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"She said a star football player raped her in Blazer Hall. Now, she’s suing UAB."


Quote:she reported the rape to UAB officials, even speaking with three university police officers about the incident. The officers, the lawsuit alleges, did not investigate the claim or take the student’s statement. Instead, according to the lawsuit, an officer told the student “it happens” and walked her back to Blazer Hall, the dormitory where she’d reported having just been raped.


https://www.cbs42.com/alabama-news/she-s...suing-uab/
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The university cited 55 different defenses wow. It something seems odd not to say it’s not true but I’ve never heard of a cop saying “it happens” and also seems like a very weird situation. Hope the truth wins whatever it is
08-03-2022 01:12 PM
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Really odd story. This guy just decided to rape her as she came by for class supplies? They weren't on a date or drunk at a party. There should be a record if the player posted in the chat.

Channel 42 masks her name (as they should), but they give her hometown, alma mater, and her major? People who know her should figure out who this is.

I hope the truth prevails, whatever it is.
08-03-2022 03:25 PM
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If it's true, I hope they lower the boom on the doer. That crap can't be tolerated.
08-03-2022 04:14 PM
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RE: Yikes.
If it’s true the police and administration need to be hammered as well. The written story here is very bizarre and doesn’t make a ton of sense. I can’t believe in this day and age that rape allegations would be dismissed or brushed aside as the story indicates.

Whatever the case may be I hope the truth does come out and anybody involved in some sort of coverup gets the book thrown at them.
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RE: Yikes.
(08-03-2022 05:08 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  If it’s true the police and administration need to be hammered as well. The written story here is very bizarre and doesn’t make a ton of sense. I can’t believe in this day and age that rape allegations would be dismissed or brushed aside as the story indicates.

Whatever the case may be I hope the truth does come out and anybody involved in some sort of coverup gets the book thrown at them.

I agree. If a cover up occurred, the perpetrators should see some jail time along with the “star” player if he is guilty of a rape.
08-03-2022 06:24 PM
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RE: Yikes.
As concerning as this is, even worse is that if true the university didn't learn from a very similar incident 20-odd years ago
08-03-2022 10:34 PM
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(08-03-2022 10:34 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  As concerning as this is, even worse is that if true the university didn't learn from a very similar incident 20-odd years ago

Don’t say her name
08-04-2022 08:10 AM
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(08-03-2022 10:34 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  As concerning as this is, even worse is that if true the university didn't learn from a very similar incident 20-odd years ago

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.

Whether the current administration was here or not, they should learn not only from the past incident but also every other school this has happened at. If the cop really said "it happens" and the police and administration treated it nonchalantly they need their ass fired.

And we had this just 6 years ago unless this is the same incident?
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RE: Yikes.
I've started typing three times today and deleted...

I, too, am skeptical of this. You'd have a hard time convincing me that in the year 2021 a university police officer responded to a rape allegation by saying "it happens," and taking the girl to her dorm. And the university, according to the article, acknowledges that a report was taken. This whole thing seems odd. Add in the fact that this Jane Doe didn't file a Title IX lawsuit, which would be the most logical route for the complaint. It started in state court, and was removed (likely on motion of the university) to federal court. And don't forget, the university has it's hands tied when it comes to responding. The plaintiff can go out and get a reporter to write whatever, and the defendant can't respond in kind. As a general rule, I put little stock in the fact a lawsuit was filed.

And this 2016 incident that was mentioned. Anybody got an article about the outcome? Did the DOE ever bring an action against the university? Was that complaint found to have any merit?
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RE: Yikes.
I can tell you from personal experience that when the system is sued and there is sufficient evidence to prove deviation from acceptable behavior/practice, they settle. It doesn't make it to a courtroom. The fact that there are 55 defense points in the filing tells me they've had plenty of time to pick this case to pieces and are ready to go to the mat on this one.
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RE: Yikes.
In the case from the Brown era, I was defending the University. Turned out our hands weren't completely clean. I will only say this-if a rape occurred, I hope he is hammered. If the university covered it up, I hope someone pays. if its not true....shame
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Agree.
08-05-2022 01:14 PM
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Not good. It means that the prior incident is going to be pulled back out front and center as well.
08-05-2022 05:44 PM
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RE: Yikes.
Goodman can be a sanctimonious ass at times. UAB didnt give me access to everyone I wanted to talk to. No **** did you think they were going to sit down with you in the middle of a lawsuit. No.

I hope this isnt true or if it is someones head rolls for this. If UAB is shown to be in the right dose anyone think We get an apology from Goodman. Nope.
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RE: Yikes.
This isn't a football issue, unless they find somehow the football staff covered this up or hid this, which none of this has been mentioned. The suit accuses the UAB Police, not the UAB coaches so to me this is a hit piece by Joe. If they are both marketing majors, would that be mentioned and the market professors pointed out. No.

Also, he brings up an EX-football player who wasn't even enrolled at UAB when the event happened. It happened at UAB, and does fall under UAB security....but to make a point to say he was a football player and make it sound as if he as on the team at the time is a bit misleading for his own point.

This is a hit piece against the football team the way Joe wrote this, 100%.
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I will not click on a link to that garbage website. Don't know why y'all do...
08-06-2022 06:58 PM
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(08-06-2022 06:58 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  I will not click on a link to that garbage website. Don't know why y'all do...

I'll spare you the pain with a summary: it's a bundle of gibberish and innuendo. Here's a little of it:

The mishandling of sexual assault allegations is a disturbing pattern in higher education. For those reasons alone, this latest lawsuit involving a former student at UAB demands full attention.

Okay, we start with a two-sentence lede, which they teach you in Newswriting 101 is one of those rookie mistakes you never, ever commit. Both of these sentences are also passive structures, which is another mark of a weak writer. This is unacceptable rubbish which should have been re-written by the copy desk, except that Advance Media laid all of them off long ago.

It cannot be ignored.

Oooh, a separate graf for this! Pretentious, much?

Truth to power is what we say in journalism. Justice, we like to believe, is what protects the weak from abuse. When it comes to collegiate athletics, though, there is an inconvenient truth. The apparatus is often considered too big to fail. We’ve seen it at Penn State, Florida State, Baylor, Michigan State … the list goes on. It is a plague spread by an easily corruptible system.

Actually, Joe ('cause I know you read this board), that first sentence is a "sentence fragment," as we say in journalism. The actual phrase is "To speak truth to power," and that's not the issue here. No one is speaking truth to power. The issue is that power is refusing to speak truth. Not the same thing. A weighty issue, to be sure, but it seems to escape Joe's understanding.

The rest of this pretentious drivel . . . good Lord. Every sentence is built around a worn-out cliché.

Now, why does Joe's weak-to-nonexistent grasp of written English matter? I'll tell you why, because I'm on a roll now. First off, "he's arguing," as Counselor Bates would say, "from facts that are not in evidence." And they're not in evidence because he just couldn't get them, and so he's instead written a laundry list of excuses for his abject failure (waah! Fumbles won't talk to me!). He spoke to the plaintiff's attorney and got . . . nothing. He went through University Relations and they wouldn't arrange interviews for him. Waah!

Here's a hint, Joe: call them yourself. Show up at Ingram's damned office. Make him throw you out if he's not going to talk. (Why do you do this, Joe, instead of emailing or texting or IM'ing? Because there's no delete button at the door to Bartow West.) Do the same for Watts, UAB PD and everyone else you wanted spoon-fed to you. In other words, do your damned job. Pull the police report; they're not allowed to deny you (neither are they required to help you find it, but that's your problem). That will have the officers' names. Talk to them.

Now, why does this matter?

Because this is a tremendously serious issue. We here at Blazertalk know that UAB's administration, and the Trustees who oversee them, lie as easily as they breathe. We experienced this first hand.

Something happened to Jane Doe. Something really bad. This cannot, must not be covered up and spoken of by hint and innuendo. But that's probably what's going to happen.

This is sad evidence of what happens when local journalism is destroyed by corporate greed. No one is left to ask the hard questions.

I noticed today that Golden Rule in Irondale is hiring busboys, Joe. You should call them. Or ask their PR department to put you in touch. Or maybe ask Ivana to lend you her brass balls for an afternoon.

Quote:This is a hit piece against the football team the way Joe wrote this, 100%.

It comes across that way thanks to Joe's laziness and lack of ability. But he more likely wrote it this way because he's incapable of the hard work of telling the actual story.

And that, my brothers and sisters, is all I have to say about that.
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That'll leave a mark.
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