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(02-07-2022 10:20 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 05:07 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 02:58 PM)odufansam Wrote:  The 5-25 year was a known rebuilding year. Expectations were low going into the season. No one expected it to go that poorly, but I thought the team would struggle to have a winning season.

The different is every year for Jeff Jones is a rebuilding year. Everyone writes it off as "just wait til next year" but next year its the same story. It's gotten old. I'm ready to buy tickets again the second we move on, but until then I refuse to invest another minute of my time.

We've been "waiting till next year", waiting for this season to come. This was when it was supposed to all come together. Granted, we lost our star point guard in Curry, and good players in Reece and X (though we showed X the door). But recruiting and retention is part of coaching too. Next year looks worse, not better. And thats why its time.

+1. And from what I observe, Jeff looks tired. It's time to say thank you and move on...NOW!

He’s not getting pushed out midseason, if that’s what you’re demanding.

None of us on this board, despite pretensions to the contrary, know what will happen with Jeffs future as our head coach. I'm simply saying that it is time for him to go. For a declining few on these boards it seems difficult for them to accept that the time for a change should have been recognized some time ago. NOW was used for emphasis and represented a desire for the change to be made.

I feel bad for Jeff Jones. By all accounts he’s a basketball coach through and through. Comes from a basketball family and was a great player on some really good teams. One season he took us to the second highest win total in ODU’s history.

Unfortunately he’s sick. As much as he may want to fight through, it doesn’t seem to be working based not just on this year but the last few. I can’t imagine the type of energy and time you need to devote to all it takes to have a successful program. Just reading from what some of you write here and who follow the team much closer then I do and listen to all the post game and pre game interviews, coach is worn down. I’m sure he’s bringing everything he can. But the results say it’s not working.

No way they will or should remove someone from their job in the middle of the season in a situation such as this. Just my opinion but it seems it would be best if they could offer Jeff Jones a new job in the athletic department of some kind and let him retire with dignity after the season. A new conference coming and a reboot at the same time would seem to be in order.

(02-08-2022 06:40 AM)mac Wrote:  I feel bad for Jeff Jones. By all accounts he’s a basketball coach through and through. Comes from a basketball family and was a great player on some really good teams. One season he took us to the second highest win total in ODU’s history.

Unfortunately he’s sick. As much as he may want to fight through, it doesn’t seem to be working based not just on this year but the last few. I can’t imagine the type of energy and time you need to devote to all it takes to have a successful program. Just reading from what some of you write here and who follow the team much closer then I do and listen to all the post game and pre game interviews, coach is worn down. I’m sure he’s bringing everything he can. But the results say it’s not working.

No way they will or should remove someone from their job in the middle of the season in a situation such as this. Just my opinion but it seems it would be best if they could offer Jeff Jones a new job in the athletic department of some kind and let him retire with dignity after the season. A new conference coming and a reboot at the same time would seem to be in order.

I agree! I really like coach Jones and wish we were doing better, but much like BT and is issues that affected his coaching and recruiting, I cannot help but think Jones is in the same boat but with his health rather than alcohol. I wish him the best and hope that ODU does the right thing and lets him retire on his own terms.

(02-08-2022 08:36 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 06:40 AM)mac Wrote:  I feel bad for Jeff Jones. By all accounts he’s a basketball coach through and through. Comes from a basketball family and was a great player on some really good teams. One season he took us to the second highest win total in ODU’s history.

Unfortunately he’s sick. As much as he may want to fight through, it doesn’t seem to be working based not just on this year but the last few. I can’t imagine the type of energy and time you need to devote to all it takes to have a successful program. Just reading from what some of you write here and who follow the team much closer then I do and listen to all the post game and pre game interviews, coach is worn down. I’m sure he’s bringing everything he can. But the results say it’s not working.

No way they will or should remove someone from their job in the middle of the season in a situation such as this. Just my opinion but it seems it would be best if they could offer Jeff Jones a new job in the athletic department of some kind and let him retire with dignity after the season. A new conference coming and a reboot at the same time would seem to be in order.

I agree! I really like coach Jones and wish we were doing better, but much like BT and is issues that affected his coaching and recruiting, I cannot help but think Jones is in the same boat but with his health rather than alcohol. I wish him the best and hope that ODU does the right thing and lets him retire on his own terms.

I agree with what you guys are saying. He has done some good things for our program and I do believe that his health is suffering. My best to him and my thanks for his efforts. Hope that he can overcome any obstacles.

(02-08-2022 06:40 AM)mac Wrote:  I feel bad for Jeff Jones. By all accounts he’s a basketball coach through and through. Comes from a basketball family and was a great player on some really good teams. One season he took us to the second highest win total in ODU’s history.

Unfortunately he’s sick. As much as he may want to fight through, it doesn’t seem to be working based not just on this year but the last few. I can’t imagine the type of energy and time you need to devote to all it takes to have a successful program. Just reading from what some of you write here and who follow the team much closer then I do and listen to all the post game and pre game interviews, coach is worn down. I’m sure he’s bringing everything he can. But the results say it’s not working.

No way they will or should remove someone from their job in the middle of the season in a situation such as this. Just my opinion but it seems it would be best if they could offer Jeff Jones a new job in the athletic department of some kind and let him retire with dignity after the season. A new conference coming and a reboot at the same time would seem to be in order.

Agree. Earliest he goes is end of year. He hasn't done anything to warrant a mid-season boot and this team isn't going anywhere so there is really no benefit to pulling the plug now. Nobody is on the market and Stith isn't going to get it done as "Interim". As far as I can tell as an outsider, Jeff runs a clean program and truly cares about his players. He has earned the opportunity to finish the season and resign.

(02-07-2022 07:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:40 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:34 AM)757ODU Wrote:  The good news is...

If Jones actually steps away, and we get the right guy, you can rebuild very quickly through the transfer portal.

Yep, and if we get the wrong guy, we're La Salle.

That has been my issue being too early to pull the trigger on wanting Jones out...that grass gets mud brown with the wrong hire.

We haven't had a coach who performed significantly worse than JJ in our history. I would argue this is pretty much ODU's floor. The risk of getting someone that makes it worse is pretty low. The risk of keeping JJ is that every year that passes further downgrades the program and makes it harder to get a good coach to replace him, and makes it harder for that new coach to recruit at a high level. There is very little risk in moving on from this situation.

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I don't disagree. Wins and losses are just part of the coach evaluation process.

(02-08-2022 08:36 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 06:40 AM)mac Wrote:  I feel bad for Jeff Jones. By all accounts he’s a basketball coach through and through. Comes from a basketball family and was a great player on some really good teams. One season he took us to the second highest win total in ODU’s history.

Unfortunately he’s sick. As much as he may want to fight through, it doesn’t seem to be working based not just on this year but the last few. I can’t imagine the type of energy and time you need to devote to all it takes to have a successful program. Just reading from what some of you write here and who follow the team much closer then I do and listen to all the post game and pre game interviews, coach is worn down. I’m sure he’s bringing everything he can. But the results say it’s not working.

No way they will or should remove someone from their job in the middle of the season in a situation such as this. Just my opinion but it seems it would be best if they could offer Jeff Jones a new job in the athletic department of some kind and let him retire with dignity after the season. A new conference coming and a reboot at the same time would seem to be in order.

I agree! I really like coach Jones and wish we were doing better, but much like BT and is issues that affected his coaching and recruiting, I cannot help but think Jones is in the same boat but with his health rather than alcohol. I wish him the best and hope that ODU does the right thing and lets him retire on his own terms.

I think you two are spot on.

(02-07-2022 07:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:40 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:34 AM)757ODU Wrote:  The good news is...

If Jones actually steps away, and we get the right guy, you can rebuild very quickly through the transfer portal.

Yep, and if we get the wrong guy, we're La Salle.

That has been my issue being too early to pull the trigger on wanting Jones out...that grass gets mud brown with the wrong hire.

We haven't had a coach who performed significantly worse than JJ in our history. I would argue this is pretty much ODU's floor. The risk of getting someone that makes it worse is pretty low. The risk of keeping JJ is that every year that passes further downgrades the program and makes it harder to get a good coach to replace him, and makes it harder for that new coach to recruit at a high level. There is very little risk in moving on from this situation.

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Sure we have. Jeff Capel is signifantly below any coach we have ever had. Not that it changes your point, but I don't think people remember how bad it was under Capel. The last 3 years under Jones were the norm for Capel.

(02-07-2022 10:20 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 05:07 PM)monarx Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 02:58 PM)odufansam Wrote:  The 5-25 year was a known rebuilding year. Expectations were low going into the season. No one expected it to go that poorly, but I thought the team would struggle to have a winning season.

The different is every year for Jeff Jones is a rebuilding year. Everyone writes it off as "just wait til next year" but next year its the same story. It's gotten old. I'm ready to buy tickets again the second we move on, but until then I refuse to invest another minute of my time.

We've been "waiting till next year", waiting for this season to come. This was when it was supposed to all come together. Granted, we lost our star point guard in Curry, and good players in Reece and X (though we showed X the door). But recruiting and retention is part of coaching too. Next year looks worse, not better. And thats why its time.

+1. And from what I observe, Jeff looks tired. It's time to say thank you and move on...NOW!

Cancer is not very easy on the body.

I don't make the Jason Wade excues but Wade turned into a heck of a player. He was by far the best player on the team as a true soph and seemingly was getting better. The lose of Wade is felt moreso than Curry and Reece; both would have helped this team and left for different reasons. As a reference point, Wade was averageing 23 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists, and 6 steals per 100 possessions. He would have been a true senior and team captain this year. We werent able to properly replace Wade and to a lesser extent Reece.

(02-08-2022 10:27 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 07:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:40 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:34 AM)757ODU Wrote:  The good news is...

If Jones actually steps away, and we get the right guy, you can rebuild very quickly through the transfer portal.

Yep, and if we get the wrong guy, we're La Salle.

That has been my issue being too early to pull the trigger on wanting Jones out...that grass gets mud brown with the wrong hire.

We haven't had a coach who performed significantly worse than JJ in our history. I would argue this is pretty much ODU's floor. The risk of getting someone that makes it worse is pretty low. The risk of keeping JJ is that every year that passes further downgrades the program and makes it harder to get a good coach to replace him, and makes it harder for that new coach to recruit at a high level. There is very little risk in moving on from this situation.

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Sure we have. Jeff Capel is signifantly below any coach we have ever had. Not that it changes your point, but I don't think people remember how bad it was under Capel. The last 3 years under Jones were the norm for Capel.

...and Capel was fired.

JJ'S NIT year and his NCAA year were great and showed his greatness but something has happened regrettably to affect his performance. I love the man but he needs to go on to his next chapter of his life...

(02-08-2022 01:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 10:27 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 07:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:40 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  Yep, and if we get the wrong guy, we're La Salle.

That has been my issue being too early to pull the trigger on wanting Jones out...that grass gets mud brown with the wrong hire.

We haven't had a coach who performed significantly worse than JJ in our history. I would argue this is pretty much ODU's floor. The risk of getting someone that makes it worse is pretty low. The risk of keeping JJ is that every year that passes further downgrades the program and makes it harder to get a good coach to replace him, and makes it harder for that new coach to recruit at a high level. There is very little risk in moving on from this situation.

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Sure we have. Jeff Capel is signifantly below any coach we have ever had. Not that it changes your point, but I don't think people remember how bad it was under Capel. The last 3 years under Jones were the norm for Capel.

...and Capel was fired.

FWIW, Capel "resigned"

(02-08-2022 09:11 AM)monarx Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 08:36 AM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 06:40 AM)mac Wrote:  I feel bad for Jeff Jones. By all accounts he’s a basketball coach through and through. Comes from a basketball family and was a great player on some really good teams. One season he took us to the second highest win total in ODU’s history.

Unfortunately he’s sick. As much as he may want to fight through, it doesn’t seem to be working based not just on this year but the last few. I can’t imagine the type of energy and time you need to devote to all it takes to have a successful program. Just reading from what some of you write here and who follow the team much closer then I do and listen to all the post game and pre game interviews, coach is worn down. I’m sure he’s bringing everything he can. But the results say it’s not working.

No way they will or should remove someone from their job in the middle of the season in a situation such as this. Just my opinion but it seems it would be best if they could offer Jeff Jones a new job in the athletic department of some kind and let him retire with dignity after the season. A new conference coming and a reboot at the same time would seem to be in order.

I agree! I really like coach Jones and wish we were doing better, but much like BT and is issues that affected his coaching and recruiting, I cannot help but think Jones is in the same boat but with his health rather than alcohol. I wish him the best and hope that ODU does the right thing and lets him retire on his own terms.

I think you two are spot on.

I agree. Well said. Obviously, a fresh start is needed. The results are not there for a variety of reasons, but I think most of us on this board are not standing up and booing JJ when he walks out the door.

(02-08-2022 01:24 PM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 01:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-08-2022 10:27 AM)Stat Geek Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 07:52 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(02-07-2022 09:50 AM)757ODU Wrote:  That has been my issue being too early to pull the trigger on wanting Jones out...that grass gets mud brown with the wrong hire.

We haven't had a coach who performed significantly worse than JJ in our history. I would argue this is pretty much ODU's floor. The risk of getting someone that makes it worse is pretty low. The risk of keeping JJ is that every year that passes further downgrades the program and makes it harder to get a good coach to replace him, and makes it harder for that new coach to recruit at a high level. There is very little risk in moving on from this situation.

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Sure we have. Jeff Capel is signifantly below any coach we have ever had. Not that it changes your point, but I don't think people remember how bad it was under Capel. The last 3 years under Jones were the norm for Capel.

...and Capel was fired.

FWIW, Capel "resigned"

Hahaha