(09-11-2021 05:20 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 02:40 PM)nobledictator1278 Wrote:  Icing this kicker feels more like prolonging my agony

(09-11-2021 05:07 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Holton is just not the guy that's going to get us over the hump. It pains me to say it because he's a great kid and he's a Pirate to the bone, but its time to see what Garcia has and try to get this thing kick started before the season is gone and we're 3-9 again.

What are our 3 wins?

There aren't three on the schedule. Play like this against Charleston Southern and it's 0-12

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(09-11-2021 06:16 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 03:45 PM)b2b Wrote:  I'm ready to see Mike Houston go. I was really hoping he'd be the guy. Early in I thought maybe he was. I was wrong. Time to move on after the season ends.

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I am not quite ready. I feel like the defense is making strides. If we get rid of MH, in comes a new coaching staff, a new defense, and here we go again starting over. Now I could see a change at OC at the end of the year if things don’t improve, but I don’t think we’re quite at making a coaching change unless things really go south. That’s just my take.

Kirkpatrick needs to go now. He's just not a decent OC. Houston needs to can him and probably sit Ahlers for the next couple games.

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ECU beats Charleston, USF, Temple, Navy

Should have just let Snead play QB.

(09-11-2021 07:41 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Should have just let Snead play QB.

Definitely made the best throw of the day between either team

(09-11-2021 07:35 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  ECU beats Charleston, USF, Temple, Navy

Wouldn’t go guaranteeing that, but I feel pretty confident those are the only possible wins.

I’m done listening to anything that arrogant chest puffing loser has to say.

(09-11-2021 10:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I’m done listening to anything that arrogant chest puffing loser has to say.

I believe his time in Greenville is humbling him. He has prospered at every job he’s had as a coach. He’s been able to rinse, recycle, and repeat his coaching methods successfully everywhere else except East Carolina. It’s like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose. I think he has taken the proverbial punch in the nose more than he could count since he has been at ECU.

(09-11-2021 11:04 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I’m done listening to anything that arrogant chest puffing loser has to say.

I believe his time in Greenville is humbling him. He has prospered at every job he’s had as a coach. He’s been able to rinse, recycle, and repeat his coaching methods successfully everywhere else except East Carolina. It’s like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose. I think he has taken the proverbial punch in the nose more than he could count since he has been at ECU.

If he were actually humbled there would be some admission that the style of offense he wants to run will never work here (or at the very least not with Holton running it) but he’s gonna keep doing it till he gets fired because he won’t adjust or bench Holton.

(09-12-2021 07:30 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 11:04 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I’m done listening to anything that arrogant chest puffing loser has to say.

I believe his time in Greenville is humbling him. He has prospered at every job he’s had as a coach. He’s been able to rinse, recycle, and repeat his coaching methods successfully everywhere else except East Carolina. It’s like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose. I think he has taken the proverbial punch in the nose more than he could count since he has been at ECU.

If he were actually humbled there would be some admission that the style of offense he wants to run will never work here (or at the very least not with Holton running it) but he’s gonna keep doing it till he gets fired because he won’t adjust or bench Holton.

Oh, I don’t disagree with you. He needs to change something on that side of the ball. It’s ugly. It’s not working. There is something that needs to change with Holton, the scheme, or both.

(09-12-2021 07:30 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 11:04 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I’m done listening to anything that arrogant chest puffing loser has to say.

I believe his time in Greenville is humbling him. He has prospered at every job he’s had as a coach. He’s been able to rinse, recycle, and repeat his coaching methods successfully everywhere else except East Carolina. It’s like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose. I think he has taken the proverbial punch in the nose more than he could count since he has been at ECU.

If he were actually humbled there would be some admission that the style of offense he wants to run will never work here (or at the very least not with Holton running it) but he’s gonna keep doing it till he gets fired because he won’t adjust or bench Holton.

This is the red flag for me. I don't see him changing paths when something's not working. It was one thing in year 1 when he didn't have his own players. But now we are up to the scholarship limit with mostly freshmen and sophomores that he brought in and it's still not working. If Holton is the cog that's out of order, he needs to try onc of the pieces he brought in to fit his system.

He's not going anywhere, and maybe when these guys are upper classmen there will be some huge turnaround, but I don't have a good feeling about it right now.

I will say that the defense is doing something it hasn't done since the Skip Holtz era, which is forcing turnovers. They did a great job stripping a couple of balls away yesterday.

Did SC start that grad assistant at QB again?

(09-12-2021 09:24 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Did SC start that grad assistant at QB again?

Yep, and he was stinky stink trash.

(09-12-2021 08:21 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-12-2021 07:30 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 11:04 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I’m done listening to anything that arrogant chest puffing loser has to say.

I believe his time in Greenville is humbling him. He has prospered at every job he’s had as a coach. He’s been able to rinse, recycle, and repeat his coaching methods successfully everywhere else except East Carolina. It’s like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose. I think he has taken the proverbial punch in the nose more than he could count since he has been at ECU.

If he were actually humbled there would be some admission that the style of offense he wants to run will never work here (or at the very least not with Holton running it) but he’s gonna keep doing it till he gets fired because he won’t adjust or bench Holton.

Oh, I don’t disagree with you. He needs to change something on that side of the ball. It’s ugly. It’s not working. There is something that needs to change with Holton, the scheme, or both.

There is no offensive scheme, no game plan, no attempt to exploit defensive weaknesses.

The only way this offense works with Ahlers is with him running an up tempo rpo with layered crossing routes. He's got to have the freedom to call one or two plays and then the option to pass, give, or run every play. He has to make quick decisions and get the ball out.

I think you sit Ahlers down and tell him what he should know. He's not an NFL qb. He's barely a D1 qb. Tell him if he wants to leave ECU better than he found it, he's got to sell out every play, and he's the only one that can lead the offense.

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(09-12-2021 09:46 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(09-12-2021 08:21 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-12-2021 07:30 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 11:04 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(09-11-2021 10:39 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  I’m done listening to anything that arrogant chest puffing loser has to say.

I believe his time in Greenville is humbling him. He has prospered at every job he’s had as a coach. He’s been able to rinse, recycle, and repeat his coaching methods successfully everywhere else except East Carolina. It’s like Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the nose. I think he has taken the proverbial punch in the nose more than he could count since he has been at ECU.

If he were actually humbled there would be some admission that the style of offense he wants to run will never work here (or at the very least not with Holton running it) but he’s gonna keep doing it till he gets fired because he won’t adjust or bench Holton.

Oh, I don’t disagree with you. He needs to change something on that side of the ball. It’s ugly. It’s not working. There is something that needs to change with Holton, the scheme, or both.

There is no offensive scheme, no game plan, no attempt to exploit defensive weaknesses.

The only way this offense works with Ahlers is with him running an up tempo rpo with layered crossing routes. He's got to have the freedom to call one or two plays and then the option to pass, give, or run every play. He has to make quick decisions and get the ball out.

I think you sit Ahlers down and tell him what he should know. He's not an NFL qb. He's barely a D1 qb. Tell him if he wants to leave ECU better than he found it, he's got to sell out every play, and he's the only one that can lead the offense.

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I think under the correct scheme he's absolutely a D1 QB. You don't have the career and games he's had if you are completely hopeless. He's not an NFL QB, he's not a guy who can just sit in the pocket and go through progressions and deliver accurate passes with zip. That's not him and if they continue to try to force him to be that he will continue to not look like a D1 QB. In the right offense, he could look like a great D1 QB.

This game made me sick.


Let em slip off the hook