(08-08-2022 06:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  It’s the new age. Glad you guys started one. It’s definitely an arms race but honestly it has always been one with coaches pay, facilities and players being funded under hand. Now it’s just the open.

UNT isn't ready to fund our collective at the amount SMU is working at, but it appears we will be looking at the $10,000 to $15,000 range and up to $20,000 for out top talent. But, I'm fairly certain not every player in every sport will be signing with our collective. I'll know more after our meeting in about two weeks. The game is changing fast.

Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

(08-08-2022 06:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  It’s the new age. Glad you guys started one. It’s definitely an arms race but honestly it has always been one with coaches pay, facilities and players being funded under hand. Now it’s just the open.

UNT isn't ready to fund our collective at the amount SMU is working at, but it appears we will be looking at the $10,000 to $15,000 range and up to $20,000 for out top talent. But, I'm fairly certain not every player in every sport will be signing with our collective. I'll know more after our meeting in about two weeks. The game is changing fast.

Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

In theory yes, but it doesn't always happen that way.

(08-08-2022 07:15 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  It’s the new age. Glad you guys started one. It’s definitely an arms race but honestly it has always been one with coaches pay, facilities and players being funded under hand. Now it’s just the open.

UNT isn't ready to fund our collective at the amount SMU is working at, but it appears we will be looking at the $10,000 to $15,000 range and up to $20,000 for out top talent. But, I'm fairly certain not every player in every sport will be signing with our collective. I'll know more after our meeting in about two weeks. The game is changing fast.

Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

In theory yes, but it doesn't always happen that way.

https://youtu.be/S7Xt89mGxqE

Crypto, or it didn’t happen

(08-08-2022 07:24 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:15 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  It’s the new age. Glad you guys started one. It’s definitely an arms race but honestly it has always been one with coaches pay, facilities and players being funded under hand. Now it’s just the open.

UNT isn't ready to fund our collective at the amount SMU is working at, but it appears we will be looking at the $10,000 to $15,000 range and up to $20,000 for out top talent. But, I'm fairly certain not every player in every sport will be signing with our collective. I'll know more after our meeting in about two weeks. The game is changing fast.

Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

In theory yes, but it doesn't always happen that way.

https://youtu.be/S7Xt89mGxqE

You only say that because SMU couldn't buy him away.

You can't honestly tell me you think Lanier (one 20 win season in seven years as a head coach) is better than McCasland (seven 20 win seasons in eight years as a head coach). And Mcasland has yet to post a losing record as a head coach.

20 Win Seasons

McCasland (179-82)
UNT 25-7 (2021-22)
UNT 20-11 (2019-20)
UNT 21-12 (2018-19)
UNT 20-18 (2017-18)
Arkansas State 20-12 (2016-17)
Midwestern State 25-9 (2010-11) [u]DII[/u]
Midwestern State 30-3 (2009-10) DII

Lanier (111-100)
Siena 21-11 (2002-03)

Let's think about this.....

NIL means money for players.
Somebody has to pay for it.
Subscription prices go up.
Middle class pays for it.

Rich get richer.
Middle class gets poorer.

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(08-08-2022 08:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:24 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:15 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  UNT isn't ready to fund our collective at the amount SMU is working at, but it appears we will be looking at the $10,000 to $15,000 range and up to $20,000 for out top talent. But, I'm fairly certain not every player in every sport will be signing with our collective. I'll know more after our meeting in about two weeks. The game is changing fast.

Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

In theory yes, but it doesn't always happen that way.

https://youtu.be/S7Xt89mGxqE

You only say that because SMU couldn't buy him away.

You can't honestly tell me you think Lanier (one 20 win season in seven years as a head coach) is better than McCasland (seven 20 win seasons in eight years as a head coach). And Mcasland has yet to post a losing record as a head coach.

20 Win Seasons

McCasland (179-82)
UNT 25-7 (2021-22)
UNT 20-11 (2019-20)
UNT 21-12 (2018-19)
UNT 20-18 (2017-18)
Arkansas State 20-12 (2016-17)
Midwestern State 25-9 (2010-11) [u]DII[/u]
Midwestern State 30-3 (2009-10) DII

Lanier (111-100)
Siena 21-11 (2002-03)

Lanier has six figure deals to hand out while you give out four figure deals

(08-08-2022 08:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 08:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:24 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:15 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

In theory yes, but it doesn't always happen that way.

https://youtu.be/S7Xt89mGxqE

You only say that because SMU couldn't buy him away.

You can't honestly tell me you think Lanier (one 20 win season in seven years as a head coach) is better than McCasland (seven 20 win seasons in eight years as a head coach). And Mcasland has yet to post a losing record as a head coach.

20 Win Seasons

McCasland (179-82)
UNT 25-7 (2021-22)
UNT 20-11 (2019-20)
UNT 21-12 (2018-19)
UNT 20-18 (2017-18)
Arkansas State 20-12 (2016-17)
Midwestern State 25-9 (2010-11) [u]DII[/u]
Midwestern State 30-3 (2009-10) DII

Lanier (111-100)
Siena 21-11 (2002-03)

Lanier has six figure deals to hand out while you give out four figure deals

No. UNT will be handing out 5 figure deals. And you fail to factor in the fact that you can only place 13 players on scholarship. There are more than 13 great players in the Dallas region alone. Plus, you fail to factor the in-game coaching adjustments. I think the records and stats prove McCasland to be better in that area.

Due to your new NIL arrangements, SMU will certainly continue to have an advantage over UNT in football (unless a really big money UNT donor like Ryan makes it his personal goal to have us keep pace), but I don't see it impacting basketball as much. There's just more talent available. SMU can't buy it all, and UNT has the better coach.

(08-08-2022 09:50 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 08:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 08:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:24 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:15 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  In theory yes, but it doesn't always happen that way.

https://youtu.be/S7Xt89mGxqE

You only say that because SMU couldn't buy him away.

You can't honestly tell me you think Lanier (one 20 win season in seven years as a head coach) is better than McCasland (seven 20 win seasons in eight years as a head coach). And Mcasland has yet to post a losing record as a head coach.

20 Win Seasons

McCasland (179-82)
UNT 25-7 (2021-22)
UNT 20-11 (2019-20)
UNT 21-12 (2018-19)
UNT 20-18 (2017-18)
Arkansas State 20-12 (2016-17)
Midwestern State 25-9 (2010-11) [u]DII[/u]
Midwestern State 30-3 (2009-10) DII

Lanier (111-100)
Siena 21-11 (2002-03)

Lanier has six figure deals to hand out while you give out four figure deals

No. UNT will be handing out 5 figure deals. And you fail to factor in the fact that you can only place 13 players on scholarship. There are more than 13 great players in the Dallas region alone. Plus, you fail to factor the in-game coaching adjustments. I think the records and stats prove McCasland to be better in that area.

Due to your new NIL arrangements, SMU will certainly continue to have an advantage over UNT in football (unless a really big money UNT donor like Ryan makes it his personal goal to have us keep pace), but I don't see it impacting basketball as much. There's just more talent available. SMU can;t but it all, and UNT has the better coach.

What is it like being in an unrequited relationship, your message board is nothing but Smu thread after Smu thread and you go to our boards and there’s nothing about your school

(08-08-2022 06:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  It’s the new age. Glad you guys started one. It’s definitely an arms race but honestly it has always been one with coaches pay, facilities and players being funded under hand. Now it’s just the open.

UNT isn't ready to fund our collective at the amount SMU is working at, but it appears we will be looking at the $10,000 to $15,000 range and up to $20,000 for out top talent. But, I'm fairly certain not every player in every sport will be signing with our collective. I'll know more after our meeting in about two weeks. The game is changing fast.

Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

Any benefits? Cars? Stock options?

(08-08-2022 10:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 09:50 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 08:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 08:05 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 07:24 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  https://youtu.be/S7Xt89mGxqE

You only say that because SMU couldn't buy him away.

You can't honestly tell me you think Lanier (one 20 win season in seven years as a head coach) is better than McCasland (seven 20 win seasons in eight years as a head coach). And Mcasland has yet to post a losing record as a head coach.

20 Win Seasons

McCasland (179-82)
UNT 25-7 (2021-22)
UNT 20-11 (2019-20)
UNT 21-12 (2018-19)
UNT 20-18 (2017-18)
Arkansas State 20-12 (2016-17)
Midwestern State 25-9 (2010-11) [u]DII[/u]
Midwestern State 30-3 (2009-10) DII

Lanier (111-100)
Siena 21-11 (2002-03)

Lanier has six figure deals to hand out while you give out four figure deals

No. UNT will be handing out 5 figure deals. And you fail to factor in the fact that you can only place 13 players on scholarship. There are more than 13 great players in the Dallas region alone. Plus, you fail to factor the in-game coaching adjustments. I think the records and stats prove McCasland to be better in that area.

Due to your new NIL arrangements, SMU will certainly continue to have an advantage over UNT in football (unless a really big money UNT donor like Ryan makes it his personal goal to have us keep pace), but I don't see it impacting basketball as much. There's just more talent available. SMU can;t but it all, and UNT has the better coach.

What is it like being in an unrequited relationship, your message board is nothing but Smu thread after Smu thread and you go to our boards and there’s nothing about your school

I wouldn't know. I don't go to your board(s). I don't care that much about SMU. I only keep tabs on SMU because we share the same media market, and now conference.

It must suck to have played 78 years in the great Southwest Conference, and have your most notable accomplishment be "the Death Penalty".

Unlike many UNT fans, I have no hate for SMU. You are simple a regional competitor. I do believe SMU will receive an invitation to the PAC when they finally come down from their high horse and realize their expansion targets won't be from the Big12 or ACC. Dallas is valuable and will only grow more valuable as the population continues to boom. By 2032, DFW will be the 3rd largest Media market behind only New York and LA. But, if the BIG10 and Big12 gut the PAC, SMU may end up regretting a move to the PAC. Waiting for the ACC to take their haircut is probably the better long term play.

(08-08-2022 10:25 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 06:36 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:59 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  It’s the new age. Glad you guys started one. It’s definitely an arms race but honestly it has always been one with coaches pay, facilities and players being funded under hand. Now it’s just the open.

UNT isn't ready to fund our collective at the amount SMU is working at, but it appears we will be looking at the $10,000 to $15,000 range and up to $20,000 for out top talent. But, I'm fairly certain not every player in every sport will be signing with our collective. I'll know more after our meeting in about two weeks. The game is changing fast.

Our third stringers will make $36,000 so we will just keep raiding you.

Any benefits? Cars? Stock options?

Gold Trans-Am's, but they're shipped in from a dealership in College Station.

now that north Texas state has there prioririties strait know won is going to competeat with them on thee NIL