I’ll be completely honest, I’ve basically spent my entire football watching life looking at the Big 12 box scores hoping to see that Texas and Oklahoma lost—and I wasn’t even a fan of a Big 12 school. I ge the feeling most everyone else in the league wanted to see those 2 lose too.
Will the Big 12 have a villain in the future…or will we just be watching the scrolling scores hoping to see those two take some beatings in the SEC?
I don't think anyone short term will be the villian. I expect someone would have to become dominate over all the rest to get there. I really don't see that happening any time soon.
WVU and Cincy will quickly become the most toxic rivalry in the conference.
All of Ohio looks down on West Virginia and the WVU fan base has always looked down on Cincy. What makes the rivalry more fun is they are constantly competing for recruits in Ohio and Cincy has been dominating WVU in that regard recently. WVU fans are also pretty convinced that an ACC invite will eventually come and are paranoid that Cincy would now get an invite over them now that they are in a power conference again.
Both these fan bases really dislike each other, and the old Big East days were pretty nasty. The overall collection of Louisville, Pitt, WVU, and Cincy in the Big East were some great rivalries.
(06-16-2022 03:12 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: See…there’s at least something we can agree on!
I shouldn’t be surprised at OU, although I’d definitely had more of a bond with them than I had Texas.
My hope is that whatever scheduling model they come up with, the remaining Big 8 members wind up on the same block. Something like this:
Cincy
Houston
UCF
West Virginia
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
Baylor
BYU
TCU
Tech
This seems most logical but I wonder how WVU fans feel about it? WVU and Cinci were in the same conf before but it may be deflating to their fans to be paired with 3 of the 4 new teams from G5 conferences.
(06-16-2022 03:12 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: See…there’s at least something we can agree on!
I shouldn’t be surprised at OU, although I’d definitely had more of a bond with them than I had Texas.
My hope is that whatever scheduling model they come up with, the remaining Big 8 members wind up on the same block. Something like this:
Cincy
Houston
UCF
West Virginia
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
Baylor
BYU
TCU
Tech
This seems most logical but I wonder how WVU fans feel about it? WVU and Cinci were in the same conf before but it may be deflating to their fans to be paired with 3 of the 4 new teams from G5 conferences.
To ease the travel burden a bit, I think they'd be okay with it. Any Mountaineers want to weigh in here?
(06-16-2022 03:12 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: See…there’s at least something we can agree on!
I shouldn’t be surprised at OU, although I’d definitely had more of a bond with them than I had Texas.
My hope is that whatever scheduling model they come up with, the remaining Big 8 members wind up on the same block. Something like this:
Cincy
Houston
UCF
West Virginia
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
Baylor
BYU
TCU
Tech
This seems most logical but I wonder how WVU fans feel about it? WVU and Cinci were in the same conf before but it may be deflating to their fans to be paired with 3 of the 4 new teams from G5 conferences.
Not sure there’s a reason to have pods with just 12 schools. Maybe have one rivalry protected/that would be played yearly and that’s it. If it turns out to be something like that it would be tough for wvu for sure. Also not sure that’s the best way to maximize Houston’s value either. The cougars playing their old rivals from the swc would be better for ratings, attendance etc
(06-16-2022 03:12 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: See…there’s at least something we can agree on!
I shouldn’t be surprised at OU, although I’d definitely had more of a bond with them than I had Texas.
My hope is that whatever scheduling model they come up with, the remaining Big 8 members wind up on the same block. Something like this:
Cincy
Houston
UCF
West Virginia
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
Baylor
BYU
TCU
Tech
I’m so old I was a ball boy for the Big 8 Holiday basketball tournament once. Not the post-season conference tournament, but the old one played BEFORE conference play started. I remember a big fella from ISU named Dean Uthoff. Nice guy and good player.
It’s a shame so much history gets thrown out for “progress” - or should I say $$$$? I liked the old Big 8, so I agree that it’d be good for us mostly to be together. At the same time, I’m looking forward to the newcomers joining - I think it’s gonna be fun.
(06-16-2022 03:12 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: See…there’s at least something we can agree on!
I shouldn’t be surprised at OU, although I’d definitely had more of a bond with them than I had Texas.
My hope is that whatever scheduling model they come up with, the remaining Big 8 members wind up on the same block. Something like this:
Cincy
Houston
UCF
West Virginia
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
Baylor
BYU
TCU
Tech
This seems most logical but I wonder how WVU fans feel about it? WVU and Cinci were in the same conf before but it may be deflating to their fans to be paired with 3 of the 4 new teams from G5 conferences.
Not sure there’s a reason to have pods with just 12 schools. Maybe have one rivalry protected/that would be played yearly and that’s it. If it turns out to be something like that it would be tough for wvu for sure. Also not sure that’s the best way to maximize Houston’s value either. The cougars playing their old rivals from the swc would be better for ratings, attendance etc
Jackson
Trade BYU for Houston. Then you will have it! Texas Tech, Houston, Baylor, TCU and you will have the SWC division!
I think BYU, Cincy, UCF, WVU should be together. ISU, Kansas, Kansas State, and OSU should round it out!
(06-16-2022 09:05 PM)cc22 Wrote: It'll be extremely dumb if the old Big 8 schools don't play each other twice every year in basketball.
At 12 teams, I hope we just play a 22 game league schedule and home/away every team.
It seems to be harder and harder to get good OOC basketball games that aren't part of the tournament or a conference challenge, would be better for RPIs and ticket sales to just play a few more league games.
(06-16-2022 03:12 PM)BewareThePhog Wrote: See…there’s at least something we can agree on!
I shouldn’t be surprised at OU, although I’d definitely had more of a bond with them than I had Texas.
My hope is that whatever scheduling model they come up with, the remaining Big 8 members wind up on the same block. Something like this:
Cincy
Houston
UCF
West Virginia
ISU
KU
KSU
OSU
Baylor
BYU
TCU
Tech
I’m so old I was a ball boy for the Big 8 Holiday basketball tournament once. Not the post-season conference tournament, but the old one played BEFORE conference play started. I remember a big fella from ISU named Dean Uthoff. Nice guy and good player.
It’s a shame so much history gets thrown out for “progress” - or should I say $$$$? I liked the old Big 8, so I agree that it’d be good for us mostly to be together. At the same time, I’m looking forward to the newcomers joining - I think it’s gonna be fun.
Dean Uthoff?? Yeah- you are old. That was before Coach Johnny Orr and the 3-point line.
(This post was last modified: 06-17-2022 10:33 AM by CYOWA.)
I think it will go back to a 6/6 split like it was when it was initially formed back in the mid 90's. With 3 cross over games a year, and then after 2 years, switch to the other 3. Keeping the biggest rivalries in mind as well as geography, I would assume it would probably be something like... South/West: Baylor, TCU, TTU, BYU, OSU, UH North/East: KU, KSU, ISU, WVU, CINCY, UCF
(06-18-2022 02:09 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote: I think it will go back to a 6/6 split like it was when it was initially formed back in the mid 90's. With 3 cross over games a year, and then after 2 years, switch to the other 3. Keeping the biggest rivalries in mind as well as geography, I would assume it would probably be something like... South/West: Baylor, TCU, TTU, BYU, OSU, UH North/East: KU, KSU, ISU, WVU, CINCY, UCF
Your divisions make sense, but the B12 plays 9 conference games, so 4 cross games each year.
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