(07-10-2021 08:32 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 06:01 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 06:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

that was 18 years ago

You got to admit that Baghdad Bob was the ultimate team player. He held steadfast to the company line regardless of reality,

Which is why I still think his meme applies today, it was memorable how far he was able to outright lie.

Wasn't he assassinated along with saddam?

(07-10-2021 05:45 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 08:32 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 06:01 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 06:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

that was 18 years ago

You got to admit that Baghdad Bob was the ultimate team player. He held steadfast to the company line regardless of reality,

Which is why I still think his meme applies today, it was memorable how far he was able to outright lie.

Wasn't he assassinated along with saddam?

According to Wikipedia, no. He was last reported (2008) living in the UAE.

(07-10-2021 06:21 PM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 05:45 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 08:32 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  

(07-10-2021 06:01 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 06:00 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

that was 18 years ago

You got to admit that Baghdad Bob was the ultimate team player. He held steadfast to the company line regardless of reality,

Which is why I still think his meme applies today, it was memorable how far he was able to outright lie.

Wasn't he assassinated along with saddam?

According to Wikipedia, no. He was last reported (2008) living in the UAE.

He's kind of like Loki. Bad guy then, fondly remembered now.

Southern Miss lost one of their best defenders to Louisville, but have gotten several players that were too highly rated out of high school to consider a G5 program from the likes of Penn State and WVU. Overall its' been a plus. I think those talented guys that can't get into the line-up at P5s can make a big impact quickly in C-USA and very few of our best players will be stolen away. Oerall, I see it as a plus.

(07-10-2021 05:21 PM)MUther Wrote:  The P5 are going to get our starting seniors that we've invested a lot of time and money in most of the time, which is not ok. Keeps us in a constant state of rebuild every year, losing the graduating class AND losing the best incoming seniors to the portal. We will be perpetually young and inexperienced once they figure out how to most effectively exploit this policy.

This is only true if your coaching staff keeps recruiting like they did before this change. Luckily for Marshall, your coaching staff seems to get that.

If you star player was recruited as a Fr you are more likely to lose that player than if he was a redshirt Fr recruited from the portal. Those coaches that embrace the portal are the ones that plays this game correctly. Well that is if they can spot talent thats going to fit their system.

A Fr. can transfer at any point in his 4 or 5 years without sitting out a year. The player you pick up out of the portal has to sit out a year if he wants to transfer again.

So let's be honest, under the new transfer system, would it make sense to continue the red shirt model?

I say no, coaches are going to have to completely readjust their team building structure.

Why bother burning a scholarship and redshirting a player if they're going to transfer...

If you're only going to get 2 years out of a guy why not get there peak years the junior and senior seasons and grad transfers....

(07-12-2021 09:48 AM)rileylives Wrote:  So let's be honest, under the new transfer system, would it make sense to continue the red shirt model?

I say no, coaches are going to have to completely readjust their team building structure.

Why bother burning a scholarship and redshirting a player if they're going to transfer...

If you're only going to get 2 years out of a guy why not get there peak years the junior and senior seasons and grad transfers....

It going to be a huge problem for those schools that used last year's class to load up on freshmen. You are now carrying a double load of "Fr" that has never played in a game. Most of those players will never get the snaps they want before giving up and trying the portal.

On the other hand you have a small part of the 130 that used the "Covid" class to build up and even up the numbers of their So, Jr and Sr's. Western's classes were lopsided and now they are more balanced. So you dont have 45 Fr and another 20 R-Fr battling it out for the few snaps most of those kids are going to get.

If you are going by the rating system, I ont but I know a lot of fans do. Well you get a higher rated kid out of the portal than you normally will in a Fr class. At this stage on the food chain we are lucky to get 1 or 2 players with a 8.7 to 8.9.

Western picked up 8 or so of those in the portal and a lot of those with 2 to 3 years left to play. I believe Tech used the portal about like Western. At one point Western lead the nation in Portal pickups. That still might be true.

At this point none of us knows which was the correct direction to take. But I believe its going to be those schools that used the portal, the best because those kids for the most part are ready to play because their body has been in the college system. Now they have to sit a year if they go back into the portal. Then they are competing for a spot against a kid that can help a team the upcoming season.

(07-12-2021 10:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 09:48 AM)rileylives Wrote:  So let's be honest, under the new transfer system, would it make sense to continue the red shirt model?

I say no, coaches are going to have to completely readjust their team building structure.

Why bother burning a scholarship and redshirting a player if they're going to transfer...

If you're only going to get 2 years out of a guy why not get there peak years the junior and senior seasons and grad transfers....

It going to be a huge problem for those schools that used last year's class to load up on freshmen. You are now carrying a double load of "Fr" that has never played in a game. Most of those players will never get the snaps they want before giving up and trying the portal.

On the other hand you have a small part of the 130 that used the "Covid" class to build up and even up the numbers of their So, Jr and Sr's. Western's classes were lopsided and now they are more balanced. So you dont have 45 Fr and another 20 R-Fr battling it out for the few snaps most of those kids are going to get.

If you are going by the rating system, I ont but I know a lot of fans do. Well you get a higher rated kid out of the portal than you normally will in a Fr class. At this stage on the food chain we are lucky to get 1 or 2 players with a 8.7 to 8.9.

Western picked up 8 or so of those in the portal and a lot of those with 2 to 3 years left to play. I believe Tech used the portal about like Western. At one point Western lead the nation in Portal pickups. That still might be true.

At this point none of us knows which was the correct direction to take. But I believe its going to be those schools that used the portal, the best because those kids for the most part are ready to play because their body has been in the college system. Now they have to sit a year if they go back into the portal. Then they are competing for a spot against a kid that can help a team the upcoming season.

I agree with your theory about portal players and the fact that if they transfer again they have to sit out a year but the counter to that is the success from these transfers. The vast majority never live up to the hype, most never come close. There is a reason they are transferring to G5. I know playing time is one but that is a small percentage.

(07-12-2021 05:37 PM)Dusky Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 10:22 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 09:48 AM)rileylives Wrote:  So let's be honest, under the new transfer system, would it make sense to continue the red shirt model?

I say no, coaches are going to have to completely readjust their team building structure.

Why bother burning a scholarship and redshirting a player if they're going to transfer...

If you're only going to get 2 years out of a guy why not get there peak years the junior and senior seasons and grad transfers....

It going to be a huge problem for those schools that used last year's class to load up on freshmen. You are now carrying a double load of "Fr" that has never played in a game. Most of those players will never get the snaps they want before giving up and trying the portal.

On the other hand you have a small part of the 130 that used the "Covid" class to build up and even up the numbers of their So, Jr and Sr's. Western's classes were lopsided and now they are more balanced. So you dont have 45 Fr and another 20 R-Fr battling it out for the few snaps most of those kids are going to get.

If you are going by the rating system, I ont but I know a lot of fans do. Well you get a higher rated kid out of the portal than you normally will in a Fr class. At this stage on the food chain we are lucky to get 1 or 2 players with a 8.7 to 8.9.

Western picked up 8 or so of those in the portal and a lot of those with 2 to 3 years left to play. I believe Tech used the portal about like Western. At one point Western lead the nation in Portal pickups. That still might be true.

At this point none of us knows which was the correct direction to take. But I believe its going to be those schools that used the portal, the best because those kids for the most part are ready to play because their body has been in the college system. Now they have to sit a year if they go back into the portal. Then they are competing for a spot against a kid that can help a team the upcoming season.

I agree with your theory about portal players and the fact that if they transfer again they have to sit out a year but the counter to that is the success from these transfers. The vast majority never live up to the hype, most never come close. There is a reason they are transferring to G5. I know playing time is one but that is a small percentage.

Yeah we are so new into this transfer without sitting out and the portal to tell which way is going to be best for recruiting. But now we wont just be getting mainly Sr's and GTs a lot of under classmen will not still around till their Jr year waiting for snaps.

I think it gives bad teams a chance to get better quick. Going to be interesting to see how many star G5 players use the portal. If its a lot then I think coaches are going to try and build from the portal. Its a real disadvantage if you already transferred. With so many players going into the portal each year coaches might not want to use the scholarship on a player that has to sit out.

Be a few years before we really know which way is best

(07-12-2021 09:48 AM)rileylives Wrote:  So let's be honest, under the new transfer system, would it make sense to continue the red shirt model?

I say no, coaches are going to have to completely readjust their team building structure.

Why bother burning a scholarship and redshirting a player if they're going to transfer...

If you're only going to get 2 years out of a guy why not get there peak years the junior and senior seasons and grad transfers....

That’s kinda been my thinking for a couple of years, but especially now. But on the other hand, if they’re not ready to play, a coach can’t put them out there… redshirt or no redshirt.

(07-12-2021 09:48 AM)rileylives Wrote:  So let's be honest, under the new transfer system, would it make sense to continue the red shirt model?

I say no, coaches are going to have to completely readjust their team building structure.

Why bother burning a scholarship and redshirting a player if they're going to transfer...

If you're only going to get 2 years out of a guy why not get there peak years the junior and senior seasons and grad transfers....

Spavital of Texas State has been heavily criticized by nearly everyone about the Bobcats' lack of HS recruiting and how they seem to be focusing so heavily on the transfer market. Maybe he's doing it right though? Guess we'll have to wait another year or two to see because they went 5-19 in his first two seasons there, which was basically no improvement over their previous coach. Or maybe the transfers they're getting are just duds.

(07-09-2021 07:33 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 07:23 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  (1) Charlotte - 93 points
(2) Middle Tennessee - 83
(3) Rice - 77 1/2
(4) North Texas - 61
(5) UAB - 51
(6) Old Dominion - 49 1/2
(7) Western Kentucky - 49
(8) UTSA - 47
(9) Florida Atlantic - 47
(10) Marshall - 38 1/2
(11) Southern Miss - 37 1/2
(12) Florida International - 27 1/2
(13) UTEP - 27
(14) Louisiana Tech - 25

clt says boom, roasted.

Yes, let's use women's and Olympic sports as our metric. Sounds about as realistic as a CNN news report

With the Real Olympics coming up, oatm asks if American Football is such a big deal, why isn’t it in the Olympics?

BOOM!

oATM checks forecast for your town on day Feisty Night Birds of American Football fly in:

Sept 4 Fayetteville partly cloudy
Sept 18 Austin drizzle
Oct 16 San Antonio 72 degrees and fluorescent
Oct 23 Birmingham stormy and raining Rice touchdowns
Nov 6 Charlotte Hurricane force Owl Wing Winds
Nov 20 El Paso 100 degrees Hot Rice (always tender, but not sticky)

WKU still getting transfers in. OL from La Monroe and Ohio and WR from EKU..

(07-09-2021 07:23 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  (1) Charlotte - 93 points
(2) Middle Tennessee - 83
(3) Rice - 77 1/2
(4) North Texas - 61
(5) UAB - 51
(6) Old Dominion - 49 1/2
(7) Western Kentucky - 49
(8) UTSA - 47
(9) Florida Atlantic - 47
(10) Marshall - 38 1/2
(11) Southern Miss - 37 1/2
(12) Florida International - 27 1/2
(13) UTEP - 27
(14) Louisiana Tech - 25

clt says boom, roasted.

clt ... what's your source for the points list above?

Here are final 2020-21 scores for CUSA schools in the NACDA Director's Cup:



The leaders:

1 - Rice - 198.0
2 - Charlotte - 156.5
3 - WKU - 126.5
4 - Marshall - 125.0
T5 - ODU/LaTech - 100.0

Who is the WR from EKU please? Thanks in advance.

clt says Charlotte is taking advantage of student athletes wanting to return back to the Charlotte region after making a mistake to go elsewhere