(06-24-2022 08:36 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:22 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:59 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:12 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:05 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  CUSA might be smart going to 12 with Tarleton (WAC), EKU (ASUN) and Chattanooga (OVC) since they are acceptable fill-ins and put more pressure on other WAC, ASUN and OVC schools to consider moving up to get out of their situations.

12 might also help CUSA with its TV deal.

No question we are getting to the end of the line for viable FCS callups out of the south and to join CUSA. MWC could pull in the entire Big Sky and the Dakotas. SBC could pull the entire CUSA and Missouri St + EKU, Tarleton, SFA, Chattanooga if they needed them and they are already at 14 teams.

MWC and SBC have TV deals those from FCS would find quite attractive and willing to expand stadiums for. CUSA seems like its a hard pass unless a school is in the WAC, ASun or maybe OVC because of the instability.

They've already crossed that line

Maybe they can find a diamond in the rough like Coastal Carolina.

The rough usually has only one diamond unfortunately.

It’s called Liberty University. Unlike Coastal Carolina, Liberty has the money to compete in both revenue sports and I expect them to dominate C-USA 4.0 the way Boise State dominated the WAC. And basketball should be way better now that the deadweight is leaving. I’d put C-USA 4.0 basketball above the MAC and Sun Belt. Just UTEP and NMSU combined have more NCAA’s than the entire Sun Belt combined.

I was talking about a diamond out of the deep, endless reservoir of FCS/DII call ups that will protect CUSA as an FBS conference forever.

I do agree in the 3-5 year outlook it could be better for CUSA than some expect because of the factors above. Maybe Liberty could make a NYD bowl.

But does the MAC see that and say gee with WKU/LU we could get a MWC sized TV deal when the contract is up and offer both? WKU we know takes a MAC offer in a heartbeat but Liberty might do so too for the stake of stability. SBC already has two in Virginia and the AAC wants metro universities only.

FIU could also be appealing to the AAC, SBC and MAC under the right scenario.

One of the problems is CUSA is a threat to lose members from any of the other 4 G5 conferences should there be some movement. SBC might lose a team to the AAC but they've got 30 potential in-fills.

I had that same thought about Liberty also, Kit-Cat. The question is though: do the MAC presidents want a member that is a political 180 from them?? I know that we have talked about politics being important in the Pac12, but I have to wonder if they play a role in the MAC as well. Then again, the MAC did invite UCF...

(06-24-2022 09:31 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  Think about the potential inventory for the MWC and the stark contrast.

1) If the AAC takes a hit SMU could be on the menu.
2) NMSU and UTEP would sign on immediately without checking the ToS.
3) The entire Big Sky under any circumstance would move up.
4) Half the Big West would consider adding FB for it.
5) Also there are a LOT of big enrollment schools out west in DII.

The south by comparison has been stripped clean of move ups.

football-wise maybe. There at least one other southern team out there that might consider and/or accept a C-USA invitation: North Alabama. They actually do have a decent media market in Huntsville, Alabama. Huntsville is a pretty good sized city, so I wouldn't say that they are anything to sneeze at. Stadium is a huge issue though. According to what an UNA fan told me, Troy University actually encouraged them to move up, so maybe Troy University views them as throwback version of themselves, a very good thing, IMO. UNA doesn't really fit the profile of the SoCon or the Southland, so that could light a fire under UNA's butt to expand the stadium. UNA also has a longstanding rivalry with Jax State (aka Jacksonville State), so that could be good for inventory also. I wonder if Jackson State might be available soon too...?

(06-25-2022 12:26 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:36 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:22 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:59 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:12 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  They've already crossed that line

Maybe they can find a diamond in the rough like Coastal Carolina.

The rough usually has only one diamond unfortunately.

It’s called Liberty University. Unlike Coastal Carolina, Liberty has the money to compete in both revenue sports and I expect them to dominate C-USA 4.0 the way Boise State dominated the WAC. And basketball should be way better now that the deadweight is leaving. I’d put C-USA 4.0 basketball above the MAC and Sun Belt. Just UTEP and NMSU combined have more NCAA’s than the entire Sun Belt combined.

I was talking about a diamond out of the deep, endless reservoir of FCS/DII call ups that will protect CUSA as an FBS conference forever.

I do agree in the 3-5 year outlook it could be better for CUSA than some expect because of the factors above. Maybe Liberty could make a NYD bowl.

But does the MAC see that and say gee with WKU/LU we could get a MWC sized TV deal when the contract is up and offer both? WKU we know takes a MAC offer in a heartbeat but Liberty might do so too for the stake of stability. SBC already has two in Virginia and the AAC wants metro universities only.

FIU could also be appealing to the AAC, SBC and MAC under the right scenario.

One of the problems is CUSA is a threat to lose members from any of the other 4 G5 conferences should there be some movement. SBC might lose a team to the AAC but they've got 30 potential in-fills.

I had that same thought about Liberty also, Kit-Cat. The question is though: do the MAC presidents want a member that is a political 180 from them?? I know that we have talked about politics being important in the Pac12, but I have to wonder if they play a role in the MAC as well. Then again, the MAC did invite UCF...

I can't answer that as I've never heard Liberty's name come up before in a media report on MAC realignment.

What I have heard is the MAC won't expand at this point after the FB only fiascos if it costs them a dime more to do it. That is if the money is sufficient enough a lot of possibilities would be on the table.

(06-24-2022 05:51 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  A repost from another thread I thought was worth looking at because many are assuming their is a deep reservoir of FCS/DII schools in the southern CUSA footprint ready to move up on a dime. It doesn't seem to be that many in all honesty.

How many public, low-mid major, non-HBCUs FCS programs are left in the footprint that have 10,000+ students?

FCS
Kennesaw St. (41,181) Cap: 8,318
Central Arkansas (11,487) Cap: 10,000
Eastern Kentucky (14,465) Cap: 20,000
Northwestern St. (11,081) Cap: 15,971
Western Carolina (12,243) Cap: 13,742
Chattanooga (11,638) Cap: 20,412
East Tennessee (17,296) Cap: 7,694
Tennessee Tech (10,054) Cap: 16,500
Lamar (16,191) Cap: 16,000
Tarleton St (13,996) Cap: 15,000
Stephen F. Austin (11,946) Cap: 14,575
TAMU-Commerce (12,385) Cap: 13,500

DII
West Georgia (13,733) Cap: 10,000
West Florida (12,850) Cap: 5,038
Valdosta St. (11,220) Cap: 11,249
Angelo St (10,477) Cap: 5,870
West Texas A&M (10,169) Cap: 8,500

The only FCS to CUSA transition candidates that meet both 10k enrollment and 15k stadium size are Eastern Kentucky, Northwestern St, Chattanooga, Tennessee Tech, Lamar and SFA. That is only 7 schools. With Northwestern St. and Lamar committed to a regional SLC they are effectively off the table.

EKU, Tarleton and SFA are pretty much about IT unless Kennesaw gets off its duff and builds a bigger FB stadium. CUSA has 9 at the moment and that makes 12 with EKU, Tarleton and SFA in the conference.

17 schools in the footprint have the 10k but at lot of them just barely. Only 5 of them have 13,000 students. The smallest MAC school by comparison is 15.5k (CMU).

The schools that have signed up for CUSA 4.0 so far were WAC/ASun FBS hopefuls; New Mexico St, Sam Houston St, Liberty, Jacksonville St. Others that didn't get the call up yet are SFA, Tarleton and Eastern Kentucky. Institutions that are already in poor geography with WAC or Atlantic Sun and might as well be in CUSA w/ an acceptable profile.

UCA
EKU
Chattanooga
Lamar
Tarleton State
SFAU
McNeese State
Missouri State
NDSU
North Carolina A&T
Tennessee State
Youngstown State
Stony Brook
Abilene Christian
North Alabama
Dayton

All these schools mentioned going FBS.
There seems to be interests between Missouri State and SBC. Chattanooga could be 16.

Other D2 schools that could fit.
Central Oklahoma they are expanding to 12,000 seats right now, and have plans to go 20,000.
Angelo State
UTPB
Central Missouri
Arkansas Tech

(06-25-2022 02:14 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 05:51 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  A repost from another thread I thought was worth looking at because many are assuming their is a deep reservoir of FCS/DII schools in the southern CUSA footprint ready to move up on a dime. It doesn't seem to be that many in all honesty.

How many public, low-mid major, non-HBCUs FCS programs are left in the footprint that have 10,000+ students?

FCS
Kennesaw St. (41,181) Cap: 8,318
Central Arkansas (11,487) Cap: 10,000
Eastern Kentucky (14,465) Cap: 20,000
Northwestern St. (11,081) Cap: 15,971
Western Carolina (12,243) Cap: 13,742
Chattanooga (11,638) Cap: 20,412
East Tennessee (17,296) Cap: 7,694
Tennessee Tech (10,054) Cap: 16,500
Lamar (16,191) Cap: 16,000
Tarleton St (13,996) Cap: 15,000
Stephen F. Austin (11,946) Cap: 14,575
TAMU-Commerce (12,385) Cap: 13,500

DII
West Georgia (13,733) Cap: 10,000
West Florida (12,850) Cap: 5,038
Valdosta St. (11,220) Cap: 11,249
Angelo St (10,477) Cap: 5,870
West Texas A&M (10,169) Cap: 8,500

The only FCS to CUSA transition candidates that meet both 10k enrollment and 15k stadium size are Eastern Kentucky, Northwestern St, Chattanooga, Tennessee Tech, Lamar and SFA. That is only 7 schools. With Northwestern St. and Lamar committed to a regional SLC they are effectively off the table.

EKU, Tarleton and SFA are pretty much about IT unless Kennesaw gets off its duff and builds a bigger FB stadium. CUSA has 9 at the moment and that makes 12 with EKU, Tarleton and SFA in the conference.

17 schools in the footprint have the 10k but at lot of them just barely. Only 5 of them have 13,000 students. The smallest MAC school by comparison is 15.5k (CMU).

The schools that have signed up for CUSA 4.0 so far were WAC/ASun FBS hopefuls; New Mexico St, Sam Houston St, Liberty, Jacksonville St. Others that didn't get the call up yet are SFA, Tarleton and Eastern Kentucky. Institutions that are already in poor geography with WAC or Atlantic Sun and might as well be in CUSA w/ an acceptable profile.

UCA
EKU
Chattanooga
Lamar
Tarleton State
SFAU

All these schools mentioned going FBS.
There seems to be interests between Missouri State and SBC. Chattanooga could be 16.

Other D2 schools that could fit.
Central Oklahoma they are expanding to 12,000 seats right now, and have plans to go 20,000.
Angelo State

Take away the out of geography ones and its a short list.

(06-25-2022 12:26 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:36 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:22 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:59 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:12 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  They've already crossed that line

Maybe they can find a diamond in the rough like Coastal Carolina.

The rough usually has only one diamond unfortunately.

It’s called Liberty University. Unlike Coastal Carolina, Liberty has the money to compete in both revenue sports and I expect them to dominate C-USA 4.0 the way Boise State dominated the WAC. And basketball should be way better now that the deadweight is leaving. I’d put C-USA 4.0 basketball above the MAC and Sun Belt. Just UTEP and NMSU combined have more NCAA’s than the entire Sun Belt combined.

I was talking about a diamond out of the deep, endless reservoir of FCS/DII call ups that will protect CUSA as an FBS conference forever.

I do agree in the 3-5 year outlook it could be better for CUSA than some expect because of the factors above. Maybe Liberty could make a NYD bowl.

But does the MAC see that and say gee with WKU/LU we could get a MWC sized TV deal when the contract is up and offer both? WKU we know takes a MAC offer in a heartbeat but Liberty might do so too for the stake of stability. SBC already has two in Virginia and the AAC wants metro universities only.

FIU could also be appealing to the AAC, SBC and MAC under the right scenario.

One of the problems is CUSA is a threat to lose members from any of the other 4 G5 conferences should there be some movement. SBC might lose a team to the AAC but they've got 30 potential in-fills.

I had that same thought about Liberty also, Kit-Cat. The question is though: do the MAC presidents want a member that is a political 180 from them?? I know that we have talked about politics being important in the Pac12, but I have to wonder if they play a role in the MAC as well. Then again, the MAC did invite UCF...

But as a Football only member, since they were already playing 3-4 MAC games a year as an indy.

(06-24-2022 06:05 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  CUSA might be smart going to 12 with Tarleton (WAC), EKU (ASUN) and Chattanooga (OVC) since they are acceptable fill-ins and put more pressure on other WAC, ASUN and OVC schools to consider moving up to get out of their situations.

12 might also help CUSA with its TV deal.

No question we are getting to the end of the line for viable FCS callups out of the south and to join CUSA. MWC could pull in the entire Big Sky and the Dakotas. SBC could pull the entire CUSA and Missouri St + EKU, Tarleton, SFA, Chattanooga if they needed them and they are already at 14 teams.

MWC and SBC have TV deals those from FCS would find quite attractive and willing to expand stadiums for. CUSA seems like its a hard pass unless a school is in the WAC, ASun or maybe OVC because of the instability.

Adding to get to 10 or 12 could make sense, from a survivable future point of view. Adding now would give the adds time to build. I doubt it would matter much for TV.

(06-25-2022 12:14 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  Do you think the SEC will be comfortable with CUSA earning a full CFP money cut at only 9 members?

Your whole argument is 180 degrees backwards. The way it's set up now, CUSA at 9 takes less CFP cut because of our size. If the P5 want more of the cut (and when do they not) they'd be more likely to go the other direction. Cap the payouts to conferences at a set amount or set amount per school. In that scenario smaller is better.

(06-25-2022 12:22 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:06 PM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:05 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  CUSA might be smart going to 12 with Tarleton (WAC), EKU (ASUN) and Chattanooga (OVC) since they are acceptable fill-ins and put more pressure on other WAC, ASUN and OVC schools to consider moving up to get out of their situations.

Chattanooga is in the SoCon, not the OVC. Also with the SoCon adding a $2 million exit fee, I'm not sure Chattanooga would leave for C-USA. Maybe SBC or MAC if offered (not likely), but I don't think they would for C-USA.

Chattanooga wouldn't move to the SBC. Fortunately, we don't need them now. Chattanooga is probably a SoCon lifer (will stay in the SoCon no matter what)

Believe it or not, Chattanooga was contacted by the Sun Belt around the same time as App and Georgia Southern. Chattanooga told the SBC they weren't interested. I think the SBC ship has sailed now, and it's not coming back for the Mocs.

https://www.local3news.com/utc-committed...a51b9.html

As for C-USA, it seems like Eastern Kentucky and Tarleton State are next.

(06-24-2022 09:43 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  When you don't have good expansion prospects in your southern footprint, you move the footprint.

I said a few months ago when CUSA was scrambling for survival that its best move strategically would have been to (1) work with FIU to put the Panthers on a path toward football-only membership, and then (2) push the conference footprint into the upper Midwest and Dakotas with additions from the MVFC.

The conference won't be able to carve out any kind of identity if it remains rooted in Texas and the Southeast, where multiple P5 and G5 conferences already hold sway. IMHO CUSA's best expansion prospects are schools like Missouri State, Indiana State, Illinois State, Northern Iowa, North Dakota State and South Dakota State. None of those may be willing to come alone but some may be willing to come as a group.

Western Kentucky and MTSU would have been better off if they could have persuaded the entire Missouri Valley Conference to move up to FBS and include them. But La Tech, UTEP and FIU wouldn't have fit there, nor would any of the schools CUSA added out of desperation.

(06-25-2022 12:39 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 09:31 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  Think about the potential inventory for the MWC and the stark contrast.

1) If the AAC takes a hit SMU could be on the menu.
2) NMSU and UTEP would sign on immediately without checking the ToS.
3) The entire Big Sky under any circumstance would move up.
4) Half the Big West would consider adding FB for it.
5) Also there are a LOT of big enrollment schools out west in DII.

The south by comparison has been stripped clean of move ups.

football-wise maybe. There at least one other southern team out there that might consider and/or accept a C-USA invitation: North Alabama. They actually do have a decent media market in Huntsville, Alabama. Huntsville is a pretty good sized city, so I wouldn't say that they are anything to sneeze at. Stadium is a huge issue though. According to what an UNA fan told me, Troy University actually encouraged them to move up, so maybe Troy University views them as throwback version of themselves, a very good thing, IMO. UNA doesn't really fit the profile of the SoCon or the Southland, so that could light a fire under UNA's butt to expand the stadium. UNA also has a longstanding rivalry with Jax State (aka Jacksonville State), so that could be good for inventory also. I wonder if Jackson State might be available soon too...?

Huntsville is now the largest city in alabama.

(06-25-2022 08:31 AM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  Huntsville is now the largest city in alabama.

US rank by metro area population:
50. Birmingham: 1.115M
111. Huntsville: 491.7k
126. Mobile: 430.2k
142. Montgomery: 386.0k
184. Tuscaloosa: 268.7k
200. Daphne-Fairhope-Foley: 231.8k

(06-25-2022 09:31 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 08:31 AM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  Huntsville is now the largest city in alabama.

US rank by metro area population:
50. Birmingham: 1.115M
111. Huntsville: 491.7k
126. Mobile: 430.2k
142. Montgomery: 386.0k
184. Tuscaloosa: 268.7k
200. Daphne-Fairhope-Foley: 231.8k

In fairness to JSUCleburneslim, he did say largest city in Alabama, which Huntsville might actually meet that in terms of largest population within city limits. However, when it comes to the full size of the actual metropolitan area, Birmingham is still #1. Didn't know Huntsville beat Mobile for #2 though, in terms of total population. That is interesting!!! And it goes to prove my point that C-USA should look at UNA, IMO.

(06-25-2022 12:43 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 12:26 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:36 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 08:22 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(06-24-2022 06:59 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  Maybe they can find a diamond in the rough like Coastal Carolina.

The rough usually has only one diamond unfortunately.

It’s called Liberty University. Unlike Coastal Carolina, Liberty has the money to compete in both revenue sports and I expect them to dominate C-USA 4.0 the way Boise State dominated the WAC. And basketball should be way better now that the deadweight is leaving. I’d put C-USA 4.0 basketball above the MAC and Sun Belt. Just UTEP and NMSU combined have more NCAA’s than the entire Sun Belt combined.

I was talking about a diamond out of the deep, endless reservoir of FCS/DII call ups that will protect CUSA as an FBS conference forever.

I do agree in the 3-5 year outlook it could be better for CUSA than some expect because of the factors above. Maybe Liberty could make a NYD bowl.

But does the MAC see that and say gee with WKU/LU we could get a MWC sized TV deal when the contract is up and offer both? WKU we know takes a MAC offer in a heartbeat but Liberty might do so too for the stake of stability. SBC already has two in Virginia and the AAC wants metro universities only.

FIU could also be appealing to the AAC, SBC and MAC under the right scenario.

One of the problems is CUSA is a threat to lose members from any of the other 4 G5 conferences should there be some movement. SBC might lose a team to the AAC but they've got 30 potential in-fills.

I had that same thought about Liberty also, Kit-Cat. The question is though: do the MAC presidents want a member that is a political 180 from them?? I know that we have talked about politics being important in the Pac12, but I have to wonder if they play a role in the MAC as well. Then again, the MAC did invite UCF...

I can't answer that as I've never heard Liberty's name come up before in a media report on MAC realignment.

What I have heard is the MAC won't expand at this point after the FB only fiascos if it costs them a dime more to do it. That is if the money is sufficient enough a lot of possibilities would be on the table.

Like MTSU, I’m sure Liberty has bigger aspirations than the MAC.

The MAC is the type of conference that accepted its ceiling a long time ago. Nothing wrong with that. There might be one perhaps two schools that have any realistic chance in moving up. The rest know they have nowhere to go. The same applies to the Sun Belt now.

(06-25-2022 09:31 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(06-25-2022 08:31 AM)JSUCleburneslim Wrote:  Huntsville is now the largest city in alabama.

US rank by metro area population:
50. Birmingham: 1.115M
111. Huntsville: 491.7k
126. Mobile: 430.2k
142. Montgomery: 386.0k
184. Tuscaloosa: 268.7k
200. Daphne-Fairhope-Foley: 231.8k

He stated city not metro area. Like Jacksonville being the largest city in Florida even though Miami-Fort Lauderdale is the biggest metro area in the state.

(06-25-2022 10:24 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  In fairness to JSUCleburneslim, he did say largest city in Alabama, which Huntsville might actually meet that in terms of largest population within city limits. However, when it comes to the full size of the actual metropolitan area, Birmingham is still #1. Didn't know Huntsville beat Mobile for #2 though, in terms of total population. That is interesting!!! And it goes to prove my point that C-USA should look at UNA, IMO.

(06-25-2022 10:36 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  He stated city not metro area. Like Jacksonville being the largest city in Florida even though Miami-Fort Lauderdale is the biggest metro area in the state.

Just providing an additional data point ... nothing more, nothing less

I would say no to Upgrade options but there are options.

Getting to 10 only helps with the new upcoming CFP contract.

The other is timing with the a new TV contract is not an ideal. Hoping the best for CUSA. I have no clue about the leadership or the commissioner of the conference, but at they need to be at the top of their game right now.

My list for a 10th Team
Eastern Kentucky (14,465) Cap: 20,000
Tarleton St (13,996) Cap: 15,000
Stephen F. Austin (11,946) Cap: 14,575
NC A&T (11,300) Cap 24,500 would be who I go after. Could easily get 15K ticket sales with corporate sponsors for seats.

(06-25-2022 11:43 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I would say no to Upgrade options but there are options.

Getting to 10 only helps with the new upcoming CFP contract.

The other is timing with the a new TV contract is not an ideal. Hoping the best for CUSA. I have no clue about the leadership or the commissioner of the conference, but at they need to be at the top of their game right now.

My list for a 10th Team
Eastern Kentucky (14,465) Cap: 20,000
Tarleton St (13,996) Cap: 15,000
Stephen F. Austin (11,946) Cap: 14,575
NC A&T (11,300) Cap 24,500 would be who I go after. Could easily get 15K ticket sales with corporate sponsors for seats.

Eastern Kentucky and Tarleton State made their presentation and were told the conference won’t expand at the moment but they’ll be considered in the future. In other words, they’re done with all the formalities for admission. They just have to wait for the phone call from the C-USA office in Frisco, TX if they decide to expand.

To answer OP's question "Does CUSA really have a lot of upgrade options?"

No.

There are zero "upgrade" options vs. teams that have departed. There are programs that bring certain positives to the table, but none that I would call an upgrade over the programs leaving C-USA.

(06-25-2022 11:43 AM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I would say no to Upgrade options but there are options.

Getting to 10 only helps with the new upcoming CFP contract.

The other is timing with the a new TV contract is not an ideal. Hoping the best for CUSA. I have no clue about the leadership or the commissioner of the conference, but at they need to be at the top of their game right now.

My list for a 10th Team
Eastern Kentucky (14,465) Cap: 20,000
Tarleton St (13,996) Cap: 15,000
Stephen F. Austin (11,946) Cap: 14,575
NC A&T (11,300) Cap 24,500 would be who I go after. Could easily get 15K ticket sales with corporate sponsors for seats.

While Tarleton St is in transition from div 2 to fcs, they are in the process of expanding their fb stadium to 24k. They are approved to build a new 7,500 seat event center (basketball). They will eventually be fbs.