VT fans I know would agree with that this season.

As overrated as the VT football program is, it gets worse...

The VCU basketball program knows they suck and are overrated and VCU will not play Virginia teams claiming elite status.

The truth, they suck

(08-30-2022 06:17 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  As overrated as the VT football program is, it gets worse...

The VCU basketball program knows they suck and are overrated and VCU will not play Virginia teams claiming elite status.

The truth, they suck

You may be right, but I have news for you from an out of state perspective….

When I think state of Virginia basketball, I think UVA, VCU, and Richmond. JMU doesn’t even come to mind at all.

VCU’s past success has made them a basketball “brand” to the casual out of state observer.

Is that fair? Is that accurate? I have no idea. But what I do know is that perception is reality.

Perception is reality from a CCU fan complaining about USC/Clemson not traveling to Conway just yesterday is proof of maturing day over day.

(08-30-2022 08:23 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Perception is reality from a CCU fan complaining about USC/Clemson not traveling to Conway just yesterday is proof of maturing day over day.

This post makes no sense.

Of course the perception everywhere is that Coastal’s in state P5’s are superior to us. I never said anything to the contrary.

But as a Coastal fan, I obviously want us to continually push to change that perception. JMU should as well.

But if you think that I ever thought that anyone perceived us to be on par with Clemson in football, you’re wrong. I know exactly where we stand in the pecking order of perception.

(08-29-2022 12:08 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:48 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  ODU has home games against VT in 2022, 2024, 2027, 2029, 2031. And away in 2023, 2025, 2026, 2028, 2030

ODU has the back half of a H/A with Wake Forest in 2023 at home.

ODU has UVA at home in 2028.

What's it like to be in a state where the P5's are willing to play long term series against in state schools? Ours would prefer to not acknowledge our existence...

UVA hates it, and I think they're banking on Norfolk falling into the ocean before 2028. VT seems pretty good about it. I was worried about them cancelling it early but we just moved a date for the 2031 season so it seems like they're still committed to it.

The whole Hampton Roads area is fertile recruiting territory. Tech is smart. Easy travel, good fan base in the area for them, lots of recruits. Virginia too uppity to go play at "lowly" ODU. Good for ODU

(08-29-2022 11:48 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  ODU has home games against VT in 2022, 2024, 2027, 2029, 2031. And away in 2023, 2025, 2026, 2028, 2030

ODU has the back half of a H/A with Wake Forest in 2023 at home.

ODU has UVA at home in 2028.

ODU has the good fortune to be located in a fertile recruiting area.

(08-30-2022 08:48 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 12:08 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:48 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  ODU has home games against VT in 2022, 2024, 2027, 2029, 2031. And away in 2023, 2025, 2026, 2028, 2030

ODU has the back half of a H/A with Wake Forest in 2023 at home.

ODU has UVA at home in 2028.

What's it like to be in a state where the P5's are willing to play long term series against in state schools? Ours would prefer to not acknowledge our existence...

UVA hates it, and I think they're banking on Norfolk falling into the ocean before 2028. VT seems pretty good about it. I was worried about them cancelling it early but we just moved a date for the 2031 season so it seems like they're still committed to it.

The whole Hampton Roads area is fertile recruiting territory. Tech is smart. Easy travel, good fan base in the area for them, lots of recruits. Virginia too uppity to go play at "lowly" ODU. Good for ODU

UVA is playing us at Coastal. They’re not too uppity.

It’s the same phenomenon that we are experience with SCar in our state.

They’ll go play in Boone, but they wouldn’t be caught dead playing in Conway.

Literally the only difference is that we are in state.

That’s why UVA will play at Coastal but not ODU, I would guess.

(08-30-2022 09:16 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:48 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 12:08 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:48 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  ODU has home games against VT in 2022, 2024, 2027, 2029, 2031. And away in 2023, 2025, 2026, 2028, 2030

ODU has the back half of a H/A with Wake Forest in 2023 at home.

ODU has UVA at home in 2028.

What's it like to be in a state where the P5's are willing to play long term series against in state schools? Ours would prefer to not acknowledge our existence...

UVA hates it, and I think they're banking on Norfolk falling into the ocean before 2028. VT seems pretty good about it. I was worried about them cancelling it early but we just moved a date for the 2031 season so it seems like they're still committed to it.

The whole Hampton Roads area is fertile recruiting territory. Tech is smart. Easy travel, good fan base in the area for them, lots of recruits. Virginia too uppity to go play at "lowly" ODU. Good for ODU

UVA is playing us at Coastal. They’re not too uppity.

It’s the same phenomenon that we are experience with SCar in our state.

They’ll go play in Boone, but they wouldn’t be caught dead playing in Conway.

Literally the only difference is that we are in state.

That’s why UVA will play at Coastal but not ODU, I would guess.

I should clarify. By too uppity, I meant for a G5 school in state. I used to live in the Hampton Roads area (officiated a lot of great football players). UVA just assumed they had every recruit they wanted from there and looked down their noses at Va Tech (agricultural school). Tech worked, got recruits, and the tide turned in the Tidewater. Been awhile since I have been in the area (2009) but you don't get rid of the bluebloods that easily. They will play Coastal (you have had success) and if they lose, the damage will be minimized. Losing in state to a G5 ODU, in a battle ground for recruits would be too much. Learned to really dislike UVA fans while I lived there. LOL

Just to be clear, UVA did agree to a 2-1 with ODU. The home game was scheduled for the pandemic year and is rescheduled to 2028. With the long term deal with VT, which definitely carries more interest in FB I’m not sure we’re in the market for too many more P5 games in the near future or else we’ll be facing a lot of tough OOC schedules like this year. There’s a few more years where we’ll have 2 P5 but with the improved conference schedule, we might want 1 P5, 2 G5 & 1 FCS. So VT kinda squeezed out UVA and the other ACC teams from our schedule by committing long term. We’ll see how that plays out for them

(08-30-2022 04:18 AM)ODU-Z8 Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 01:11 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 12:08 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:48 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  ODU has home games against VT in 2022, 2024, 2027, 2029, 2031. And away in 2023, 2025, 2026, 2028, 2030

ODU has the back half of a H/A with Wake Forest in 2023 at home.

ODU has UVA at home in 2028.

What's it like to be in a state where the P5's are willing to play long term series against in state schools? Ours would prefer to not acknowledge our existence...

UVA hates it, and I think they're banking on Norfolk falling into the ocean before 2028. VT seems pretty good about it. I was worried about them cancelling it early but we just moved a date for the 2031 season so it seems like they're still committed to it.

I think when we were able to land H/H with NC State and UNC early on during our transition to FBS, Virginia Tech quickly realized if they weren't playing at ODU, another P5 would be. So in their eyes, it's better them than someone else.

Yep, VT needs a presence in our recruiting ground. UVA is holding their nose for the same reason, but they'd rather do anything else than risk losing to us. Neither of them will play us in basketball.

We've decided that's why UK won't play us in basketball despite being a couple hours away

UVa is coming to Norfolk... Uppity? No....

(08-30-2022 08:37 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:23 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Perception is reality from a CCU fan complaining about USC/Clemson not traveling to Conway just yesterday is proof of maturing day over day.

This post makes no sense.

Of course the perception everywhere is that Coastal’s in state P5’s are superior to us. I never said anything to the contrary.

But as a Coastal fan, I obviously want us to continually push to change that perception. JMU should as well.

But if you think that I ever thought that anyone perceived us to be on par with Clemson in football, you’re wrong. I know exactly where we stand in the pecking order of perception.

You believe CCU has the facility and the reputation at this stage to warrant hosting Clemson or USC. The reality is you aren't. On the way, but the backlash their AD would receive today would be ugly.

(08-30-2022 01:06 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:37 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:23 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Perception is reality from a CCU fan complaining about USC/Clemson not traveling to Conway just yesterday is proof of maturing day over day.

This post makes no sense.

Of course the perception everywhere is that Coastal’s in state P5’s are superior to us. I never said anything to the contrary.

But as a Coastal fan, I obviously want us to continually push to change that perception. JMU should as well.

But if you think that I ever thought that anyone perceived us to be on par with Clemson in football, you’re wrong. I know exactly where we stand in the pecking order of perception.

You believe CCU has the facility and the reputation at this stage to warrant hosting Clemson or USC. The reality is you aren't. On the way, but the backlash their AD would receive today would be ugly.

Lol the hypocrisy here is funny. But ok.

Mississippi State still schedules USM. They hold a 17-13 win record against USM.
Ole Miss has refused to schedule USM since the last game in 1984. The reason is below.



USM could play with anyone in the country in those days. Now it would be a huge upset to beat OM. Different college football world now. Still OM won't schedule us.
The old alumni that saw us beat them 5 out of the last 7 times we played them in the 70's and 80's just won't let it happen. A shame all the money goes out of state. We could use it. But, to hell with them.

(08-30-2022 02:02 PM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 01:06 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:37 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:23 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Perception is reality from a CCU fan complaining about USC/Clemson not traveling to Conway just yesterday is proof of maturing day over day.

This post makes no sense.

Of course the perception everywhere is that Coastal’s in state P5’s are superior to us. I never said anything to the contrary.

But as a Coastal fan, I obviously want us to continually push to change that perception. JMU should as well.

But if you think that I ever thought that anyone perceived us to be on par with Clemson in football, you’re wrong. I know exactly where we stand in the pecking order of perception.

You believe CCU has the facility and the reputation at this stage to warrant hosting Clemson or USC. The reality is you aren't. On the way, but the backlash their AD would receive today would be ugly.

Lol the hypocrisy here is funny. But ok.

I agree your hypocrisy is hilarious, glad we're on the same page.

(08-30-2022 02:08 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Mississippi State still schedules USM. They hold a 17-13 win record against USM.
Ole Miss has refused to schedule USM since the last game in 1984. The reason is below.



USM could play with anyone in the country in those days. Now it would be a huge upset to beat OM. Different college football world now. Still OM won't schedule us.
The old alumni that saw us beat them 5 out of the last 7 times we played them in the 70's and 80's just won't let it happen. A shame all the money goes out of state. We could use it. But, to hell with them.

Alabama plays USM but not Troy. OM plays Troy but not USM (anymore). So dumb

(08-30-2022 10:05 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 09:16 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:48 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 12:08 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  What's it like to be in a state where the P5's are willing to play long term series against in state schools? Ours would prefer to not acknowledge our existence...

UVA hates it, and I think they're banking on Norfolk falling into the ocean before 2028. VT seems pretty good about it. I was worried about them cancelling it early but we just moved a date for the 2031 season so it seems like they're still committed to it.

The whole Hampton Roads area is fertile recruiting territory. Tech is smart. Easy travel, good fan base in the area for them, lots of recruits. Virginia too uppity to go play at "lowly" ODU. Good for ODU

UVA is playing us at Coastal. They’re not too uppity.

It’s the same phenomenon that we are experience with SCar in our state.

They’ll go play in Boone, but they wouldn’t be caught dead playing in Conway.

Literally the only difference is that we are in state.

That’s why UVA will play at Coastal but not ODU, I would guess.

I should clarify. By too uppity, I meant for a G5 school in state. I used to live in the Hampton Roads area (officiated a lot of great football players). UVA just assumed they had every recruit they wanted from there and looked down their noses at Va Tech (agricultural school). Tech worked, got recruits, and the tide turned in the Tidewater. Been awhile since I have been in the area (2009) but you don't get rid of the bluebloods that easily. They will play Coastal (you have had success) and if they lose, the damage will be minimized. Losing in state to a G5 ODU, in a battle ground for recruits would be too much. Learned to really dislike UVA fans while I lived there. LOL

Very similar to how it is here in Arkansas. Arkansas has no trouble playing us or any other SBC school but they are not about to face Arkansas St. Unlike Virginia though there is not a plethora of FBS talent to begin with. They are not about to take a chance on doing something that would jeopardize their standing as the flagship university in the state.

(08-30-2022 10:05 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 09:16 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  

(08-30-2022 08:48 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 12:08 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-29-2022 11:58 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  What's it like to be in a state where the P5's are willing to play long term series against in state schools? Ours would prefer to not acknowledge our existence...

UVA hates it, and I think they're banking on Norfolk falling into the ocean before 2028. VT seems pretty good about it. I was worried about them cancelling it early but we just moved a date for the 2031 season so it seems like they're still committed to it.

The whole Hampton Roads area is fertile recruiting territory. Tech is smart. Easy travel, good fan base in the area for them, lots of recruits. Virginia too uppity to go play at "lowly" ODU. Good for ODU

UVA is playing us at Coastal. They’re not too uppity.

It’s the same phenomenon that we are experience with SCar in our state.

They’ll go play in Boone, but they wouldn’t be caught dead playing in Conway.

Literally the only difference is that we are in state.

That’s why UVA will play at Coastal but not ODU, I would guess.

I should clarify. By too uppity, I meant for a G5 school in state. I used to live in the Hampton Roads area (officiated a lot of great football players). UVA just assumed they had every recruit they wanted from there and looked down their noses at Va Tech (agricultural school). Tech worked, got recruits, and the tide turned in the Tidewater. Been awhile since I have been in the area (2009) but you don't get rid of the bluebloods that easily. They will play Coastal (you have had success) and if they lose, the damage will be minimized. Losing in state to a G5 ODU, in a battle ground for recruits would be too much. Learned to really dislike UVA fans while I lived there. LOL

You are not wrong in calling them UVA Boohoos uppity. While they are coming to Norfolk in 2028 they definitely are snobby bastards in general. I hope we beat them at their place and may be just may be they will learn to be humble.

UVA people can definitely be snobby, as far as scheduling I would consider VT much worse for avoiding in-state mid-majors/G5/FCS. UVA basketball at least, Tony Bennett has gone on the road in-state quite a bit if I'm not mistaken... Obviously including their loss at JMU last year.

For football I'm surprised we've been able to get either back on the schedule at all. VT had been ducking us ever since we beat them in 2010 and UVA since we beat them in 1982. VT even scheduled CAA member Rhode Island a few years ago when they needed an FCS game and when their AD was asked why they went out of state he said something to the effect that they appreciate how strong the in-state FCS programs are... So I was really surprised to see us get them scheduled for 2025 even before the move. We didn't get UVA back on the schedule(2023) until we moved up and Bourne has heavily implied that they were ducking us. UVA has been so bad for so long it's honestly kinda hard to blame them lol