(10-27-2021 04:38 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 09:21 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 09:03 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:28 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:07 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  Unless they are in the PAC 12/ACC/B1G. Just a thought.

Well assuming you mean a team(s) from those conferences told the B12 they weren't ready to join the B12... I guess, logically that's still a possibility, but... practically? I have my doubts.

If that's what you meant, what specific teams are you thinking might consider such a move?

Or did I totally mis-interpret your post?

I think you got it. The Arizona teams and Nebraska come to mind.

If it were my call, that's where I would be looking. I don't think any of the other teams add much value, in my opinion.

You might say they make more money wherever else. Yeah, but at what cost? That would be my selling point.

Hmm... ya, I don't really have a feel for the sentiment of fans of those teams... but you mention Nebraska... that sparked a thought. Although leaving the B1G would seem like a backwards move, maybe they want to be competitive again and would like to hit the fertile Texas recruiting grounds? Just WAG'ing... but you never hear exciting about Nebraska in football anymore so...

(10-26-2021 10:57 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 09:03 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:28 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 07:07 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  Unless they are in the PAC 12/ACC/B1G. Just a thought.

Well assuming you mean a team(s) from those conferences told the B12 they weren't ready to join the B12... I guess, logically that's still a possibility, but... practically? I have my doubts.

If that's what you meant, what specific teams are you thinking might consider such a move?

Or did I totally mis-interpret your post?

I think you got it. The Arizona teams and Nebraska come to mind.

If it were my call, that's where I would be looking. I don't think any of the other teams add much value, in my opinion.

You might say they make more money wherever else. Yeah, but at what cost? That would be my selling point.

Utah and Colorado would make sense too, although not sure if they’d be interested at all.

All Long Shots, for sure. That's where I would be looking though. I just don't think there is anything left to raid.

I could be talked into Memphis. I just hate the fact that they don't have any On-Campus facilities. Maybe that's a bigger deal to me than it should be. They do everything else right though. The academics are improving too, from what I read. Maybe I'm just jaded by my trip there. The Liberty bowl was just so far away from everything.

Boise, is a hard no for me. They win football games, and that's pretty much it. I know that's huge, but what if that stops? What do you have? Let's say the move doesn't work out well? We've seen it before (Nebraska/ECU). It'd be a small/bad academic school in the middle of Idaho. I thought they'd be great for the ACC, where Football wins were everything. B12 though, I just don't think it's a fit. Honestly, I would rather have App State. As you are rolling your eyes, really compare the two. App wins games too, and is in a much better recruiting location.

SMU is too small, in my opinion. I just don't get the lure. They'd be like the 20th P5 school in Texas. Yippy. I know Texas is one of the top, if not the top, football recruiting beds in America. There are still only so many players though.

Who else would you even remotely consider?

San Diego St. University. Both football and BB are solid. 27th best TV market in America, you won't find a better available market. Memphis? A bit better than Fresno to be honest. SDSU has basketball facilities (both in an arena and practice facility, the latter as good as you will find on the West Coast).We also are one of the top 5 BB programs West of the Rockies. Football, we have done well over the last decade. We'll have a new 35K stadium in place for the 2022 season, part of a $3.5B campus expansion, that is already showing a plus in recruiting. Given you brought in BYU then we've a good travel partner going back to 1980. Big Mormon population in San Diego as well. To be honest, with the add of BYU I think you need to add at least a couple of western schools to help with travel.

As a destination, tell me where you'd rather go for a weekend.

Does no one think Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona's would come over? The pac12 has its issues, I think the B12 could realistically make a play there. Would give Utah a conference rival with BYU. CU/TTU also. The B12 would be a strong 3rd best football conference at that point.


E. Or Memphis, Louisville, Utah, Colorado

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(10-28-2021 08:55 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 04:38 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 09:21 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 09:03 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:28 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Well assuming you mean a team(s) from those conferences told the B12 they weren't ready to join the B12... I guess, logically that's still a possibility, but... practically? I have my doubts.

If that's what you meant, what specific teams are you thinking might consider such a move?

Or did I totally mis-interpret your post?

I think you got it. The Arizona teams and Nebraska come to mind.

If it were my call, that's where I would be looking. I don't think any of the other teams add much value, in my opinion.

You might say they make more money wherever else. Yeah, but at what cost? That would be my selling point.

Hmm... ya, I don't really have a feel for the sentiment of fans of those teams... but you mention Nebraska... that sparked a thought. Although leaving the B1G would seem like a backwards move, maybe they want to be competitive again and would like to hit the fertile Texas recruiting grounds? Just WAG'ing... but you never hear exciting about Nebraska in football anymore so...

(10-26-2021 10:57 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 09:03 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(10-25-2021 09:28 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Well assuming you mean a team(s) from those conferences told the B12 they weren't ready to join the B12... I guess, logically that's still a possibility, but... practically? I have my doubts.

If that's what you meant, what specific teams are you thinking might consider such a move?

Or did I totally mis-interpret your post?

I think you got it. The Arizona teams and Nebraska come to mind.

If it were my call, that's where I would be looking. I don't think any of the other teams add much value, in my opinion.

You might say they make more money wherever else. Yeah, but at what cost? That would be my selling point.

Utah and Colorado would make sense too, although not sure if they’d be interested at all.

All Long Shots, for sure. That's where I would be looking though. I just don't think there is anything left to raid.

I could be talked into Memphis. I just hate the fact that they don't have any On-Campus facilities. Maybe that's a bigger deal to me than it should be. They do everything else right though. The academics are improving too, from what I read. Maybe I'm just jaded by my trip there. The Liberty bowl was just so far away from everything.

Boise, is a hard no for me. They win football games, and that's pretty much it. I know that's huge, but what if that stops? What do you have? Let's say the move doesn't work out well? We've seen it before (Nebraska/ECU). It'd be a small/bad academic school in the middle of Idaho. I thought they'd be great for the ACC, where Football wins were everything. B12 though, I just don't think it's a fit. Honestly, I would rather have App State. As you are rolling your eyes, really compare the two. App wins games too, and is in a much better recruiting location.

SMU is too small, in my opinion. I just don't get the lure. They'd be like the 20th P5 school in Texas. Yippy. I know Texas is one of the top, if not the top, football recruiting beds in America. There are still only so many players though.

Who else would you even remotely consider?

San Diego St. University. Both football and BB are solid. 27th best TV market in America, you won't find a better available market. Memphis? A bit better than Fresno to be honest. SDSU has basketball facilities (both in an arena and practice facility, the latter as good as you will find on the West Coast).We also are one of the top 5 BB programs West of the Rockies. Football, we have done well over the last decade. We'll have a new 35K stadium in place for the 2022 season, part of a $3.5B campus expansion, that is already showing a plus in recruiting. Given you brought in BYU then we've a good travel partner going back to 1980. Big Mormon population in San Diego as well. To be honest, with the add of BYU I think you need to add at least a couple of western schools to help with travel.

As a destination, tell me where you'd rather go for a weekend.

i hope that none of the MWC teams make the B12, or any P5 league. screw them. as a UC fan, i saw enough of their antics re: the AAC. sdsu may be "convenient" for byu, but they're not for anyone else. The B12 doesn't need to add any small time, prima donna schools at this point.

(10-29-2021 01:44 AM)7thyear Wrote:  Does no one think Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona's would come over? The pac12 has its issues, I think the B12 could realistically make a play there. Would give Utah a conference rival with BYU. CU/TTU also. The B12 would be a strong 3rd best football conference at that point.


E. Or Memphis, Louisville, Utah, Colorado

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Colorado is not going to join a Texas "based" Conference again....as they love their access to California for recruiting (same for both AZ schools too). This goes for Utah too.

Only way it would happen is if the Pac-12 disbanded....and that will not happen.

(10-29-2021 08:59 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 01:44 AM)7thyear Wrote:  Does no one think Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona's would come over? The pac12 has its issues, I think the B12 could realistically make a play there. Would give Utah a conference rival with BYU. CU/TTU also. The B12 would be a strong 3rd best football conference at that point.


E. Or Memphis, Louisville, Utah, Colorado

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Colorado is not going to join a Texas "based" Conference again....as they love their access to California for recruiting (same for both AZ schools too). This goes for Utah too.

Only way it would happen is if the Pac-12 disbanded....and that will not happen.

Agree, it would be a shock if they came. AZ schools might if USC and another top P12 left, and I doubt it even then.

(10-29-2021 09:14 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 08:59 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 01:44 AM)7thyear Wrote:  Does no one think Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona's would come over? The pac12 has its issues, I think the B12 could realistically make a play there. Would give Utah a conference rival with BYU. CU/TTU also. The B12 would be a strong 3rd best football conference at that point.


E. Or Memphis, Louisville, Utah, Colorado

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Colorado is not going to join a Texas "based" Conference again....as they love their access to California for recruiting (same for both AZ schools too). This goes for Utah too.

Only way it would happen is if the Pac-12 disbanded....and that will not happen.

Agree, it would be a shock if they came. AZ schools might if USC and another top P12 left, and I doubt it even then.

Some report their might be a handshake agreement between the PAC & B12 to not go after each other. IF that is the case it also might be expected of the B12 to stay out of California. The B12 has more to risk if it would make a couple of Texas schools vulnerable to the PAC. If the contract is close maybe even up to 10M difference, I don't think it makes sense for Texas teams to leave due to that many close teams for travel and selling tickets at their home stadiums. Hopefully, that will be the case.

(10-29-2021 11:36 AM)Win5002 Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 09:14 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 08:59 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-29-2021 01:44 AM)7thyear Wrote:  Does no one think Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona's would come over? The pac12 has its issues, I think the B12 could realistically make a play there. Would give Utah a conference rival with BYU. CU/TTU also. The B12 would be a strong 3rd best football conference at that point.


E. Or Memphis, Louisville, Utah, Colorado

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Colorado is not going to join a Texas "based" Conference again....as they love their access to California for recruiting (same for both AZ schools too). This goes for Utah too.

Only way it would happen is if the Pac-12 disbanded....and that will not happen.

Agree, it would be a shock if they came. AZ schools might if USC and another top P12 left, and I doubt it even then.

Some report their might be a handshake agreement between the PAC & B12 to not go after each other. IF that is the case it also might be expected of the B12 to stay out of California. The B12 has more to risk if it would make a couple of Texas schools vulnerable to the PAC. If the contract is close maybe even up to 10M difference, I don't think it makes sense for Texas teams to leave due to that many close teams for travel and selling tickets at their home stadiums. Hopefully, that will be the case.

yup. and since the pac didn't raid the big 12 this year, the big 12 will reciprocate in kind next round

We don't need anymore expansion

(10-24-2021 07:17 PM)ICThawk Wrote:  

(10-24-2021 11:42 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  No more expansion is needed.

Agree wholeheartedly.

I say stand pat for several years and see how things work out financially. Of course things can change sooner depending on what other P5 conferences do.