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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
Well, UTSA isn't interested in the AAC because they can't afford it. That would also make them not a candidate for the MWC, as their budgets are similar to AAC schools.

The whole key to this is UAB. The SBC will add Southern Miss and I think Marshall is, while not a done deal, pretty close.

You stop at 12. UNLESS UAB SAYS NO TO THE AAC.

Then you add them in a heartbeat and decide on school #14. UTSA is the up and coming football program in CUSA (they are 5-0 on the year, getting top 25 votes and their coach is a rising star.) It gives Texas State a travel partner for Olympic Sports. They make perfect sense.

If they aren't interested, you look to the East. Rice is pretty much a non starter, given they are a private school.
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(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Well, UTSA isn't interested in the AAC because they can't afford it. That would also make them not a candidate for the MWC, as their budgets are similar to AAC schools.

The whole key to this is UAB. The SBC will add Southern Miss and I think Marshall is, while not a done deal, pretty close.

You stop at 12. UNLESS UAB SAYS NO TO THE AAC.

Then you add them in a heartbeat and decide on school #14. UTSA is the up and coming football program in CUSA (they are 5-0 on the year, getting top 25 votes and their coach is a rising star.) It gives Texas State a travel partner for Olympic Sports. They make perfect sense.

If they aren't interested, you look to the East. Rice is pretty much a non starter, given they are a private school.

Okay, what is the source if this rumor about UTSA saying no to the AAC? Is there anyone with Twitter blue check mark, or at least a member of a reliable media outlet, who has reported this? It feels like hearsay right now
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(10-04-2021 10:26 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 08:16 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 09:07 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 06:34 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Unfortunately for Texas State the only way we find a rival for them in Texas is to expand using a FCS team. UTSA doesn’t seem interested. They also have AAC interest.
Rice won’t happen. UTEP won’t happen nor would they be a rival for TXST. North Texas isn’t coming back.

I’ve been told that UTSA has informed the AAC it wasn’t interested. The financials don’t make sense with so much instability surrounding the AAC.

If this is true, I think they're SB bound. C-USA WILL lose programs to the SB AND the AAC AND possibly the MW. UTSA will want out of that, one way or the other, even if it is not to the AAC. The SB would likely welcome them so TXST can have a partner.

So, as of 9:16 PM on October 3, I think it's USM, Marshall, UTSA, and a scramble for #14 between WKU, JMU, ODU, and Charlotte.

It would surprise me if UTSA wanted out of C-USA and into the Sun Belt.

It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?
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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
(10-04-2021 01:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:26 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 08:16 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 09:07 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 06:34 AM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  Unfortunately for Texas State the only way we find a rival for them in Texas is to expand using a FCS team. UTSA doesn’t seem interested. They also have AAC interest.
Rice won’t happen. UTEP won’t happen nor would they be a rival for TXST. North Texas isn’t coming back.

I’ve been told that UTSA has informed the AAC it wasn’t interested. The financials don’t make sense with so much instability surrounding the AAC.

If this is true, I think they're SB bound. C-USA WILL lose programs to the SB AND the AAC AND possibly the MW. UTSA will want out of that, one way or the other, even if it is not to the AAC. The SB would likely welcome them so TXST can have a partner.

So, as of 9:16 PM on October 3, I think it's USM, Marshall, UTSA, and a scramble for #14 between WKU, JMU, ODU, and Charlotte.

It would surprise me if UTSA wanted out of C-USA and into the Sun Belt.

It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?

Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.
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(10-04-2021 01:18 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:26 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 08:16 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 09:07 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  I’ve been told that UTSA has informed the AAC it wasn’t interested. The financials don’t make sense with so much instability surrounding the AAC.

If this is true, I think they're SB bound. C-USA WILL lose programs to the SB AND the AAC AND possibly the MW. UTSA will want out of that, one way or the other, even if it is not to the AAC. The SB would likely welcome them so TXST can have a partner.

So, as of 9:16 PM on October 3, I think it's USM, Marshall, UTSA, and a scramble for #14 between WKU, JMU, ODU, and Charlotte.

It would surprise me if UTSA wanted out of C-USA and into the Sun Belt.

It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?

Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.

I doubt the MWC would expand into Texas with CUSA schools. Maybe SMU if they were interested.
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(10-04-2021 01:18 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:26 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 08:16 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 09:07 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  I’ve been told that UTSA has informed the AAC it wasn’t interested. The financials don’t make sense with so much instability surrounding the AAC.

If this is true, I think they're SB bound. C-USA WILL lose programs to the SB AND the AAC AND possibly the MW. UTSA will want out of that, one way or the other, even if it is not to the AAC. The SB would likely welcome them so TXST can have a partner.

So, as of 9:16 PM on October 3, I think it's USM, Marshall, UTSA, and a scramble for #14 between WKU, JMU, ODU, and Charlotte.

It would surprise me if UTSA wanted out of C-USA and into the Sun Belt.

It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?

Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.

I just don't see that. MWC will, most likely stand pat. And the most C-USA teams that AAC takes is 1 or 2. SunBelt MAY take USM. That's probably it. USM is one of the weakest football teams in the C-USA.
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(10-04-2021 11:31 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Well, UTSA isn't interested in the AAC because they can't afford it. That would also make them not a candidate for the MWC, as their budgets are similar to AAC schools.

The whole key to this is UAB. The SBC will add Southern Miss and I think Marshall is, while not a done deal, pretty close.

You stop at 12. UNLESS UAB SAYS NO TO THE AAC.

Then you add them in a heartbeat and decide on school #14. UTSA is the up and coming football program in CUSA (they are 5-0 on the year, getting top 25 votes and their coach is a rising star.) It gives Texas State a travel partner for Olympic Sports. They make perfect sense.

If they aren't interested, you look to the East. Rice is pretty much a non starter, given they are a private school.

Okay, what is the source if this rumor about UTSA saying no to the AAC? Is there anyone with Twitter blue check mark, or at least a member of a reliable media outlet, who has reported this? It feels like hearsay right now

poop.

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Link: https://mobile.twitter.com/Poop77128665/...65313?s=19
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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
(10-04-2021 01:52 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:18 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:26 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 08:16 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  If this is true, I think they're SB bound. C-USA WILL lose programs to the SB AND the AAC AND possibly the MW. UTSA will want out of that, one way or the other, even if it is not to the AAC. The SB would likely welcome them so TXST can have a partner.

So, as of 9:16 PM on October 3, I think it's USM, Marshall, UTSA, and a scramble for #14 between WKU, JMU, ODU, and Charlotte.

It would surprise me if UTSA wanted out of C-USA and into the Sun Belt.

It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?

Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.

I just don't see that. MWC will, most likely stand pat. And the most C-USA teams that AAC takes is 1 or 2. SunBelt MAY take USM. That's probably it. USM is one of the weakest football teams in the C-USA.

Only time will tell if the SB is able to get any schools from C-USA. I think two is highly likely, four possible. I agree the AAC would be wise to take two; diminishing returns

As for why UTSA would say yes to a SB invitation, it is because this is a hard question to answer:

"What about C-USA is going well?"

There are things that are going well. Sure.

But this question is easier to answer:

"What about the Sun Belt is going well?"


Not saying it would be a slam dunk that just any C-USA school would go to the SB. I'm just saying that those two questions, and how they're answered, sheds some light.
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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
(10-04-2021 11:31 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Well, UTSA isn't interested in the AAC because they can't afford it. That would also make them not a candidate for the MWC, as their budgets are similar to AAC schools.

The whole key to this is UAB. The SBC will add Southern Miss and I think Marshall is, while not a done deal, pretty close.

You stop at 12. UNLESS UAB SAYS NO TO THE AAC.

Then you add them in a heartbeat and decide on school #14. UTSA is the up and coming football program in CUSA (they are 5-0 on the year, getting top 25 votes and their coach is a rising star.) It gives Texas State a travel partner for Olympic Sports. They make perfect sense.

If they aren't interested, you look to the East. Rice is pretty much a non starter, given they are a private school.

Okay, what is the source if this rumor about UTSA saying no to the AAC? Is there anyone with Twitter blue check mark, or at least a member of a reliable media outlet, who has reported this? It feels like hearsay right now

Well,I am one of the sources. Based on my sources. And, I trust my sources.
Now, I suppose I could go and get that blue check mark thing....
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(10-04-2021 03:46 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 11:31 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Well, UTSA isn't interested in the AAC because they can't afford it. That would also make them not a candidate for the MWC, as their budgets are similar to AAC schools.

The whole key to this is UAB. The SBC will add Southern Miss and I think Marshall is, while not a done deal, pretty close.

You stop at 12. UNLESS UAB SAYS NO TO THE AAC.

Then you add them in a heartbeat and decide on school #14. UTSA is the up and coming football program in CUSA (they are 5-0 on the year, getting top 25 votes and their coach is a rising star.) It gives Texas State a travel partner for Olympic Sports. They make perfect sense.

If they aren't interested, you look to the East. Rice is pretty much a non starter, given they are a private school.

Okay, what is the source if this rumor about UTSA saying no to the AAC? Is there anyone with Twitter blue check mark, or at least a member of a reliable media outlet, who has reported this? It feels like hearsay right now

Well,I am one of the sources. Based on my sources. And, I trust my sources.
Now, I suppose I could go and get that blue check mark thing....

You have a blue check mark... in my heart. 03-lmfao
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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
(10-04-2021 03:46 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 11:31 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Well, UTSA isn't interested in the AAC because they can't afford it. That would also make them not a candidate for the MWC, as their budgets are similar to AAC schools.

The whole key to this is UAB. The SBC will add Southern Miss and I think Marshall is, while not a done deal, pretty close.

You stop at 12. UNLESS UAB SAYS NO TO THE AAC.

Then you add them in a heartbeat and decide on school #14. UTSA is the up and coming football program in CUSA (they are 5-0 on the year, getting top 25 votes and their coach is a rising star.) It gives Texas State a travel partner for Olympic Sports. They make perfect sense.

If they aren't interested, you look to the East. Rice is pretty much a non starter, given they are a private school.

Okay, what is the source if this rumor about UTSA saying no to the AAC? Is there anyone with Twitter blue check mark, or at least a member of a reliable media outlet, who has reported this? It feels like hearsay right now

Well,I am one of the sources. Based on my sources. And, I trust my sources.
Now, I suppose I could go and get that blue check mark thing....

BOP if you have already addressed my apologies but thoughts on the rumblings of UTA and LR possibly getting the boot from the league?
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(10-04-2021 03:53 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 03:46 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 11:31 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:40 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Well, UTSA isn't interested in the AAC because they can't afford it. That would also make them not a candidate for the MWC, as their budgets are similar to AAC schools.

The whole key to this is UAB. The SBC will add Southern Miss and I think Marshall is, while not a done deal, pretty close.

You stop at 12. UNLESS UAB SAYS NO TO THE AAC.

Then you add them in a heartbeat and decide on school #14. UTSA is the up and coming football program in CUSA (they are 5-0 on the year, getting top 25 votes and their coach is a rising star.) It gives Texas State a travel partner for Olympic Sports. They make perfect sense.

If they aren't interested, you look to the East. Rice is pretty much a non starter, given they are a private school.

Okay, what is the source if this rumor about UTSA saying no to the AAC? Is there anyone with Twitter blue check mark, or at least a member of a reliable media outlet, who has reported this? It feels like hearsay right now

Well,I am one of the sources. Based on my sources. And, I trust my sources.
Now, I suppose I could go and get that blue check mark thing....

BOP if you have already addressed my apologies but thoughts on the rumblings of UTA and LR possibly getting the boot from the league?

I know nothing about a directive by the league kicking anyone out.

However, I wouldn't be surprised (again, nothing concrete) if they haven't quietly been told to look for another landing spot.
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(10-04-2021 01:32 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
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(10-04-2021 01:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:26 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(10-03-2021 08:16 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  If this is true, I think they're SB bound. C-USA WILL lose programs to the SB AND the AAC AND possibly the MW. UTSA will want out of that, one way or the other, even if it is not to the AAC. The SB would likely welcome them so TXST can have a partner.

So, as of 9:16 PM on October 3, I think it's USM, Marshall, UTSA, and a scramble for #14 between WKU, JMU, ODU, and Charlotte.

It would surprise me if UTSA wanted out of C-USA and into the Sun Belt.

It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?

Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.

I doubt the MWC would expand into Texas with CUSA schools. Maybe SMU if they were interested.

It might surprise you to hear this, but it's a fact that the MWC offered UTSA entrance in 2013, the same year that C-USA offered us. UTSA had a football team for only two years at the time, one year as an FCS Independent, and the second year in the WAC (when the WAC was still FBS). We chose C-USA over the MWC though because there would be other Texas schools in there with us and the travel costs of being in C-USA at the time were also lower.
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(10-04-2021 03:36 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:52 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:18 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 10:26 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  It would surprise me if UTSA wanted out of C-USA and into the Sun Belt.

It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?

Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.

I just don't see that. MWC will, most likely stand pat. And the most C-USA teams that AAC takes is 1 or 2. SunBelt MAY take USM. That's probably it. USM is one of the weakest football teams in the C-USA.

Only time will tell if the SB is able to get any schools from C-USA. I think two is highly likely, four possible. I agree the AAC would be wise to take two; diminishing returns

As for why UTSA would say yes to a SB invitation, it is because this is a hard question to answer:

"What about C-USA is going well?"

There are things that are going well. Sure.

But this question is easier to answer:

"What about the Sun Belt is going well?"


Not saying it would be a slam dunk that just any C-USA school would go to the SB. I'm just saying that those two questions, and how they're answered, sheds some light.

I still don't know why UTSA would go to SBC. Their situation is similar to ours and there is no possible way our school would demote itself.
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(10-04-2021 06:45 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
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(10-04-2021 01:52 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
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(10-04-2021 01:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  It would surprise me too. UTSA has a non-zero chance to go to MWC or AAC, why would they go the lateral (at best) route?

Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.

I just don't see that. MWC will, most likely stand pat. And the most C-USA teams that AAC takes is 1 or 2. SunBelt MAY take USM. That's probably it. USM is one of the weakest football teams in the C-USA.

Only time will tell if the SB is able to get any schools from C-USA. I think two is highly likely, four possible. I agree the AAC would be wise to take two; diminishing returns

As for why UTSA would say yes to a SB invitation, it is because this is a hard question to answer:

"What about C-USA is going well?"

There are things that are going well. Sure.

But this question is easier to answer:

"What about the Sun Belt is going well?"


Not saying it would be a slam dunk that just any C-USA school would go to the SB. I'm just saying that those two questions, and how they're answered, sheds some light.

I still don't know why UTSA would go to SBC. Their situation is similar to ours and there is no possible way our school would demote itself.
A UTSA and FAU/FIU add to the SBC seemingly goes against anything the SBC is trying to accomplish niche wise. If the Sun Belt strays away from what has been working, how are we any different as a league? The SBC has kinda created an alternative for the AAC format, for a different brand of universities and it seems foolish to stray away from what's worked and has guided some success for the most part.
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(10-04-2021 06:53 PM)TealNation Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 06:45 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 03:36 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:52 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:18 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  Because C-USA is about to be completely picked apart by the AAC, the SB, and possibly the MW.

I just don't see that. MWC will, most likely stand pat. And the most C-USA teams that AAC takes is 1 or 2. SunBelt MAY take USM. That's probably it. USM is one of the weakest football teams in the C-USA.

Only time will tell if the SB is able to get any schools from C-USA. I think two is highly likely, four possible. I agree the AAC would be wise to take two; diminishing returns

As for why UTSA would say yes to a SB invitation, it is because this is a hard question to answer:

"What about C-USA is going well?"

There are things that are going well. Sure.

But this question is easier to answer:

"What about the Sun Belt is going well?"


Not saying it would be a slam dunk that just any C-USA school would go to the SB. I'm just saying that those two questions, and how they're answered, sheds some light.

I still don't know why UTSA would go to SBC. Their situation is similar to ours and there is no possible way our school would demote itself.
A UTSA and FAU/FIU add to the SBC seemingly goes against anything the SBC is trying to accomplish niche wise. If the Sun Belt strays away from what has been working, how are we any different as a league? The SBC has kinda created an alternative for the AAC format, for a different brand of universities and it seems foolish to stray away from what's worked and has guided some success for the most part.

SunBelt has built itself entirely around football. Period. All other sports are considered secondary, at best and academics do not even seem to matter, at all. As far as models go - it is a legitimate one, I suppose. But, in my opinion, it is very hit or miss and due to cyclical nature of college football, the league may end up literally with nothing.
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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
(10-04-2021 06:58 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
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(10-04-2021 03:36 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:52 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  I just don't see that. MWC will, most likely stand pat. And the most C-USA teams that AAC takes is 1 or 2. SunBelt MAY take USM. That's probably it. USM is one of the weakest football teams in the C-USA.

Only time will tell if the SB is able to get any schools from C-USA. I think two is highly likely, four possible. I agree the AAC would be wise to take two; diminishing returns

As for why UTSA would say yes to a SB invitation, it is because this is a hard question to answer:

"What about C-USA is going well?"

There are things that are going well. Sure.

But this question is easier to answer:

"What about the Sun Belt is going well?"


Not saying it would be a slam dunk that just any C-USA school would go to the SB. I'm just saying that those two questions, and how they're answered, sheds some light.

I still don't know why UTSA would go to SBC. Their situation is similar to ours and there is no possible way our school would demote itself.
A UTSA and FAU/FIU add to the SBC seemingly goes against anything the SBC is trying to accomplish niche wise. If the Sun Belt strays away from what has been working, how are we any different as a league? The SBC has kinda created an alternative for the AAC format, for a different brand of universities and it seems foolish to stray away from what's worked and has guided some success for the most part.

SunBelt has built itself entirely around football. Period. All other sports are considered secondary, at best and academics do not even seem to matter, at all. As far as models go - it is a legitimate one, I suppose. But, in my opinion, it is very hit or miss and due to cyclical nature of college football, the league may end up literally with nothing.
Football/Basketball are the two most dominant and lucrative sports point blank. A non A5 league should try to excel in at least one of the two. For this reason, the SBC has chosen to focus on Football, but that doesn't mean we won't get production from other sports down the line. Baseball is a really solid league, and generates a healthy schedule. I don't think academics for a non A5 league should matter extensively to the point they do in a A5 conference, but you should wanna surround yourself with Universities that act and think similarly to you however, for a multitude of reasons.
10-04-2021 07:18 PM
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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
(10-04-2021 06:58 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 06:53 PM)TealNation Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 06:45 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 03:36 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(10-04-2021 01:52 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  I just don't see that. MWC will, most likely stand pat. And the most C-USA teams that AAC takes is 1 or 2. SunBelt MAY take USM. That's probably it. USM is one of the weakest football teams in the C-USA.

Only time will tell if the SB is able to get any schools from C-USA. I think two is highly likely, four possible. I agree the AAC would be wise to take two; diminishing returns

As for why UTSA would say yes to a SB invitation, it is because this is a hard question to answer:

"What about C-USA is going well?"

There are things that are going well. Sure.

But this question is easier to answer:

"What about the Sun Belt is going well?"


Not saying it would be a slam dunk that just any C-USA school would go to the SB. I'm just saying that those two questions, and how they're answered, sheds some light.

I still don't know why UTSA would go to SBC. Their situation is similar to ours and there is no possible way our school would demote itself.
A UTSA and FAU/FIU add to the SBC seemingly goes against anything the SBC is trying to accomplish niche wise. If the Sun Belt strays away from what has been working, how are we any different as a league? The SBC has kinda created an alternative for the AAC format, for a different brand of universities and it seems foolish to stray away from what's worked and has guided some success for the most part.

SunBelt has built itself entirely around football. Period. All other sports are considered secondary, at best and academics do not even seem to matter, at all. As far as models go - it is a legitimate one, I suppose. But, in my opinion, it is very hit or miss and due to cyclical nature of college football, the league may end up literally with nothing.

I don’t understand why you say “academics don’t even seem to matter”. Just because not everyone is a R1 school means anything. Heck Memphis is about to be R1 and people still poop on their academics.
10-04-2021 07:21 PM
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RE: Who else do you take in the east?
I'd add USM, Marshall, LaTech (I know, I know), and then WKU or JMU. Stick to the model of medium-sized public schools in smaller markets and be the South's MAC.
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