(12-18-2021 12:06 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote: (12-18-2021 11:52 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (12-18-2021 11:47 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (12-18-2021 11:44 AM)UofMemphis Wrote: (12-18-2021 11:38 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: These are 19-20 year old
which is why their safety must come first. basketball is just a game, this is a worldwide pandemic. it's called perspective and many here lack that.
Says a lunatic with zero perspective totally ignoring the science.
There is a better chance of one of these kids dying in a car wreck or gang violence than covid at this point.
cars are dangerous so we have seat belts, speed limits, and require insurance...COVID is dangerous that's why we have vaccines, boosters, and masks.
I don't think you would recognize science if it walked up and introduced itself...
All I know is...people get the vaccine...and the booster...and they're still getting the virus.
Some have died from it even after getting the boosters.
So if the vaxx and boosters aren't going to help...why force it on everyone?
I normally don't get involved in COVID discussions, but I've heard the last question before and it's caused by a numerical misunderstanding. Yes, the vaccines are not 100% perfect. But they do GREATLY reduce both the chance of catching the virus, and of a severe outcome (hospitalization, intubation, death) if you do catch it. However, it's certainly true that SOME vaccinated people get the virus and even have severe outcomes from it. This can create an impression that the vaccines don't work. But what's actually happening is the effect of small percentages of large numbers. Here's an example (number made up off the top of my head to illustrate the principle):
Suppose there are 10,000 people of whom 80% are vaccinated (8,000). Let's assume the odds of a severe outcome are 5% for unvaccinated people and 1% for vaccinated. They're probably actually lower for both but this creates nice round numbers and doesn't affect the principle.
There will be severe outcomes in 100 unvaccinated (5% of 2,000) and 80 vaccinated (1% of 8,000). So at first glance you might say, oh, 80 out of 180 with severe outcomes were vaccinated, so the vaccines don't really help much! But this is misleading because there was a much higher population of vaccinated to start with -- and a much smaller percentage of them had bad outcomes.
I've also heard people say, oh a 1% chance of something isn't much, I'll take my chances. But again it's important to remember that small percentages of large numbers are still significant! Would you go to a game at Liberty Bowl stadium if it was announced that afterward, 1% of the crowd would die? In a full stadium that would be 600 people.
Signed,
A recovering statistician