https://twitter.com/fearthepegasus/statu...01352?s=21


https://nvgt.com/blog/power-5-conference...estimates/

I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

SEc/BIG numbers are on another planet..wow

Jackson

(03-15-2022 05:30 PM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  SEc/BIG numbers are on another planet..wow

Jackson

Yeah some schools definitely got lucky to be in the right place at the right time, and some schools like Tulane must be kicking themselves for leaving the SEC.

Rutgers got destroyed in BiG East football except during the Ray Rice era and steamrolled in basketball period, and they get the best deal out of any big East school? Right place in the right time is spot on for them lol

Jackson

(03-15-2022 05:05 PM)cc22 Wrote:  I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

(03-15-2022 03:09 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/fearthepegasus/statu...01352?s=21


https://nvgt.com/blog/power-5-conference...estimates/

If this group stays together and those #s are true. B12 will be in good shape to move forward. New teams will be established, and I could easily see B12 leapfrogging 1 or both of PAC and ACC.

(03-16-2022 05:48 AM)Jackson1011 Wrote:  Rutgers got destroyed in BiG East football except during the Ray Rice era and steamrolled in basketball period, and they get the best deal out of any big East school? Right place in the right time is spot on for them lol

Jackson

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Wisconsin are worth so much to the networks they are willing to pay the other 10 schools well to keep the B10 intact. If a Rutgers, Indiana or Illinois were paid on an individual basis they would not make very much on the market.

Staying on equal footing with the ACC and Pac12 is as good a news as Ive heard in some time. Thats a big win in my opinion.

(03-16-2022 08:00 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 05:05 PM)cc22 Wrote:  I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

My hope out of that, mainly, was no further expansion. I've come to terms with the current expansion, but I also don't want the league watered down with schools that have show no proof of supporting their football teams. As an Iowa State fan I've gotten used to full stadiums, haha, it it makes a difference

(03-16-2022 08:00 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 05:05 PM)cc22 Wrote:  I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

I hate Ohio State more than anything else in this world. Yes, I realize my priorities aren't straight. They are worth well north of $50 million a year though. I'm guessing at least 4x that, to boot.

DYK TV Networks give the total value of their annual contract to each said conferences...and the conf can do anything they like with that money (i.e. Big Ten could decide to give Ohio State 20% of all total $$$ the conf receives) but all conferences decided on their own to give each share equally. (Yes...SEC doesn't really have to give Vandy 1/14 share but they do....I don't think Vandy would live if they had to take 1/20 of the shared $$$).

Former UCF Head Coach George O'Leary use to say "sometimes almost 1/3 to 1/2 of a conf are all 'check cashers'...because they bring so little REAL value to a conf."

(03-17-2022 05:56 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:00 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 05:05 PM)cc22 Wrote:  I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

I hate Ohio State more than anything else in this world. Yes, I realize my priorities aren't straight. They are worth well north of $50 million a year though. I'm guessing at least 4x that, to boot.

Worth well north of $50mm doing what? They can't play themselves, and they can't play Michigan every time. On their own, with nobody to play they are worth nothing.

The big name blue bloods need the rest of us as much as the rest of us need them, even if they would like to believe otherwise.

(03-17-2022 01:43 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 05:56 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:00 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 05:05 PM)cc22 Wrote:  I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

I hate Ohio State more than anything else in this world. Yes, I realize my priorities aren't straight. They are worth well north of $50 million a year though. I'm guessing at least 4x that, to boot.

Worth well north of $50mm doing what? They can't play themselves, and they can't play Michigan every time. On their own, with nobody to play they are worth nothing.

The big name blue bloods need the rest of us as much as the rest of us need them, even if they would like to believe otherwise.

Regardless of whatever schedule they could thread together as an independent, they'd be worth well north of $50 million. View teams as if they were independents and that's basically what they are talking about.

Yes, if everyone boycotted playing Ohio State, they couldn't sell TV Rights. You are correct there, but that wouldn't happen.

(03-17-2022 02:01 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 01:43 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 05:56 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:00 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 05:05 PM)cc22 Wrote:  I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

I hate Ohio State more than anything else in this world. Yes, I realize my priorities aren't straight. They are worth well north of $50 million a year though. I'm guessing at least 4x that, to boot.

Worth well north of $50mm doing what? They can't play themselves, and they can't play Michigan every time. On their own, with nobody to play they are worth nothing.

The big name blue bloods need the rest of us as much as the rest of us need them, even if they would like to believe otherwise.

Regardless of whatever schedule they could thread together as an independent, they'd be worth well north of $50 million. View teams as if they were independents and that's basically what they are talking about.

Yes, if everyone boycotted playing Ohio State, they couldn't sell TV Rights. You are correct there, but that wouldn't happen.

But them going independent would happen?

(03-17-2022 02:40 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 02:01 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 01:43 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 05:56 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:00 AM)otown Wrote:  No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

I hate Ohio State more than anything else in this world. Yes, I realize my priorities aren't straight. They are worth well north of $50 million a year though. I'm guessing at least 4x that, to boot.

Worth well north of $50mm doing what? They can't play themselves, and they can't play Michigan every time. On their own, with nobody to play they are worth nothing.

The big name blue bloods need the rest of us as much as the rest of us need them, even if they would like to believe otherwise.

Regardless of whatever schedule they could thread together as an independent, they'd be worth well north of $50 million. View teams as if they were independents and that's basically what they are talking about.

Yes, if everyone boycotted playing Ohio State, they couldn't sell TV Rights. You are correct there, but that wouldn't happen.

But them going independent would happen?

Realistically, probably not. But it was to make a point that Ohio State by themselves are worth more than $50 million.

(03-17-2022 05:56 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-16-2022 08:00 AM)otown Wrote:  

(03-15-2022 05:05 PM)cc22 Wrote:  I think that'd be a win for the Big 12 (and means the Big 12 would have been solidly third in right deals had they not lost OU and Texas).

I'll still wait to believe it when I see it

Those numbers would also seem to preclude any more schools, as I wouldn't see any other schools out there worth $50 million. Which would also be nice.

No one school is worth $50 million. That goes for the majority of PAC, ACC, and Big 12 school. Heck, even quite a few B1G and SEC schools are not worth that. However, grouped together with schools like Bama and O$U, they suddenly are via a communist type of pay setup. It's only a matter of time until those top tier team realize that they are the reason for all this money and they dissolve conferences to form a top 20 league. Unless you are a team like Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Florida, USC, OU, O$U......you need not apply. That type of a league where everyone pulls their own weight may make $250 million each.

I hate Ohio State more than anything else in this world. Yes, I realize my priorities aren't straight. They are worth well north of $50 million a year though. I'm guessing at least 4x that, to boot.

Agree. OSU has an insane following. I remember a few years ago they traveled out to Berkeley to play Cal- there was more OSU fans that Bears fans. OSU has played in the Fiesta Bowl several times and that stadium is littered with Buckeye fans. Because of the diaspora of Ohioans all over the country over the last couple decades there are rabid OSU fans everywhere. I hate them too, but it is what it is.

(03-18-2022 05:06 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 02:40 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 02:01 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 01:43 PM)hiphopfroggy Wrote:  

(03-17-2022 05:56 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  I hate Ohio State more than anything else in this world. Yes, I realize my priorities aren't straight. They are worth well north of $50 million a year though. I'm guessing at least 4x that, to boot.

Worth well north of $50mm doing what? They can't play themselves, and they can't play Michigan every time. On their own, with nobody to play they are worth nothing.

The big name blue bloods need the rest of us as much as the rest of us need them, even if they would like to believe otherwise.

Regardless of whatever schedule they could thread together as an independent, they'd be worth well north of $50 million. View teams as if they were independents and that's basically what they are talking about.

Yes, if everyone boycotted playing Ohio State, they couldn't sell TV Rights. You are correct there, but that wouldn't happen.

But them going independent would happen?

Realistically, probably not. But it was to make a point that Ohio State by themselves are worth more than $50 million.

Right, and my point is that Ohio State, or UT or anyone else by themselves is worth exactly 0.

They like to pretend they are bigger than the sport itself but they are not, and they depend on opponents to play games that have value just like everyone else.

To that you may say yea but OSU vs Michigan is worth more than OSU vs Purdue which would of course be correct, But OSU cannot play Michigan 12 times a year. Nor would this idea of a super league be successful in continuing to increase the revenue stream. It may be somewhat successful initially thanks to the novelty but the bottom line is they would be shrinking the college football audience which would decline pretty drastically year after year.