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Baylor, TCU, TexasTech and probably OKState rumored to the SEC

Quote:The #SEC will expand again to keep up with #B1G, #ACC, #Pac12 possible alliance, and it could be as many as 20 teams with two divisions, allowing #Bama and #Auburn to go to the East.

https://www.frogsowar.com/2021/8/17/2262...to-the-sec

(08-17-2021 11:19 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Baylor, TCU, TexasTech and probably OKState rumored to the SEC

Quote:The #SEC will expand again to keep up with #B1G, #ACC, #Pac12 possible alliance, and it could be as many as 20 teams with two divisions, allowing #Bama and #Auburn to go to the East.

https://www.frogsowar.com/2021/8/17/2262...to-the-sec

The SEC already has the 3 schools that matter the most in those 2 states. Also, with Texas and Oklahoma, Alabama and auburn already can go east if Missouri goes west(where it makes more sense anyways.)

Here is another take on the Big 12 by a Kansas State journalist who feels like Cincinnati and UCF should be brought in by the Big 12.
His assessment of that outcome on the AAC is bleak,

Quote:....then think about a future in the American Athletic Conference where you lose 90% or 95% of your TV revenue. It's that bad.

https://247sports.com/college/kansas-sta...169283520/

(08-17-2021 11:19 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Baylor, TCU, TexasTech and probably OKState rumored to the SEC

Quote:The #SEC will expand again to keep up with #B1G, #ACC, #Pac12 possible alliance, and it could be as many as 20 teams with two divisions, allowing #Bama and #Auburn to go to the East.

https://www.frogsowar.com/2021/8/17/2262...to-the-sec

Riiiiiight.

Pretty amazing that the P5 keeps monkeying with a system that is making them a lot of money. Not sure why you would want to change that. Seems logical that they will eventually come up with system that will fail or go backwards (IE NASCAR)...

(08-19-2021 08:41 AM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Pretty amazing that the P5 keeps monkeying with a system that is making them a lot of money. Not sure why you would want to change that. Seems logical that they will eventually come up with system that will fail or go backwards (IE NASCAR)...

The Path to the National Championship runs through the SEC. Teams like Texas and OK who want to remain relevant in the annual conversation for the National Championship will make this kind of move. Either that or they can end up like Michigan or Penn State who, while good, haven't sniffed the National Championship in years, and in Michigan's case many, many years. The SEC puts Texas and OK in the position to compete for the absolute best recruits and the national championship every year. If you don't think every other power 5 team would do the same things UT and OK did, I feel as if we are fooling ourselves. My personal opinion is that Judy should be being much more proactive about strengthening CUSA's position rather than waiting for the fallout and being stuck with the left overs. Break us into divisions or two separate conferences and add a couple of teams that will make the conference stronger. Do what it takes to get better. And if Judy isn't doing that, god I hope Wood is earning his pay

If the SEC wanted to take over the world, they'd be going after Ohio State and Clemson, not OK State and a bunch of 2nd tier Texas schools.

The Big Ten, Pac-12 and ACC are expected to make a formal announcement about their alignment soon, perhaps as early as next week

https://www.si.com/college/bostoncollege...ement-soon

(08-19-2021 12:21 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  If the SEC wanted to take over the world, they'd be going after Ohio State and Clemson, not OK State and a bunch of 2nd tier Texas schools.

Give 'em time. I wouldn't be surprised if that indeed happens in a few years.

Pac-12 Commissioner Says League Will Make a Decision Whether To Expand in ‘Next Couple of Weeks’

https://pistolsfiringblog.com/report-pac...-of-weeks/

What if we're looking at this wrong? If the G5 ever did a complete reshuffle is a mid atlantic/NE conference something to consider. Think of this:

UMass
Army
Buffalo
Ohio
Navy
Marshall
Temple
ODU
ECU

Could UMass, Buffalo, Ohio, Marshall, Temple, and ODU be strong enough for a 2 bid hoops league? Could a league with Navy, Marshall, Army, Buffalo, ECU, Ohio contend for a NY6 spot? Its not that far fetched.

(08-23-2021 01:41 PM)monarx Wrote:  What if we're looking at this wrong? If the G5 ever did a complete reshuffle is a mid atlantic/NE conference something to consider. Think of this:

UMass
Army
Buffalo
Ohio
Navy
Marshall
Temple
ODU
ECU

Could UMass, Buffalo, Ohio, Marshall, Temple, and ODU be strong enough for a 2 bid hoops league? Could a league with Navy, Marshall, Army, Buffalo, ECU, Ohio contend for a NY6 spot? Its not that far fetched.

Baring a waiver from the NCAA, wouldn't it be many years before that new conference would be eligible for an auto bid to the NCAA Tournament? If so then to get 2 bids they would both have to be at large bids which is probably seldom if ever going to happen under the current methodology for selecting teams.

(08-23-2021 02:00 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-23-2021 01:41 PM)monarx Wrote:  What if we're looking at this wrong? If the G5 ever did a complete reshuffle is a mid atlantic/NE conference something to consider. Think of this:

UMass
Army
Buffalo
Ohio
Navy
Marshall
Temple
ODU
ECU

Could UMass, Buffalo, Ohio, Marshall, Temple, and ODU be strong enough for a 2 bid hoops league? Could a league with Navy, Marshall, Army, Buffalo, ECU, Ohio contend for a NY6 spot? Its not that far fetched.

Baring a waiver from the NCAA, wouldn't it be many years before that new conference would be eligible for an auto bid to the NCAA Tournament? If so then to get 2 bids they would both have to be at large bids which is probably never going to happen under the current methodology for selecting teams.

Yeah, I think the only way the above happens is if the AAC is decimated by the Big XII, and the western teams opt to go to the Mountain West, leaving ECU and Temple to rebuild an eastern conference essentially from scratch.

Quote:Wannstedt said on 670 the Score that several Big 12 schools are already making plans to join other conferences in the future. He said Oklahoma State and Kansas State will join the Pac-12, West Virginia will join the ACC and Kansas and Iowa State will join the Big Ten.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/colleg...nferences/

Makes sense to me. The individual pieces never mattered. Those that control TV payouts were only interested in reducing the five leagues to four. Has nothing to do with the SEC's interests and everything to do with weakening the fifth league by going after their two largest programs. This other announced alliance means nothing except they want to protect each other's ability to qualify for CFP by shortening their schedules and reducing the amount of buy games.

(08-23-2021 02:01 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(08-23-2021 02:00 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(08-23-2021 01:41 PM)monarx Wrote:  What if we're looking at this wrong? If the G5 ever did a complete reshuffle is a mid atlantic/NE conference something to consider. Think of this:

UMass
Army
Buffalo
Ohio
Navy
Marshall
Temple
ODU
ECU

Could UMass, Buffalo, Ohio, Marshall, Temple, and ODU be strong enough for a 2 bid hoops league? Could a league with Navy, Marshall, Army, Buffalo, ECU, Ohio contend for a NY6 spot? Its not that far fetched.

Baring a waiver from the NCAA, wouldn't it be many years before that new conference would be eligible for an auto bid to the NCAA Tournament? If so then to get 2 bids they would both have to be at large bids which is probably never going to happen under the current methodology for selecting teams.

Yeah, I think the only way the above happens is if the AAC is decimated by the Big XII, and the western teams opt to go to the Mountain West, leaving ECU and Temple to rebuild an eastern conference essentially from scratch.

Which is easily the best case scenario for teams like ODU, Marshall, WKU

The Power 5 is over. Everyone needs to get used to the Power 4 (ACC, SEC, Big 10, Pac12). They will ensure that all other conferences get only scraps from their table.

(08-25-2021 09:41 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  The Power 5 is over. Everyone needs to get used to the Power 4 (ACC, SEC, Big 10, Pac12). They will ensure that all other conferences get only scraps from their table.

Agree, looks like Baylor, Texas Tech, and TCU are likely left out. Not enough left to poach from to maintain power status. Maybe they go after Memphis, Cincy, Houston, Boise, Colorado State, BYU, Nevada, UNLV? Would be a good conference capable of producing a competitor here and there, but not a power conference.

I agree, but it really doesnt matter to us. We were never going to be a P5 team anyway. The only way it hurts us is if the money games go away or the P4 teams refuse to play us at all. I really dont even care that much any more. If we can come out of this in a league with Temple and ECU, or back with VCU, UR, GMU, possibly in a division with actual route to a championship and the ability to compete and win against the likes of VCU, GMU, Temple etc in hoops... and have decent professional viewing options I will be happy. Lets just be among the very best at the level at which we are stuck in.

The big losers here are the Big XII of course, and the AAC.

The American had essentially won their P6 argument with the decision to accept 6 conference champions for the CFP.
If the Big 12 poaches, then the AAC could be relegated to the same level as the SBC and CUSA.
If the Big 12 diasappears, then most certainly the Alliance and the SEC will not include the AAC on their playgrounds.