crew.

I dont know how many people would come forward claiming all that. You are looking at a possible 10 year sentence. Just how much would it take for you to go to jail for 10 years? A few million maybe?
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(09-22-2022 09:13 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 05:44 PM)Keeper Wrote:  So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.

When you apply for a CCP, you take classes that impress upon you the seriousness and weight of carrying. It will inevitably impart a level of responsibility not experienced by just buying a gun on the corner.

Not much of which teaches you much at all about the mechanics of shooting properly. I can't tell you the number of people I know who went through those classes and have no idea what to do if they should need to use the damn thing.

A friend of mine, an old man who had no business carrying a handgun, bought one after getting his handgun carry permit. He came in the smoke shop where I used to work one day waving it around saying "look at what I bought!". Everyone in the place dove for cover. I made him go put the gun back in his truck. He came back in and asked if I could give him some tips on things like how to hold it and asked what other advice I had for him. I told him to return it to the store he bought it from. He asked why and I told him because the first time he had to use it someone would take it from him and shoot him. Not even two months later he was dead, shot by his own handgun by some punk ass biatch he had taken in. They started arguing, the kid threatened him, he pulled it out and the kid did exactly what I predicted, took it from him and shot him dead. They found him 4 days later under his bed. He was a sweet old fool.

Also, in TN you no longer need a carry permit of any kind to carry one. That is insane.
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(09-22-2022 05:44 PM)Keeper Wrote:  So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.

Are you suggesting there be some form of discrimination when it comes to issuing permits?
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(09-22-2022 02:57 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 02:56 PM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  She owned Shooters Grill, a restaurant in Rifle, Colorado, where staff members were encouraged to openly carry firearms.

Now my post doesn't make sense because some democrat deleted posts they didn't like.

It certainly lost me.
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(09-23-2022 10:01 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 05:44 PM)Keeper Wrote:  So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.

Are you suggesting there be some form of discrimination when it comes to issuing permits?

I don’t believe in judgements but I do believe in things like basic training on the law and firearm safety.

I.e carry all you want like I do but there should be a minimum bar. I’ve had my permit for years and am thankful I had a good trainer who knew the law. I’ve had to actually explain the law to some Johnny Rambo wannabes who had bad trainers and didn’t do anything after the class other than blow through magazines of reloads at the range once in a while.
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(09-22-2022 10:28 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 09:13 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 05:44 PM)Keeper Wrote:  So far the young man hasn't show much good judgement. You sure you want young men like this to have concealed carry permits.

When you apply for a CCP, you take classes that impress upon you the seriousness and weight of carrying. It will inevitably impart a level of responsibility not experienced by just buying a gun on the corner.

Not much of which teaches you much at all about the mechanics of shooting properly. I can't tell you the number of people I know who went through those classes and have no idea what to do if they should need to use the damn thing.

A friend of mine, an old man who had no business carrying a handgun, bought one after getting his handgun carry permit. He came in the smoke shop where I used to work one day waving it around saying "look at what I bought!". Everyone in the place dove for cover. I made him go put the gun back in his truck. He came back in and asked if I could give him some tips on things like how to hold it and asked what other advice I had for him. I told him to return it to the store he bought it from. He asked why and I told him because the first time he had to use it someone would take it from him and shoot him. Not even two months later he was dead, shot by his own handgun by some punk ass biatch he had taken in. They started arguing, the kid threatened him, he pulled it out and the kid did exactly what I predicted, took it from him and shot him dead. They found him 4 days later under his bed. He was a sweet old fool.

Also, in TN you no longer need a carry permit of any kind to carry one. That is insane.

This is absolutely insane and to this day I don’t understand it. I’m completely pro second amendment but you don’t put a child behind the wheel of a bus.
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