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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-21-2021 02:22 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 12:18 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 10:57 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 10:41 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  
(10-19-2021 09:31 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Now I want to hear that the exit fees will be split by the remaining 8. At a Minimum, we should charge the three leaving $15 million. That would give us $5 million a piece (conference normally will take 1 share also).

First off, I acknowledge that you said "Minimum," but UConn had to pay $17 million.
UCONN!!! The 3 leaving should have to pony up at least 20.

uconn left in 1 year... the 3 teams leaving are leaving in 2 years.. they are only cutting 27month exit period by 3 months

why would it be 20mil?

I thought the $10m exit period ends June 2024? There is talk of teams playing in their new conferences for the 2023 season.

the exit period is 27months for 10mil....you are technically correct, if any part of that 27 months touches any part of a new academic year you are supposed to stay that full year.. so to not increase the 10mil fee we'd have to stay till june 2024

any additional exit fees with be to cut the 3 months off the exit fee to not touch the 2024 cycle

all3 leaving teams plan to leave at the nd of the 2023 cycle

oh ok. I was thinking they wanted to play the 2023 season in their new homes
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
You are right my calendar math is wrong

They want to leave after next season is done .. in 2 years..

They want to be in the big at the start of 23..which is 24 months
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-21-2021 02:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 07:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 06:41 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 05:17 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 05:08 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I like how everyone on these board thinks the Boise State sweetheart deal is awful because it makes all the MW members 2nd class citizens...

Now the AAC has given a sweetheart deal to all the incumbent members and made the new members 2nd class citizens.

Not that it matter much. usf had a bunch of extra money from the Big East Exit fees and they still don't have an on-campus stadium or successful program.

LOL. Had to drag us in there somehow. Always on your mind. By the way if you think you will get same money as the L8 when you arrive in B12 I got some swampland for sale.
we're use to it. we didn't get the same money as the big east leftovers. it's just the way things work.

It’s the way it has always worked out but your fan that I was replying to wanted to act like it was an AAC thing.

We got equal tv revenue when we joined the league. We didn't get the exit fees.

There is a huge difference. I don't recall any other realignment where the announcement was accompanied with unequal tv payout for full members of a conference.

Provide links if you have them. I just don't remember that and can't find any articles to support unequal tv revenue.
It is my understanding that when WSU joined the AAC we paid a $2.5 million entrance fee and got 0 TV money until the new TV contract kicked in.
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-21-2021 03:19 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 02:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 07:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 06:41 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 05:17 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  LOL. Had to drag us in there somehow. Always on your mind. By the way if you think you will get same money as the L8 when you arrive in B12 I got some swampland for sale.
we're use to it. we didn't get the same money as the big east leftovers. it's just the way things work.

It’s the way it has always worked out but your fan that I was replying to wanted to act like it was an AAC thing.

We got equal tv revenue when we joined the league. We didn't get the exit fees.

There is a huge difference. I don't recall any other realignment where the announcement was accompanied with unequal tv payout for full members of a conference.

Provide links if you have them. I just don't remember that and can't find any articles to support unequal tv revenue.
It is my understanding that when WSU joined the AAC we paid an entrance fee and got 0 TV money until the new TV contract kicked in.

I think normally conferences take your entry money from the tv fees. I believe WSU did get tv fees just maybe a reduced amount. What they didn’t get was Exit money from those that had left.
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-21-2021 02:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 07:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 06:41 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 05:17 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 05:08 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I like how everyone on these board thinks the Boise State sweetheart deal is awful because it makes all the MW members 2nd class citizens...

Now the AAC has given a sweetheart deal to all the incumbent members and made the new members 2nd class citizens.

Not that it matter much. usf had a bunch of extra money from the Big East Exit fees and they still don't have an on-campus stadium or successful program.

LOL. Had to drag us in there somehow. Always on your mind. By the way if you think you will get same money as the L8 when you arrive in B12 I got some swampland for sale.
we're use to it. we didn't get the same money as the big east leftovers. it's just the way things work.

It’s the way it has always worked out but your fan that I was replying to wanted to act like it was an AAC thing.

We got equal tv revenue when we joined the league. We didn't get the exit fees.

There is a huge difference. I don't recall any other realignment where the announcement was accompanied with unequal tv payout for full members of a conference.

Provide links if you have them. I just don't remember that and can't find any articles to support unequal tv revenue.

Rutgers and Maryland got lower media revenues. You can look it up.
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-21-2021 03:27 PM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 02:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 07:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 06:41 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 05:17 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  LOL. Had to drag us in there somehow. Always on your mind. By the way if you think you will get same money as the L8 when you arrive in B12 I got some swampland for sale.
we're use to it. we didn't get the same money as the big east leftovers. it's just the way things work.

It’s the way it has always worked out but your fan that I was replying to wanted to act like it was an AAC thing.

We got equal tv revenue when we joined the league. We didn't get the exit fees.

There is a huge difference. I don't recall any other realignment where the announcement was accompanied with unequal tv payout for full members of a conference.

Provide links if you have them. I just don't remember that and can't find any articles to support unequal tv revenue.

Rutgers and Maryland got lower media revenues. You can look it up.

TCU got a less than full share of revenue that slowly stepped up when they joined the Big12. Nebraska got a graduated revenue share in the Big10 when they joined. I suspect W Virginia also got a graduated payout. More interesting---not only did Rutgers and Maryland not get a full share when they went to the Big10---they didnt even get the same deal. Rutgers deal was not as lucrative as Marylands deal---despite joining at the same time. I dont think Wichita got ANYTHING from media when they first joined the AAC. A reduced revenue share for new members is not an uncommon practice.
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-21-2021 03:22 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 03:19 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 02:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 07:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 06:41 PM)Meatwad Wrote:  we're use to it. we didn't get the same money as the big east leftovers. it's just the way things work.

It’s the way it has always worked out but your fan that I was replying to wanted to act like it was an AAC thing.

We got equal tv revenue when we joined the league. We didn't get the exit fees.

There is a huge difference. I don't recall any other realignment where the announcement was accompanied with unequal tv payout for full members of a conference.

Provide links if you have them. I just don't remember that and can't find any articles to support unequal tv revenue.
It is my understanding that when WSU joined the AAC we paid an entrance fee and got 0 TV money until the new TV contract kicked in.

I think normally conferences take your entry money from the tv fees. I believe WSU did get tv fees just maybe a reduced amount. What they didn’t get was Exit money from those that had left.
No WSU did not. We got 0 until the new contract kicked in. Which is a substantial increase from the around $370K we got annually from media rights while a member of the Missouri Valley.
https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wi...05334.html
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-21-2021 03:46 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 03:22 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 03:19 PM)shocker3 Wrote:  
(10-21-2021 02:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  
(10-20-2021 07:07 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  It’s the way it has always worked out but your fan that I was replying to wanted to act like it was an AAC thing.

We got equal tv revenue when we joined the league. We didn't get the exit fees.

There is a huge difference. I don't recall any other realignment where the announcement was accompanied with unequal tv payout for full members of a conference.

Provide links if you have them. I just don't remember that and can't find any articles to support unequal tv revenue.
It is my understanding that when WSU joined the AAC we paid an entrance fee and got 0 TV money until the new TV contract kicked in.

I think normally conferences take your entry money from the tv fees. I believe WSU did get tv fees just maybe a reduced amount. What they didn’t get was Exit money from those that had left.
No WSU did not. We got 0 until the new contract kicked in. Which is a substantial increase from the around $370K we got annually from media rights while a member of the Missouri Valley.
https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wi...05334.html

Thanks I stand corrected, didn’t know that. Glad you guys are here.
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
Sorry it this was discussed and buried in the thread already, but does anyone know if it simply means the payout stays the same for the incumbent teams with what they are making now and forgoing any escalators as Tim goes on how the original contract was written....... or do those escalators continue. It's a difference over millions over the term of the contract.
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RE: According to Thamel, payouts staying at $7m for the remaining schools
(10-22-2021 06:10 AM)otown Wrote:  Sorry it this was discussed and buried in the thread already, but does anyone know if it simply means the payout stays the same for the incumbent teams with what they are making now and forgoing any escalators as Tim goes on how the original contract was written....... or do those escalators continue. It's a difference over millions over the term of the contract.

I expect all will remain as it is in current contract, escalators included. My guess is at the end of the day ESPN will pay the same $$ for 14 as they did for 11. with new schools receiving smaller shares until the next deal. I think schools were getting 5ish right now, so new schools could get around 2.5, which would be in line with the 2 mil some media person said earlier.
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