Joel Klatt explains what the alliance between the Pac-12, Big Ten, and ACC means for college football, and how it impacts you, the college football fan.

https://sports.yahoo.com/does-pac-12-big...53515.html

(09-01-2021 02:37 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Joel Klatt explains what the alliance between the Pac-12, Big Ten, and ACC means for college football, and how it impacts you, the college football fan.

https://sports.yahoo.com/does-pac-12-big...53515.html

Thanks CJ.
Interesting perspective presented in a format that even I could understand.

Matching the conference champs is easy. The devil will be in the great middle.

If you look at everyone over the last 4 years not focusing on one year you get 3-4 Tiers:

Top 3:

Clemson, ND, Miami
Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Oregon, USC, Washington

I can't really imagine people want a rematch of the playoff.

Next Tier based on last 4 years:

NC State, Pitt, VT, UVa (UNC not here yet)
Michigan, NW, Iowa, MSU (one more bad year MSU gone)
Washington State, Utah, Stanford, Arizona State

Next Tier - the broadest:

FSU, UNC, BC, WF, Syracuse
Nebraska, Minn, MD, Purdue, Indiana
Cal, Colorado, Arizona, OSU, UCLA,

Bottom:

Louisville, Duke
Illinois, Rutgers

In a matching like this NC State would likely play ASU and MSU because we have played them in the distant past. UNC, Indiana, and Cal make a good match.

ND, USC, and Ohio State ought to work. Clemson, PSU, and Oregon would work as would Miami, Wisconsin, and Washington. I think people would watch.

2nd Tier

NCSU/MSU/ASU, Pitt/Michigan/Stanford, UVa/NW/Utah, VT/WSU/Iowa

Some 3rd Tier

UNC/IND/Cal, FSU/Nebraska/UCLA

(09-01-2021 04:35 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Matching the conference champs is easy. The devil will be in the great middle.

If you look at everyone over the last 4 years not focusing on one year you get 3-4 Tiers:

Top 3:

Clemson, ND, Miami
Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Oregon, USC, Washington

I can't really imagine people want a rematch of the playoff.

Next Tier based on last 4 years:

NC State, Pitt, VT, UVa (UNC not here yet)
Michigan, NW, Iowa, MSU (one more bad year MSU gone)
Washington State, Utah, Stanford, Arizona State

Next Tier - the broadest:

FSU, UNC, BC, WF, Syracuse
Nebraska, Minn, MD, Purdue, Indiana
Cal, Colorado, Arizona, OSU, UCLA,

Bottom:

Louisville, Duke
Illinois, Rutgers

In a matching like this NC State would likely play ASU and MSU because we have played them in the distant past. UNC, Indiana, and Cal make a good match.

ND, USC, and Ohio State ought to work. Clemson, PSU, and Oregon would work as would Miami, Wisconsin, and Washington. I think people would watch.

2nd Tier

NCSU/MSU/ASU, Pitt/Michigan/Stanford, UVa/NW/Utah, VT/WSU/Iowa

Some 3rd Tier

UNC/IND/Cal, FSU/Nebraska/UCLA

If the alliance only gets the first part completed (creating a voting bloc to control the SEC/ESPN) the alliance will have been successful.
Once the scheduling thing gets refined it we'll see how it can be administered. One has to wonder if the ACC will have to play a lot of those alliance games on the road in order to make more money since ESPN might not care to pay extra for a game they already hold the rights to.

(09-02-2021 04:34 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-01-2021 04:35 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Matching the conference champs is easy. The devil will be in the great middle.

If you look at everyone over the last 4 years not focusing on one year you get 3-4 Tiers:

Top 3:

Clemson, ND, Miami
Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Oregon, USC, Washington

I can't really imagine people want a rematch of the playoff.

Next Tier based on last 4 years:

NC State, Pitt, VT, UVa (UNC not here yet)
Michigan, NW, Iowa, MSU (one more bad year MSU gone)
Washington State, Utah, Stanford, Arizona State

Next Tier - the broadest:

FSU, UNC, BC, WF, Syracuse
Nebraska, Minn, MD, Purdue, Indiana
Cal, Colorado, Arizona, OSU, UCLA,

Bottom:

Louisville, Duke
Illinois, Rutgers

In a matching like this NC State would likely play ASU and MSU because we have played them in the distant past. UNC, Indiana, and Cal make a good match.

ND, USC, and Ohio State ought to work. Clemson, PSU, and Oregon would work as would Miami, Wisconsin, and Washington. I think people would watch.

2nd Tier

NCSU/MSU/ASU, Pitt/Michigan/Stanford, UVa/NW/Utah, VT/WSU/Iowa

Some 3rd Tier

UNC/IND/Cal, FSU/Nebraska/UCLA

If the alliance only gets the first part completed (creating a voting bloc to control the SEC/ESPN) the alliance will have been successful.
Once the scheduling thing gets refined it we'll see how it can be administered. One has to wonder if the ACC will have to play a lot of those alliance games on the road in order to make more money since ESPN might not care to pay extra for a game they already hold the rights to.

That is a worst-case scenario, imo. When sees that ACC teams can actually get home games against Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, etc., I think they will be willing to negotiate for those rights.

(09-02-2021 04:34 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-01-2021 04:35 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Matching the conference champs is easy. The devil will be in the great middle.

If you look at everyone over the last 4 years not focusing on one year you get 3-4 Tiers:

Top 3:

Clemson, ND, Miami
Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Oregon, USC, Washington

I can't really imagine people want a rematch of the playoff.

Next Tier based on last 4 years:

NC State, Pitt, VT, UVa (UNC not here yet)
Michigan, NW, Iowa, MSU (one more bad year MSU gone)
Washington State, Utah, Stanford, Arizona State

Next Tier - the broadest:

FSU, UNC, BC, WF, Syracuse
Nebraska, Minn, MD, Purdue, Indiana
Cal, Colorado, Arizona, OSU, UCLA,

Bottom:

Louisville, Duke
Illinois, Rutgers

In a matching like this NC State would likely play ASU and MSU because we have played them in the distant past. UNC, Indiana, and Cal make a good match.

ND, USC, and Ohio State ought to work. Clemson, PSU, and Oregon would work as would Miami, Wisconsin, and Washington. I think people would watch.

2nd Tier

NCSU/MSU/ASU, Pitt/Michigan/Stanford, UVa/NW/Utah, VT/WSU/Iowa

Some 3rd Tier

UNC/IND/Cal, FSU/Nebraska/UCLA

If the alliance only gets the first part completed (creating a voting bloc to control the SEC/ESPN) the alliance will have been successful.
Once the scheduling thing gets refined it we'll see how it can be administered. One has to wonder if the ACC will have to play a lot of those alliance games on the road in order to make more money since ESPN might not care to pay extra for a game they already hold the rights to.

That crap cost us a shot at the National title in 67 and the Orange Bowl in 72 - money games played on the road at Penn State, Nebraska, and Georgia. Just like playing at Kenan every year but one from 43 to 65.

I can take a neutral site, but just playing at scUM or at PSU, no way.

(09-02-2021 09:32 AM)Statefan Wrote:  

(09-02-2021 04:34 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-01-2021 04:35 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Matching the conference champs is easy. The devil will be in the great middle.

If you look at everyone over the last 4 years not focusing on one year you get 3-4 Tiers:

Top 3:

Clemson, ND, Miami
Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Oregon, USC, Washington

I can't really imagine people want a rematch of the playoff.

Next Tier based on last 4 years:

NC State, Pitt, VT, UVa (UNC not here yet)
Michigan, NW, Iowa, MSU (one more bad year MSU gone)
Washington State, Utah, Stanford, Arizona State

Next Tier - the broadest:

FSU, UNC, BC, WF, Syracuse
Nebraska, Minn, MD, Purdue, Indiana
Cal, Colorado, Arizona, OSU, UCLA,

Bottom:

Louisville, Duke
Illinois, Rutgers

In a matching like this NC State would likely play ASU and MSU because we have played them in the distant past. UNC, Indiana, and Cal make a good match.

ND, USC, and Ohio State ought to work. Clemson, PSU, and Oregon would work as would Miami, Wisconsin, and Washington. I think people would watch.

2nd Tier

NCSU/MSU/ASU, Pitt/Michigan/Stanford, UVa/NW/Utah, VT/WSU/Iowa

Some 3rd Tier

UNC/IND/Cal, FSU/Nebraska/UCLA

If the alliance only gets the first part completed (creating a voting bloc to control the SEC/ESPN) the alliance will have been successful.
Once the scheduling thing gets refined it we'll see how it can be administered. One has to wonder if the ACC will have to play a lot of those alliance games on the road in order to make more money since ESPN might not care to pay extra for a game they already hold the rights to.

That crap cost us a shot at the National title in 67 and the Orange Bowl in 72 - money games played on the road at Penn State, Nebraska, and Georgia. Just like playing at Kenan every year but one from 43 to 65.

I can take a neutral site, but just playing at scUM or at PSU, no way.

In order to maximize TV revenue, I'd say neutral site is the way to go.

(09-02-2021 09:32 AM)Statefan Wrote:  

(09-02-2021 04:34 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-01-2021 04:35 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Matching the conference champs is easy. The devil will be in the great middle.

If you look at everyone over the last 4 years not focusing on one year you get 3-4 Tiers:

Top 3:

Clemson, ND, Miami
Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Oregon, USC, Washington

I can't really imagine people want a rematch of the playoff.

Next Tier based on last 4 years:

NC State, Pitt, VT, UVa (UNC not here yet)
Michigan, NW, Iowa, MSU (one more bad year MSU gone)
Washington State, Utah, Stanford, Arizona State

Next Tier - the broadest:

FSU, UNC, BC, WF, Syracuse
Nebraska, Minn, MD, Purdue, Indiana
Cal, Colorado, Arizona, OSU, UCLA,

Bottom:

Louisville, Duke
Illinois, Rutgers

In a matching like this NC State would likely play ASU and MSU because we have played them in the distant past. UNC, Indiana, and Cal make a good match.

ND, USC, and Ohio State ought to work. Clemson, PSU, and Oregon would work as would Miami, Wisconsin, and Washington. I think people would watch.

2nd Tier

NCSU/MSU/ASU, Pitt/Michigan/Stanford, UVa/NW/Utah, VT/WSU/Iowa

Some 3rd Tier

UNC/IND/Cal, FSU/Nebraska/UCLA

If the alliance only gets the first part completed (creating a voting bloc to control the SEC/ESPN) the alliance will have been successful.
Once the scheduling thing gets refined it we'll see how it can be administered. One has to wonder if the ACC will have to play a lot of those alliance games on the road in order to make more money since ESPN might not care to pay extra for a game they already hold the rights to.

That crap cost us a shot at the National title in 67 and the Orange Bowl in 72 - money games played on the road at Penn State, Nebraska, and Georgia. Just like playing at Kenan every year but one from 43 to 65.

I can take a neutral site, but just playing at scUM or at PSU, no way.

I saw a game at Riddick. Grimsley played Broughton there in 1966 or 67.
It looked like a big roller derby rink and it was creaky. Grimsley's stadium (modeled after Wallace Wade) was much, much nicer.......less splinters.