Pete Thamel: Talks about a partnership between the Big 12 and the Pac-12, which had been discussed extensively the past two weeks, have officially ended, sources told ESPN...
A Big 12 source said that the deal didn't work for the Big 12 for "a multitude of reasons," which included the fact that any potential deal wouldn't have driven much revenue for the league. "It just didn't work," the source said.
(07-18-2022 08:48 PM)Gitanole Wrote: Pete Thamel: Talks about a partnership between the Big 12 and the Pac-12, which had been discussed extensively the past two weeks, have officially ended, sources told ESPN...
A Big 12 source said that the deal didn't work for the Big 12 for "a multitude of reasons," which included the fact that any potential deal wouldn't have driven much revenue for the league. "It just didn't work," the source said.
The odds of alternate scenarios just increased: ACC expansion westward, or the dissolution of all three conferences to form a new association of schools to inherit ACCN.
(This post was last modified: 07-18-2022 09:16 PM by Gitanole.)
The article says that a scheduling arrangement between the ACC and the PAC 12 was underwhelming. I wonder why they did not ask the networks what a full merger of the ACC would produce. Maybe they did ask but I think we all know what the answer would be.
(07-18-2022 08:48 PM)Gitanole Wrote: Pete Thamel: Talks about a partnership between the Big 12 and the Pac-12, which had been discussed extensively the past two weeks, have officially ended, sources told ESPN...
A Big 12 source said that the deal didn't work for the Big 12 for "a multitude of reasons," which included the fact that any potential deal wouldn't have driven much revenue for the league. "It just didn't work," the source said.
The odds of alternate scenarios just increased: ACC expansion westward, or the dissolution of all three conferences to form a new association of schools to inherit ACCN.
Mergers mean the higher valued properties give away too much. You have to be equally valued and have synergy to merge.
The B12 is much better off adding the two Arizonas, Utah, and Colorado. Small but effective, with added value. Oregon and Washington would have left the moment the Big 10 called, and OSU and WSU don't add. Besides Cal wouldn't go for it anyway.
Should the SEC and B1G take enough ACC schools to dissolve it. A 20 school B12 or ACC becomes very doable for that 3rd P conference.
Just like all of you, I have no idea what is going to happen, but for some reason, I get the feeling that the Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, and Utah to the Big 12 scenario has probably gained some steam.
Will B12 and ACC compete to get best of the Pac conference? Does Commish Jim care to do that? Should Commish Jim be fired and replaced this summer for the continued fumbling and bumbling since his day 1?.....Stay tuned folks
This sounds to me like the PAC has found a better offer and this is the B12 way of saving face. Its like when a coach removes his name from consideration when the job hes trying to get chooses another candidate. He removes his name from consideration and a day or two later the school announces its new coach. If Im right, I expect an announcement soon from from the ACC and the PAC.
(07-19-2022 08:31 AM)cuseroc Wrote: This sounds to me like the PAC has found a better offer and this is the B12 way of saving face. Its like when a coach removes his name from consideration when the job hes trying to get chooses another candidate. He removes his name from consideration and a day or two later the school announces its new coach. If Im right, I expect an announcement soon from from the ACC and the PAC.
(07-19-2022 09:45 AM)Lou_C Wrote: One step closer to Oregon and Washington to the ACC...
POLAR OPPOSITES
I have difficulty deciphering your comments a lot of the time.
Would you mind explaining in English since as I understand it the phrase "polar opposites'' are definitive things like Love and Hate, War and Peace, etc. Other than being on the opposite coast both Oregon and Washington are very much ACC-like institutions.
And in terms of the NEW-NOW Oregon and Miami will have great commonality with NIL.
(07-19-2022 09:45 AM)Lou_C Wrote: One step closer to Oregon and Washington to the ACC...
POLAR OPPOSITES
I have difficulty deciphering your comments a lot of the time.
Would you mind explaining in English since as I understand it the phrase "polar opposites'' are definitive things like Love and Hate, War and Peace, etc. Other than being on the opposite coast both Oregon and Washington are very much ACC-like institutions.
And in terms of the NEW-NOW Oregon and Miami will have great commonality with NIL.
Cheers,
Neil
I don't think green has a firm grasp on the concepts of "polar" or "opposite".
Oregon and Washington are both similar to ACC schools, and what's more, they both play very good football.
(07-19-2022 08:31 AM)cuseroc Wrote: This sounds to me like the PAC has found a better offer and this is the B12 way of saving face. Its like when a coach removes his name from consideration when the job hes trying to get chooses another candidate. He removes his name from consideration and a day or two later the school announces its new coach. If Im right, I expect an announcement soon from from the ACC and the PAC.
My impression is that not all Pac schools want the ACC. Jon Wilner rather wants to see the Pac expand (probably SDSU) and survive. That’s probably California schools’ position.
John Canzano, Oregon guy, is a bullish about the ACC and still expects a media partnership between the Pac and the ACC.
But, Thamel of ESPN doesn’t think the partnership would be that profitable. I suspect the ESPN rather wants to move Oregon and UW to the ACC. Unless the BIG changes the mind, Oregon’s best option in my opinion is to sign the GoR and join the ACC. And once Orgeon and UW joins the ACC, others will follow.
We just need to wait until Oregon figures out that the invitation from the BIG would never come.
(This post was last modified: 07-19-2022 12:15 PM by random asian guy.)
