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What's the difference between Fighting Irish Football and a dollar? A dollar is good for 4 quarters.
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(09-05-2021 07:38 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  ND has a big 6'4" 250 lb. elusive tight end who I can see giving UT all sorts of fits.

I can see Turner giving them fits.
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(09-05-2021 09:34 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  My tix were emailed.

I love the score as it sits 38-20. Shows us what will work and what wont. ND will feel comfy. May be a bit too energized on their homeopener and not respect us like they should. Id like it better if Cincy was a week after us, but it not a bad scenario.

Coan has looked real composed. Their Safety is out of this world. 2 INTs and a Pass break up on another INT. Their TE is a monster, but the Oline has been gotten. FSU has a guy with 2 Sacks and some TFAs. Hes a Georgia transfer tho. Still. Gona have to win special teams and get a little lucky. Rarely are we blown out OOC. I hope we dont. Cincy in 2014 maybe was the last time, but we were down 41-0 and cut it to 9 with the ball driving so not even then.

Coan looked real composed until the wheels started coming off.
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Looks like ND had some significant injuries on Sunday.
https://www.onefootdown.com/2021/9/6/226...-to-toledo

Oh, if the local media would actually ask our coached about injuries.
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(09-05-2021 09:24 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Has anyone actually received your tickets for the Notre Dame game. I haven’t

My tickets came by email. You need to click the link to download your tickets to your “wallet”.

The email said to do this before game time, since signal could be sketchy, and you need them to be ready to show on your phone.
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This will be a tough game and a nice opportunity for UT. ND recruiting is very good, and it shows on the field. Same for Toledo, though. I am hoping Toledo can establish the run, and protect the ball. No dropped passes. UT has nice depth on both lines, which will be very important. UT has great experienced skill players and plays with nice team speed. I was concerned many of the bone head mistakes were from some of the most experienced players. That must stop. Let your play speak for itself. I look forward to being at the game. I am a little concerned 70+K Roman Catholics haven’t had a chance to tail gate for a year. Yikes!

The guys just need to play tough and focus. If you can’t focus for this, what can you focus on?
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(09-06-2021 06:02 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-05-2021 07:38 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  ND has a big 6'4" 250 lb. elusive tight end who I can see giving UT all sorts of fits.

I can see Turner giving them fits.

He didn’t have a catch against Norfolk. I think this current set of tight ends might be underutilized.
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Notre Dame against MAC schools in the past:

2010, 44-20 over WMU
2015, 62-27 over UMASS (yes the minutemen was in the MAC then)
2017, 52-17 over Miami
2018, 24-16 over Ball St, BTW BSU was down 24-6 going into the 4th and scored the last 10 points. BSU finished the season at 4-8 and 3-5 inside the MAC
2019, 52-0 over BGSU
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(09-06-2021 09:54 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Notre Dame against MAC schools in the past:

2010, 44-20 over WMU
2015, 62-27 over UMASS (yes the minutemen was in the MAC then)
2017, 52-17 over Miami
2018, 24-16 over Ball St, BTW BSU was down 24-6 going into the 4th and scored the last 10 points. BSU finished the season at 4-8 and 3-5 inside the MAC
2019, 52-0 over BGSU

BG only practiced us in 2019 and gave no ***** about ND the week before demoloshing our special teams in 2019. That one still hurts.

We are the best MAC team theyve played and its not close. Theyre also the best team we have faced since OSU in 2009 or Boise in 2011. Hon mention either Mizzou team from 2013 or 2014.
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(09-06-2021 10:41 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 09:54 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Notre Dame against MAC schools in the past:

2010, 44-20 over WMU
2015, 62-27 over UMASS (yes the minutemen was in the MAC then)
2017, 52-17 over Miami
2018, 24-16 over Ball St, BTW BSU was down 24-6 going into the 4th and scored the last 10 points. BSU finished the season at 4-8 and 3-5 inside the MAC
2019, 52-0 over BGSU

BG only practiced us in 2019 and gave no ***** about ND the week before demoloshing our special teams in 2019. That one still hurts.

We are the best MAC team theyve played and its not close. Theyre also the best team we have faced since OSU in 2009 or Boise in 2011. Hon mention either Mizzou team from 2013 or 2014.

2013 Mizzou finished #5 in the AP Poll.
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(09-05-2021 09:24 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Has anyone actually received your tickets for the Notre Dame game. I haven’t

received ours weeks ago-but they are e-tickets, I don't think printed tickets were an option, so none were "sent" via mail
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(09-07-2021 02:22 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 10:41 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 09:54 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Notre Dame against MAC schools in the past:

2010, 44-20 over WMU
2015, 62-27 over UMASS (yes the minutemen was in the MAC then)
2017, 52-17 over Miami
2018, 24-16 over Ball St, BTW BSU was down 24-6 going into the 4th and scored the last 10 points. BSU finished the season at 4-8 and 3-5 inside the MAC
2019, 52-0 over BGSU

BG only practiced us in 2019 and gave no ***** about ND the week before demoloshing our special teams in 2019. That one still hurts.

We are the best MAC team theyve played and its not close. Theyre also the best team we have faced since OSU in 2009 or Boise in 2011. Hon mention either Mizzou team from 2013 or 2014.

2013 Mizzou finished #5 in the AP Poll.

But wasnt a top 10 team entering the game.
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(09-06-2021 10:41 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 09:54 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Notre Dame against MAC schools in the past:

2010, 44-20 over WMU
2015, 62-27 over UMASS (yes the minutemen was in the MAC then)
2017, 52-17 over Miami
2018, 24-16 over Ball St, BTW BSU was down 24-6 going into the 4th and scored the last 10 points. BSU finished the season at 4-8 and 3-5 inside the MAC
2019, 52-0 over BGSU

BG only practiced us in 2019 and gave no ***** about ND the week before demoloshing our special teams in 2019. That one still hurts.

We are the best MAC team theyve played and its not close. Theyre also the best team we have faced since OSU in 2009 or Boise in 2011. Hon mention either Mizzou team from 2013 or 2014.

Brian Kelly seems to agree:

"This is, in my estimation after watching some of their film, this is probably the finest MAC team that we've brought into the stadium since I've been here at Notre Dame", Kelly said Monday afternoon. "We're going to have to be prepared and we're on a short week"
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Spread opened last week at +19.5 now to +16.5. Not sure if the public or the money is on Toledo.
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(09-06-2021 06:50 PM)PTLROCK Wrote:  
(09-05-2021 09:24 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Has anyone actually received your tickets for the Notre Dame game. I haven’t

My tickets came by email. You need to click the link to download your tickets to your “wallet”.

The email said to do this before game time, since signal could be sketchy, and you need them to be ready to show on your phone.

Well I found out for some reason my order did not go through for my tickets. Don’t know exactly what happened. Probably because I tried to do it myself. I’m a nitwit it comes to ordering on like line. But luck was on my side and they still had the tickets available.
Where is everyone parking and what time are you guys plan on arriving?
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(09-07-2021 06:18 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 06:50 PM)PTLROCK Wrote:  
(09-05-2021 09:24 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  Has anyone actually received your tickets for the Notre Dame game. I haven’t

My tickets came by email. You need to click the link to download your tickets to your “wallet”.

The email said to do this before game time, since signal could be sketchy, and you need them to be ready to show on your phone.

Well I found out for some reason my order did not go through for my tickets. Don’t know exactly what happened. Probably because I tried to do it myself. I’m a nitwit it comes to ordering on like line. But luck was on my side and they still had the tickets available.
Where is everyone parking and what time are you guys plan on arriving?

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(09-06-2021 04:17 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 02:27 PM)pono Wrote:  ND is big strong fast but not that tight at this point. They got some good defensive players but were far from dominant. Offensively, again lots of playmakers and a huge line, but struggled at times with pass protection and most of their running yards were on the creativity of the back not huge holes in the line. Clearly a big task, but I like that they were playing a road game at 12:15 a.m. Monday morning. We essentially get 2 extra days to rest and prepare. Gotta take advantage of the extra game planning early and get a lead before depth becomes an issue. Ball St played them a couple years back and nearly won with good execution in the short-mid passing game and solid tackling. Just canʻt leave points on the field, gotta make every opportunity count.

They (ND) have some Podcast guys who have done a real deep dive on Toledo and the Ball State point came up. According to some coaches it was "the weirdest week of practice ever." Apparently they rested their starters thru practice in preperation to play the backups most of the game. Instead the 1s never got a chance to come off the field and the 1s stayed clueless. It was apparently a big mistake that Brian Kelly will never make again. The Dline of Ball State also made a ton of creative stunts and slants to get to the QB which ND was not ready for, and was in the backfield all game.

I was at that ND/Ball State game. They thing the podcast didn’t mention was the ND coaches put a leash on Wimbush and told him not to run. They wanted to work on the passing game. Ball State was running stunts and the ND OL was pushing them past Wimbush like they should, but Wimbush wasn’t allowed to take off. There were so many plays he would have literally 25-30 yards of open field in front of him and he would run up to & stop at the LOS & wait to try to throw it. The crowd was screaming “RUN!” every time. If he would have just been allowed to run, ND scores 50 in that game. Little over a week later ND switched to Book. Ball State’s pass rush would have been disastrous for them if Wimbush was allowed to run. The podcast you listened to is done by a guy who hates the current ND OL coach & blames him for everything. So he says the ND OL wasn’t prepared for the stunts, but he is 100% wrong. The ND OL did exactly what you are supposed to do, which is just ride the stunt out & push them past the QB, which is what they did. If you listen to Driskell just know he has favorites who can do no wrong & dislikes who he will always blame & never give credit.
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(09-07-2021 06:36 PM)ND1618 Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 04:17 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 02:27 PM)pono Wrote:  ND is big strong fast but not that tight at this point. They got some good defensive players but were far from dominant. Offensively, again lots of playmakers and a huge line, but struggled at times with pass protection and most of their running yards were on the creativity of the back not huge holes in the line. Clearly a big task, but I like that they were playing a road game at 12:15 a.m. Monday morning. We essentially get 2 extra days to rest and prepare. Gotta take advantage of the extra game planning early and get a lead before depth becomes an issue. Ball St played them a couple years back and nearly won with good execution in the short-mid passing game and solid tackling. Just canʻt leave points on the field, gotta make every opportunity count.

They (ND) have some Podcast guys who have done a real deep dive on Toledo and the Ball State point came up. According to some coaches it was "the weirdest week of practice ever." Apparently they rested their starters thru practice in preperation to play the backups most of the game. Instead the 1s never got a chance to come off the field and the 1s stayed clueless. It was apparently a big mistake that Brian Kelly will never make again. The Dline of Ball State also made a ton of creative stunts and slants to get to the QB which ND was not ready for, and was in the backfield all game.

I was at that ND/Ball State game. They thing the podcast didn’t mention was the ND coaches put a leash on Wimbush and told him not to run. They wanted to work on the passing game. Ball State was running stunts and the ND OL was pushing them past Wimbush like they should, but Wimbush wasn’t allowed to take off. There were so many plays he would have literally 25-30 yards of open field in front of him and he would run up to & stop at the LOS & wait to try to throw it. The crowd was screaming “RUN!” every time. If he would have just been allowed to run, ND scores 50 in that game. Little over a week later ND switched to Book. Ball State’s pass rush would have been disastrous for them if Wimbush was allowed to run. The podcast you listened to is done by a guy who hates the current ND OL coach & blames him for everything. So he says the ND OL wasn’t prepared for the stunts, but he is 100% wrong. The ND OL did exactly what you are supposed to do, which is just ride the stunt out & push them past the QB, which is what they did. If you listen to Driskell just know he has favorites who can do no wrong & dislikes who he will always blame & never give credit.
Ive listened to every ND podcast on Spotify and like those two the most. One guy just screamed and called the DC, BVG the whole time. But thanks for the info!

I feel worse after watching the ND game. Id rather play PSU like Ball State or even Wisconsin like EMU. But this is huge for the Area as ND is the last close big guy we havent faced. Michigan with success. OSU very close to success. Theres nothing in our film to help you guys so that is reassuring. If yall cant run, youre pretty screwed (offensively) IMO. Our back end is fantastic for any level of the FBS. Linebacker and lack of DL size is our issue. Even though the DL is leadership ridden and deep. No clue what our offense will throw at ya.
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(09-07-2021 06:43 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 06:36 PM)ND1618 Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 04:17 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 02:27 PM)pono Wrote:  ND is big strong fast but not that tight at this point. They got some good defensive players but were far from dominant. Offensively, again lots of playmakers and a huge line, but struggled at times with pass protection and most of their running yards were on the creativity of the back not huge holes in the line. Clearly a big task, but I like that they were playing a road game at 12:15 a.m. Monday morning. We essentially get 2 extra days to rest and prepare. Gotta take advantage of the extra game planning early and get a lead before depth becomes an issue. Ball St played them a couple years back and nearly won with good execution in the short-mid passing game and solid tackling. Just canʻt leave points on the field, gotta make every opportunity count.

They (ND) have some Podcast guys who have done a real deep dive on Toledo and the Ball State point came up. According to some coaches it was "the weirdest week of practice ever." Apparently they rested their starters thru practice in preperation to play the backups most of the game. Instead the 1s never got a chance to come off the field and the 1s stayed clueless. It was apparently a big mistake that Brian Kelly will never make again. The Dline of Ball State also made a ton of creative stunts and slants to get to the QB which ND was not ready for, and was in the backfield all game.

I was at that ND/Ball State game. They thing the podcast didn’t mention was the ND coaches put a leash on Wimbush and told him not to run. They wanted to work on the passing game. Ball State was running stunts and the ND OL was pushing them past Wimbush like they should, but Wimbush wasn’t allowed to take off. There were so many plays he would have literally 25-30 yards of open field in front of him and he would run up to & stop at the LOS & wait to try to throw it. The crowd was screaming “RUN!” every time. If he would have just been allowed to run, ND scores 50 in that game. Little over a week later ND switched to Book. Ball State’s pass rush would have been disastrous for them if Wimbush was allowed to run. The podcast you listened to is done by a guy who hates the current ND OL coach & blames him for everything. So he says the ND OL wasn’t prepared for the stunts, but he is 100% wrong. The ND OL did exactly what you are supposed to do, which is just ride the stunt out & push them past the QB, which is what they did. If you listen to Driskell just know he has favorites who can do no wrong & dislikes who he will always blame & never give credit.
Ive listened to every ND podcast on Spotify and like those two the most. One guy just screamed and called the DC, BVG the whole time. But thanks for the info!

I feel worse after watching the ND game. Id rather play PSU like Ball State or even Wisconsin like EMU. But this is huge for the Area as ND is the last close big guy we havent faced. Michigan with success. OSU very close to success. Theres nothing in our film to help you guys so that is reassuring. If yall cant run, youre pretty screwed (offensively) IMO. Our back end is fantastic for any level of the FBS. Linebacker and lack of DL size is our issue. Even though the DL is leadership ridden and deep. No clue what our offense will throw at ya.

I never thought I would utter these words, but ND’s passing game this season is the best part of the offense. ND ran for 1.9 yards per carry & still scored 41 at FSU, who is all athletes. The two starting receivers, as you probably know from the podcasts, would have been the starters the past two years if not for injuries & suspensions. I don’t think they will make it through the season healthy, but they are now, and while healthy, as long as that lasts, I will put them up against any secondary. Then add in the TE’s & both RBs catch passes in the slot. This team is going to be a passing team, not a running team.
On defense, if the DC just scraps that stupid 3-3-5 and run the 4-3, they will be fine. The DL two deep is the strength of the entire team. The first 2.5 Quarters against FSU they had like 7 sacks, 4 TFL & a bunch of hurries. Then they pull a DL, drop another into coverage, and give up three straight scoring drives. Then in OT went back to the 4-3 & FSU got nothing.
If the DC stayed in the 4-3 when it was 38-20, that game ends probably 45-20. It was a horrible schematic error by Marcus Freeman.
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(09-07-2021 07:15 PM)ND1618 Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 06:43 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-07-2021 06:36 PM)ND1618 Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 04:17 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(09-06-2021 02:27 PM)pono Wrote:  ND is big strong fast but not that tight at this point. They got some good defensive players but were far from dominant. Offensively, again lots of playmakers and a huge line, but struggled at times with pass protection and most of their running yards were on the creativity of the back not huge holes in the line. Clearly a big task, but I like that they were playing a road game at 12:15 a.m. Monday morning. We essentially get 2 extra days to rest and prepare. Gotta take advantage of the extra game planning early and get a lead before depth becomes an issue. Ball St played them a couple years back and nearly won with good execution in the short-mid passing game and solid tackling. Just canʻt leave points on the field, gotta make every opportunity count.

They (ND) have some Podcast guys who have done a real deep dive on Toledo and the Ball State point came up. According to some coaches it was "the weirdest week of practice ever." Apparently they rested their starters thru practice in preperation to play the backups most of the game. Instead the 1s never got a chance to come off the field and the 1s stayed clueless. It was apparently a big mistake that Brian Kelly will never make again. The Dline of Ball State also made a ton of creative stunts and slants to get to the QB which ND was not ready for, and was in the backfield all game.

I was at that ND/Ball State game. They thing the podcast didn’t mention was the ND coaches put a leash on Wimbush and told him not to run. They wanted to work on the passing game. Ball State was running stunts and the ND OL was pushing them past Wimbush like they should, but Wimbush wasn’t allowed to take off. There were so many plays he would have literally 25-30 yards of open field in front of him and he would run up to & stop at the LOS & wait to try to throw it. The crowd was screaming “RUN!” every time. If he would have just been allowed to run, ND scores 50 in that game. Little over a week later ND switched to Book. Ball State’s pass rush would have been disastrous for them if Wimbush was allowed to run. The podcast you listened to is done by a guy who hates the current ND OL coach & blames him for everything. So he says the ND OL wasn’t prepared for the stunts, but he is 100% wrong. The ND OL did exactly what you are supposed to do, which is just ride the stunt out & push them past the QB, which is what they did. If you listen to Driskell just know he has favorites who can do no wrong & dislikes who he will always blame & never give credit.
Ive listened to every ND podcast on Spotify and like those two the most. One guy just screamed and called the DC, BVG the whole time. But thanks for the info!

I feel worse after watching the ND game. Id rather play PSU like Ball State or even Wisconsin like EMU. But this is huge for the Area as ND is the last close big guy we havent faced. Michigan with success. OSU very close to success. Theres nothing in our film to help you guys so that is reassuring. If yall cant run, youre pretty screwed (offensively) IMO. Our back end is fantastic for any level of the FBS. Linebacker and lack of DL size is our issue. Even though the DL is leadership ridden and deep. No clue what our offense will throw at ya.

I never thought I would utter these words, but ND’s passing game this season is the best part of the offense. ND ran for 1.9 yards per carry & still scored 41 at FSU, who is all athletes. The two starting receivers, as you probably know from the podcasts, would have been the starters the past two years if not for injuries & suspensions. I don’t think they will make it through the season healthy, but they are now, and while healthy, as long as that lasts, I will put them up against any secondary. Then add in the TE’s & both RBs catch passes in the slot. This team is going to be a passing team, not a running team.
On defense, if the DC just scraps that stupid 3-3-5 and run the 4-3, they will be fine. The DL two deep is the strength of the entire team. The first 2.5 Quarters against FSU they had like 7 sacks, 4 TFL & a bunch of hurries. Then they pull a DL, drop another into coverage, and give up three straight scoring drives. Then in OT went back to the 4-3 & FSU got nothing.
If the DC stayed in the 4-3 when it was 38-20, that game ends probably 45-20. It was a horrible schematic error by Marcus Freeman.

The 3 man front worked some of the game, yall just didnt adjust quick enough. Id be just fine if you aired it out all game. At least that builds quicker drives and gives us time to score ourselves. The TE will gjve us fits. Its up to us to make Coan uncomfortable by getting in the pocket and forcing mistakes.

Teams in the past have generally dominated us on thr ground in losses. Last year that changed. ND is scoring in the 30s no matter how you draw it up, but if thats on 25 carries for 80 yards Ill take that scenario. Ill just go home saying a Heisman front runner trashed our good defense. Navy and GT are bound to do worse. And possibly Purdue and Virginia too.
09-07-2021 08:51 PM
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