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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
Surprised not more Patrick Loyoa talk here.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-22-2022 09:08 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: Surprised not more Patrick Loyoa talk here.
Why?
What's your "take" on it?
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06-22-2022 11:21 AM |
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-22-2022 09:08 AM)Bronco14 Wrote: Surprised not more Patrick Loyoa talk here.
Start a new thread. We'll have some Loyoa talk.
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06-22-2022 05:32 PM |
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-24-2022 12:06 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote: https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/...TUfYaps8nQ
I know these are cherry-picked interviews with the dumbest and most hardcore Trumpers, but it's still scary. We have so many uninformed voters.
One of the comments on Twitter: "Ask Trump supporters what evidence it would take to change their minds." About Jan. 6 or anything else really. I would love to know that answer myself, but I have a suspicion that it's not about facts or evidence anymore.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
"My vote to remain a no isn't based on any evidence. It's not based on any facts, it's only based on my gut feeling and my own intuition and that's all I need."
-- Couy Griffin, Otero NM County Commissioner on refusing to certify results of June 7th primary despite lack of evidence of voting fraud.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-24-2022 03:23 PM)MajorHoople Wrote: "My vote to remain a no isn't based on any evidence. It's not based on any facts, it's only based on my gut feeling and my own intuition and that's all I need."
-- Couy Griffin, Otero NM County Commissioner on refusing to certify results of June 7th primary despite lack of evidence of voting fraud.
That pretty much sums up the MAGA crowd.
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06-25-2022 08:36 AM |
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
Meanwhile in the white house....our Presidents note cards for his latest meeting. I like how they emphasize YOU so he doesn't get confused.
"YOU enter the Roosevelt Room and say hello to participants."
"YOU take YOUR seat. "
"Press enters."
"YOU give brief comments [...]" This note was partially blocked by Biden's finger.
"Press departs."
"YOU ask Liz Shuler, President, AFL-CIO, a question. Note: Liz is joining virtually."
"YOU thank participants."
"YOU depart."
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
What is your point GRBRONCO? Every minute of the President's day is highly regimented, carefully scheduled. For a reason. Our last president showed exactly WHY. So that they can't just spout off half-baked ideas 24/7 without consulting their experts, cabinet, lawyers, advisors. And the notes need to be clear and concise so that they can be read and understood at a glance.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-25-2022 09:52 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: What is your point GRBRONCO? Every minute of the President's day is highly regimented, carefully scheduled. For a reason. Our last president showed exactly WHY. So that they can't just spout off half-baked ideas 24/7 without consulting their experts, cabinet, lawyers, advisors. And the notes need to be clear and concise so that they can be read and understood at a glance.
It's clear Biden has some cognitive impairment going on, his whole presidency is scripted and he never takes questions. Probably why he sent his wife to Ukraine instead of going himself. Sad and scary at the same time. Dementia tends to accelerate rather quickly once you get close to 80. That is a little more concerning than the reality star turned President that happened to be a poor loser. Media will protect Biden at all costs though.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-25-2022 11:58 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote: (06-25-2022 09:52 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: What is your point GRBRONCO? Every minute of the President's day is highly regimented, carefully scheduled. For a reason. Our last president showed exactly WHY. So that they can't just spout off half-baked ideas 24/7 without consulting their experts, cabinet, lawyers, advisors. And the notes need to be clear and concise so that they can be read and understood at a glance.
It's clear Biden has some cognitive impairment going on, his whole presidency is scripted and he never takes questions. Probably why he sent his wife to Ukraine instead of going himself. Sad and scary at the same time. Dementia tends to accelerate rather quickly once you get close to 80. That is a little more concerning than the reality star turned President that happened to be a poor loser. Media will protect Biden at all costs though.
I'm not a big Biden fan, but it's disingenuous at best to say that a certain former president is "less concerning" than Biden. The guy was actively working against the interests of the citizens of the USA.
Well-intentioned-but-ineffectual elderly man > traitor-and-objectively-bad-person elderly man
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06-25-2022 12:11 PM |
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-25-2022 11:58 AM)GRBRONCO Wrote: (06-25-2022 09:52 AM)ColinApocalypse Wrote: What is your point GRBRONCO? Every minute of the President's day is highly regimented, carefully scheduled. For a reason. Our last president showed exactly WHY. So that they can't just spout off half-baked ideas 24/7 without consulting their experts, cabinet, lawyers, advisors. And the notes need to be clear and concise so that they can be read and understood at a glance.
It's clear Biden has some cognitive impairment going on, his whole presidency is scripted and he never takes questions. Probably why he sent his wife to Ukraine instead of going himself. Sad and scary at the same time. Dementia tends to accelerate rather quickly once you get close to 80. That is a little more concerning than the reality star turned President that happened to be a poor loser. Media will protect Biden at all costs though.
He takes questions all the time at press conferences. How have you determined he doesn’t?
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-25-2022 02:41 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote: How have you determined he doesn’t?
The GQP ecosphere has been pushing the line, projecting from when Dump was president, that Joe is senile and has lost it cognitively. Rule #1 with Dumpsters---everything is projection.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
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I'm not a big Biden fan, but it's disingenuous at best to say that a certain former president is "less concerning" than Biden. The guy was actively working against the interests of the citizens of the USA.
Well-intentioned-but-ineffectual elderly man > traitor-and-objectively-bad-person elderly man
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Agreed. And I'm always surprised when pro-Trump folks I know assume I like Biden just because I'm direct with them that Trump is, and has always been, a corrupt and narcissistic demagogue who doesn't really know how to do anything other than manipulate and rip off people. Plenty of us voted for Biden knowing he is old and losing his edge, simply because he has a minimum of desire to do the right thing and surround himself with competency. However, Biden as president is an example of how weak the Democratic party is, rather than anything to celebrate. Hopefully, he doesn't run in '24 and the Dems actually don't undermine their youthful base again. But, you know, boomers who can't let go of power is an American political problem that plagues both parties and is contributing to national decline.
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I agree. I'd be very happy if Biden decided not to run again in 2024. Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Grassley, and others from that generation need to retire ASAP.
With that said, if I have to choose between Joe Biden and an Enemy of the State again, I will choose Joe Biden.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-25-2022 07:32 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote: I agree. I'd be very happy if Biden decided not to run again in 2024. Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Grassley, and others from that generation need to retire ASAP.
With that said, if I have to choose between Joe Biden and an Enemy of the State again, I will choose Joe Biden.
Yep, agreed. I'd vote for Joe again in a heartbeat, but the Democratic Party could use someone with more vigor and zeal to energize the electorate. Maybe a Newsom or O'Rourke or someone.
2 years is a long time in the political world. But early odds figure it's either Trump again or, if he decides not to run, DeSantis. Regardless of who it is, it's fairly obvious the 2024 nominee will be pure MAGA to the core.
It's crazy to think that after all this - the damage to our nation's fabric and democratic process - Trump is somehow free and allowed to have a shot at another term in the WH.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
(06-25-2022 08:23 PM)Motown Bronco Wrote: (06-25-2022 07:32 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote: I agree. I'd be very happy if Biden decided not to run again in 2024. Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Grassley, and others from that generation need to retire ASAP.
With that said, if I have to choose between Joe Biden and an Enemy of the State again, I will choose Joe Biden.
Yep, agreed. I'd vote for Joe again in a heartbeat, but the Democratic Party could use someone with more vigor and zeal to energize the electorate. Maybe a Newsom or O'Rourke or someone.
2 years is a long time in the political world. But early odds figure it's either Trump again or, if he decides not to run, DeSantis. Regardless of who it is, it's fairly obvious the 2024 nominee will be pure MAGA to the core.
It's crazy to think that after all this - the damage to our nation's fabric and democratic process - Trump is somehow free and allowed to have a shot at another term in the WH.
I agree as well. I would prefer and older Biden in the White House versus someone not living in reality. Funny, my brother-in-law was making a joke last weekend about Biden falling off his bike and how dementia was setting in. I had to remind him how Reagan was in his second term. Of course, as a Trump loyalist, he brushed it off. However, I think there is some merit to it. While neither Biden nor Reagan (at the time) are not at the top of their game, I think they are both capable of running the country at the time.
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RE: Investigation of Jan. 6 Capitol Attack
I'm not a big Biden fan, but it's disingenuous at best to say that a certain former president is "less concerning" than Biden. The guy was actively working against the interests of the citizens of the USA.
Well-intentioned-but-ineffectual elderly man > traitor-and-objectively-bad-person elderly man
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Agreed. And I'm always surprised when pro-Trump folks I know assume I like Biden just because I'm direct with them that Trump is, and has always been, a corrupt and narcissistic demagogue who doesn't really know how to do anything other than manipulate and rip off people. Plenty of us voted for Biden knowing he is old and losing his edge, simply because he has a minimum of desire to do the right thing and surround himself with competency. However, Biden as president is an example of how weak the Democratic party is, rather than anything to celebrate. Hopefully, he doesn't run in '24 and the Dems actually don't undermine their youthful base again. But, you know, boomers who can't let go of power is an American political problem that plagues both parties and is contributing to national decline.
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Pelosi and McConnell are older than boomers.
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