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(05-05-2022 01:29 PM)Babes boy Wrote: http://eblade.toledoblade.com//.pf/shows...20223091/1
With the right voices, I think he's right. What can he do different than the former AD? O'Brien wasn't lazy. There's no outworking, there's only working differently. They need help from the culture of the whole school. They have to rise together.
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with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
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(05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
I'm thinking to hold pat on athletic investment and ask everything be directed into general operating or scholarship and research.
Athletic facilites as many have noted are some of the finest in this level. Concentrate on maintenance, retaining and attracting researchers and instructors in related fields. My view stated here is the same as the near 20 years I've been on message boards; concentrate on making athletics a means to research in health, prosthetics and orthotics. Create efficiencies through symbiotic relationships. The field of animal care is growing as fast as any. People are investing more into the health and repair of pets. I would grow that related area though now, that car is out of the bag. Other universities are creating mega hospitals addressing large and small animal care.
The university has to look for what's not being done and fill or create a niche demand. Research to product is what the survivalists are doing. It is what is attracting the best researchers. The UToledoes will lose trying to fulfill the role of Ohio St Mini.
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(05-05-2022 08:37 AM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-05-2022 07:08 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: (05-05-2022 06:35 AM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-04-2022 11:46 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote: (05-04-2022 06:19 AM)eastisbest Wrote: Thanks,
So.... the new AD believes in class divide, hmmm Upper class: twtterers. Lower class: everyone else.
Joking, partly. It's his ticket and it was a fun think to do but in general, I think it's important to be aware that not all have access. Not all should be expected to have access. Not all would want to have access as these social media portals are becoming political and social footballs.
JFC...
I knew you'd be the putz get all upset. It's so easy with you sad silver spooners. lol
Gee, that was hard to emulate. Typical for you. No brain, no intelligent discussion and you think someone respects you enough to be insulted or concerned with your mocking attitude.
Some of us actually understand that a University is not the fascist state you wish it was.
Some of us understand the importance of open discussion to try and get ahead of issues, instead of waiting for them to happen and hope to buy their way out.
In your 30s now? Not too late. Give it all up, start from scratch. See if you actually have the skills to make it on your own. It will do you good to know it was you, made that happen.
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(05-05-2022 03:40 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
I'm thinking to hold pat on athletic investment and ask everything be directed into general operating or scholarship and research.
Athletic facilites as many have noted are some of the finest in this level. Concentrate on maintenance, retaining and attracting researchers and instructors in related fields. My view stated here is the same as the near 20 years I've been on message boards; concentrate on making athletics a means to research in health, prosthetics and orthotics. Create efficiencies through symbiotic relationships. The field of animal care is growing as fast as any. People are investing more into the health and repair of pets. I would grow that related area though now, that car is out of the bag. Other universities are creating mega hospitals addressing large and small animal care.
The university has to look for what's not being done and fill or create a niche demand. Research to product is what the survivalists are doing. It is what is attracting the best researchers. The UToledoes will lose trying to fulfill the role of Ohio St Mini.
My comment was only referring to ability of new AD to pursue initiatives that have costs involved and the university operating budget constraints that will limit those ambitions.
and UT will never have a vet school-state is not going to approve new programs that duplicate existing programs, in fact the opposite is underway examining and potentially eliminating current duplicate programs
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(05-06-2022 10:45 AM)PaulJ Wrote: (05-05-2022 03:40 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
I'm thinking to hold pat on athletic investment and ask everything be directed into general operating or scholarship and research.
Athletic facilites as many have noted are some of the finest in this level. Concentrate on maintenance, retaining and attracting researchers and instructors in related fields. My view stated here is the same as the near 20 years I've been on message boards; concentrate on making athletics a means to research in health, prosthetics and orthotics. Create efficiencies through symbiotic relationships. The field of animal care is growing as fast as any. People are investing more into the health and repair of pets. I would grow that related area though now, that car is out of the bag. Other universities are creating mega hospitals addressing large and small animal care.
The university has to look for what's not being done and fill or create a niche demand. Research to product is what the survivalists are doing. It is what is attracting the best researchers. The UToledoes will lose trying to fulfill the role of Ohio St Mini.
My comment was only referring to ability of new AD to pursue initiatives that have costs involved and the university operating budget constraints that will limit those ambitions.
and UT will never have a vet school-state is not going to approve new programs that duplicate existing programs, in fact the opposite is underway examining and potentially eliminating current duplicate programs
Toledo wouldn't be the first primarily Engineering school to pursue medical related research without having a medical school. They will get on the animal bandwagon if they don't want to be dusted by that school down south.
It's not necessary to have a Veterinarian school. It's necessary to have an open mind and pursue where the money is. Weve had this discussion about doing things the old way and being stuck in what has been done. It's a deserved death or worse, name change.
They pursue grants in which they can apply present knowledge to new applications and build from there. Pick a small segment of study and get really good at it. Prosthetics for animals is going to be big.
Extending quality of life is a growing research to product opportunity. That's engineering. Find me old people without too much free cash and pets. Not going to be easy. Human and animal kinentics... straight up symbiot of athletics.
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(05-06-2022 02:50 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-06-2022 10:45 AM)PaulJ Wrote: (05-05-2022 03:40 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
I'm thinking to hold pat on athletic investment and ask everything be directed into general operating or scholarship and research.
Athletic facilites as many have noted are some of the finest in this level. Concentrate on maintenance, retaining and attracting researchers and instructors in related fields. My view stated here is the same as the near 20 years I've been on message boards; concentrate on making athletics a means to research in health, prosthetics and orthotics. Create efficiencies through symbiotic relationships. The field of animal care is growing as fast as any. People are investing more into the health and repair of pets. I would grow that related area though now, that car is out of the bag. Other universities are creating mega hospitals addressing large and small animal care.
The university has to look for what's not being done and fill or create a niche demand. Research to product is what the survivalists are doing. It is what is attracting the best researchers. The UToledoes will lose trying to fulfill the role of Ohio St Mini.
My comment was only referring to ability of new AD to pursue initiatives that have costs involved and the university operating budget constraints that will limit those ambitions.
and UT will never have a vet school-state is not going to approve new programs that duplicate existing programs, in fact the opposite is underway examining and potentially eliminating current duplicate programs
Toledo wouldn't be the first primarily Engineering school to pursue medical related research without having a medical school. They will get on the animal bandwagon if they don't want to be dusted by that school down south.
It's not necessary to have a Veterinarian school. It's necessary to have an open mind and pursue where the money is. Weve had this discussion about doing things the old way and being stuck in what has been done. It's a deserved death or worse, name change.
They pursue grants in which they can apply present knowledge to new applications and build from there. Pick a small segment of study and get really good at it. Prosthetics for animals is going to be big.
Extending quality of life is a growing research to product opportunity. That's engineering. Find me old people without too much free cash and pets. Not going to be easy. Human and animal kinentics... straight up symbiot of athletics.
Don't understand since UT does have a medical school. Doubt the state would authorize a second vet school. Some states have none. There are almost no states with more than one and no national movement to add more.
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(05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
When is the last time that UT didn't claim dire financial circumstances? If it's true now, then they shouldn't have been whining for the last 30 years, and maybe I could take them more seriously.
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(05-06-2022 03:42 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote: (05-06-2022 02:50 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-06-2022 10:45 AM)PaulJ Wrote: (05-05-2022 03:40 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
I'm thinking to hold pat on athletic investment and ask everything be directed into general operating or scholarship and research.
Athletic facilites as many have noted are some of the finest in this level. Concentrate on maintenance, retaining and attracting researchers and instructors in related fields. My view stated here is the same as the near 20 years I've been on message boards; concentrate on making athletics a means to research in health, prosthetics and orthotics. Create efficiencies through symbiotic relationships. The field of animal care is growing as fast as any. People are investing more into the health and repair of pets. I would grow that related area though now, that car is out of the bag. Other universities are creating mega hospitals addressing large and small animal care.
The university has to look for what's not being done and fill or create a niche demand. Research to product is what the survivalists are doing. It is what is attracting the best researchers. The UToledoes will lose trying to fulfill the role of Ohio St Mini.
My comment was only referring to ability of new AD to pursue initiatives that have costs involved and the university operating budget constraints that will limit those ambitions.
and UT will never have a vet school-state is not going to approve new programs that duplicate existing programs, in fact the opposite is underway examining and potentially eliminating current duplicate programs
Toledo wouldn't be the first primarily Engineering school to pursue medical related research without having a medical school. They will get on the animal bandwagon if they don't want to be dusted by that school down south.
It's not necessary to have a Veterinarian school. It's necessary to have an open mind and pursue where the money is. Weve had this discussion about doing things the old way and being stuck in what has been done. It's a deserved death or worse, name change.
They pursue grants in which they can apply present knowledge to new applications and build from there. Pick a small segment of study and get really good at it. Prosthetics for animals is going to be big.
Extending quality of life is a growing research to product opportunity. That's engineering. Find me old people without too much free cash and pets. Not going to be easy. Human and animal kinentics... straight up symbiot of athletics.
Don't understand since UT does have a medical school. Doubt the state would authorize a second vet school. Some states have none. There are almost no states with more than one and no national movement to add more.
Bringing analogy only. There is no requirement to have a vet school in order to do research related to animal health anymore than there is a requirement to have a medical school in order to do research related to human health. Bio Engineering for example, did not require we had a medical school.
That Toledo does have a medical school may make access to animal engineering more relevant. IDK
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(05-06-2022 03:53 PM)Lester Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
When is the last time that UT didn't claim dire financial circumstances? If it's true now, then they shouldn't have been whining for the last 30 years, and maybe I could take them more seriously.
enrollment is down 20% in last ten years-thats the fundamental problem, its that simple, vast majority of revenue is tied to enrollment, budget issues have been significant each year in last decade and will continue into near future
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(05-06-2022 02:50 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-06-2022 10:45 AM)PaulJ Wrote: (05-05-2022 03:40 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
I'm thinking to hold pat on athletic investment and ask everything be directed into general operating or scholarship and research.
Athletic facilites as many have noted are some of the finest in this level. Concentrate on maintenance, retaining and attracting researchers and instructors in related fields. My view stated here is the same as the near 20 years I've been on message boards; concentrate on making athletics a means to research in health, prosthetics and orthotics. Create efficiencies through symbiotic relationships. The field of animal care is growing as fast as any. People are investing more into the health and repair of pets. I would grow that related area though now, that car is out of the bag. Other universities are creating mega hospitals addressing large and small animal care.
The university has to look for what's not being done and fill or create a niche demand. Research to product is what the survivalists are doing. It is what is attracting the best researchers. The UToledoes will lose trying to fulfill the role of Ohio St Mini.
My comment was only referring to ability of new AD to pursue initiatives that have costs involved and the university operating budget constraints that will limit those ambitions.
and UT will never have a vet school-state is not going to approve new programs that duplicate existing programs, in fact the opposite is underway examining and potentially eliminating current duplicate programs
Toledo wouldn't be the first primarily Engineering school to pursue medical related research without having a medical school. They will get on the animal bandwagon if they don't want to be dusted by that school down south.
It's not necessary to have a Veterinarian school. It's necessary to have an open mind and pursue where the money is. Weve had this discussion about doing things the old way and being stuck in what has been done. It's a deserved death or worse, name change.
They pursue grants in which they can apply present knowledge to new applications and build from there. Pick a small segment of study and get really good at it. Prosthetics for animals is going to be big.
Extending quality of life is a growing research to product opportunity. That's engineering. Find me old people without too much free cash and pets. Not going to be easy. Human and animal kinentics... straight up symbiot of athletics.
prosthetics is minor area of current research focus and funding (and there are already many excellent programs in US) and I don't see how any of that helps raise millions to support athletics-which of course was the focus on my original post. UT has grown research in last few years, which is great, but UT operating budget is still driven by enrollment, address recruitment and retention of students is key to address UT finances. Research, especially in STEM is very expensive, brings in funding but also generates large amounts of costs. Its not easy to simple grow research revenues to make up different in open enrollment public state institution.
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(05-06-2022 05:22 PM)PaulJ Wrote: (05-06-2022 03:53 PM)Lester Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
When is the last time that UT didn't claim dire financial circumstances? If it's true now, then they shouldn't have been whining for the last 30 years, and maybe I could take them more seriously.
enrollment is down 20% in last ten years-thats the fundamental problem, its that simple, vast majority of revenue is tied to enrollment, budget issues have been significant each year in last decade and will continue into near future
Yeah, I'm not really disputing what you say about current circumstances, as I'm not in a position to know. But UT has been ringing alarm bells about its finances for way more than the last ten years.
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Research growth fuels more research h not academics. The way to grow athletics is for alumni to write checks.
Problem is most Toledo alumni are from Toledo area, where leaders look around for others or the taxpayers to solve everything. Example. Riverfront development by a park district
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(05-06-2022 05:27 PM)PaulJ Wrote: (05-06-2022 02:50 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-06-2022 10:45 AM)PaulJ Wrote: (05-05-2022 03:40 PM)eastisbest Wrote: (05-05-2022 02:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote: with declining enrollment and resulting budget reductions at UT, there are going to be some serious limitations on finances related to all aspects of UT operations including Athletics. Some of which could be made up by rise in fund raising directly into Athletics, but will take significant increase in those funds to rise above the reduced revenue at UT that then reduces the largest portion of revenue into the Athletics budget-transfer of funds from UT operating budget directly into Athletics. I am not saying he can't move in new and innovative ways in regards to Athletics, just that the finances will cause limitations to those opportunities.
I'm thinking to hold pat on athletic investment and ask everything be directed into general operating or scholarship and research.
Athletic facilites as many have noted are some of the finest in this level. Concentrate on maintenance, retaining and attracting researchers and instructors in related fields. My view stated here is the same as the near 20 years I've been on message boards; concentrate on making athletics a means to research in health, prosthetics and orthotics. Create efficiencies through symbiotic relationships. The field of animal care is growing as fast as any. People are investing more into the health and repair of pets. I would grow that related area though now, that car is out of the bag. Other universities are creating mega hospitals addressing large and small animal care.
The university has to look for what's not being done and fill or create a niche demand. Research to product is what the survivalists are doing. It is what is attracting the best researchers. The UToledoes will lose trying to fulfill the role of Ohio St Mini.
My comment was only referring to ability of new AD to pursue initiatives that have costs involved and the university operating budget constraints that will limit those ambitions.
and UT will never have a vet school-state is not going to approve new programs that duplicate existing programs, in fact the opposite is underway examining and potentially eliminating current duplicate programs
Toledo wouldn't be the first primarily Engineering school to pursue medical related research without having a medical school. They will get on the animal bandwagon if they don't want to be dusted by that school down south.
It's not necessary to have a Veterinarian school. It's necessary to have an open mind and pursue where the money is. Weve had this discussion about doing things the old way and being stuck in what has been done. It's a deserved death or worse, name change.
They pursue grants in which they can apply present knowledge to new applications and build from there. Pick a small segment of study and get really good at it. Prosthetics for animals is going to be big.
Extending quality of life is a growing research to product opportunity. That's engineering. Find me old people without too much free cash and pets. Not going to be easy. Human and animal kinentics... straight up symbiot of athletics.
prosthetics is minor area of current research focus and funding (and there are already many excellent programs in US) and 1) I don't see how any of that helps raise millions to support athletics-which of course was the focus on my original post. UT has grown research in last few years, which is great, but UT operating budget is still driven by enrollment, address recruitment and retention of students is key to address UT finances. 2) Research, especially in STEM is very expensive, brings in funding but also generates large amounts of costs. 3) Its not easy to simple grow research revenues to make up different in open enrollment public state institution.
1) I know
2) I know
3) I know, people looking for easy don't do it. Yet, it's done.
If some have their way of easy, UT will continue its path to over grown community college. If operating budget is being driven by enrollment, the University needs new people running the school. Enrollment should be nothing more than a passenger.
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The emphasis on research is also divisive among the faculty community at most universities. UT historically was a well rounded school with good liberal arts departments, philosophy, as well as engineering, business, sciences, music, etc... Some of these disciplines are not research oriented and the focus on research in recent years has come at the expense of once proud departments. It's not just a UT thing but if you talk to retiring faculty in non-research oriented fields at most any school they will lament the current situation. Of course, at a place like MIT or Ga Tech that has an overall emphasis on research heavy fields this is fine. At your typical state school it looks more like a gutted English department. I know Ohio as a state was going in the direction of making the major state universities more niche schools instead of broad based. Not sure if that's still happening. I do wonder if the changing approach to college-seeing it more as a means to earnings potential than an intellectual and social growth period for the transition to adulthood-has led to the decline in enrollment. Certainly, the increasing costs of college have contributed.
The new AD sounds like a good catch, btw.
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