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RE: Is marijuana a performance enhancing drug?
(07-03-2021 09:40 AM)colohank Wrote:  Rules are rules whether you agree with them or not. If they're unjust or scientifically invalid, then make the case to change them. But until then, obey them.

Richardson should have known better.

This is my stance. If it mattered that much to you one shouldn't jeopardize their opportunity. Especially when its the Olympics.
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(07-03-2021 08:36 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 03:51 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Ever see Wolf of Wall Street when Wolfie and Diamond Donnie do the old ludes? They don’t feel them, think they are duds and then pop a few more. Edibles are a lot like that. They sneak up on you.

The saying goes "The edibles don't start working until they hear you talking ****."



Quote:BTW stay away from CBD, that stuff is useless. If someone is telling you they get relief from CBD products, they are most likely experiencing a placebo effect.


You know that regular old marijuana has CBD in it and that's where a lot of the medicinal effects come from? The cannabis strain Charlotte's Web is a very high CBD, has almost no THC, and is the strain that helps prevent epileptic seizures in kids.

Correct! My wife has suffered from psoriatic arthritis and CBD has helped her joint pain significantly without having to go to serious pharmaceuticals with numerous potential harmful side effects. But then she never had used any cannabis of any kind prior so perhaps tolerance is a problem for those who have.

I only know how much it has helped her to continue sewing and working with her hands. So I'd say it has been tremendously positive for her.
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Hope she doesn't get to run the relay. She may know how to pass, but that isn't the same as a hand off.
07-04-2021 01:44 AM
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Ban on cannabis may or may not be a silly rule - but it is a rule. If there was a rule saying you can’t race with red shoes and someone wore red shoes, then punishment should follow. To break a rule and complain about it after someone gets in trouble is not the right time to make that fight.
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The only performance enhancing ability one gains from any form of marijuana is the munchies. You will have the super capabilities to eat an entire bag of chips in record time, and your cravings become super overpowering that just the thought of some foods will make you look and sound ridiculous when you can not find them. The look and sounds is when you start substituting for disgusting foods that normally you wouldn’t eat. Other than that it will put you in a super slow mode that makes you think your going 100 miles an hour, oh and it will enhance your laughter and ability to cry on a dime. Other than that nothing sport related what so ever.
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I haven't smoked weed in a while and reading this thread is tempting me to do so soon.

On a serious note, I feel bad for the lady. The rule seems outdated.
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(07-03-2021 03:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Correct! My wife has suffered from psoriatic arthritis and CBD has helped her joint pain significantly without having to go to serious pharmaceuticals with numerous potential harmful side effects. But then she never had used any cannabis of any kind prior so perhaps tolerance is a problem for those who have.

I only know how much it has helped her to continue sewing and working with her hands. So I'd say it has been tremendously positive for her.

Wow… It’s nice to hear of that stuff is helping someone.

I have fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, gout and Lupus. I tried CBD multiple times without success. I tried the oil and the gummies. Each time I told the clerk at the place I bought them, it was always “you need to take more”.

My primary care doc tried Meloxicam, Mobic, Celebrex, among others. My RA doc once prescribed 100 Prednisone a month. Finally an ER doc gave me Tramadol for an injury and it helped my pain. I told my primary care doc and he prescribed Hydrocodone…. 4 per day. This process took 5 years, from 2013 - 2018.

When I retired my neurologist suggested I try cannabis. It has been a God send. Since the Republican controlled state legislature chooses to keep medical marijuana illegal here in Kentucky (Bourbon lobby is against it), I have joined a growers network with members throughout Kentucky and West Virginia. We trade seeds and smoke.

Our members have MS, RA, Neuropathy, Cancer. We are much like the Dallas Buyers Club. Since many of us no longer work, everything is free.

We have legislation going through Frankfort now looking to legalize medical. Unfortunately when government gets involved, money gets involved. We plan on continuing to help each other.
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(07-04-2021 11:29 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 03:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Correct! My wife has suffered from psoriatic arthritis and CBD has helped her joint pain significantly without having to go to serious pharmaceuticals with numerous potential harmful side effects. But then she never had used any cannabis of any kind prior so perhaps tolerance is a problem for those who have.

I only know how much it has helped her to continue sewing and working with her hands. So I'd say it has been tremendously positive for her.

Wow… It’s nice to hear of that stuff is helping someone.

I have fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, gout and Lupus. I tried CBD multiple times without success. I tried the oil and the gummies. Each time I told the clerk at the place I bought them, it was always “you need to take more”.

My primary care doc tried Meloxicam, Mobic, Celebrex, among others. My RA doc once prescribed 100 Prednisone a month. Finally an ER doc gave me Tramadol for an injury and it helped my pain. I told my primary care doc and he prescribed Hydrocodone…. 4 per day. This process took 5 years, from 2013 - 2018.

When I retired my neurologist suggested I try cannabis. It has been a God send. Since the Republican controlled state legislature chooses to keep medical marijuana illegal here in Kentucky (Bourbon lobby is against it), I have joined a growers network with members throughout Kentucky and West Virginia. We trade seeds and smoke.

Our members have MS, RA, Neuropathy, Cancer. We are much like the Dallas Buyers Club. Since many of us no longer work, everything is free.

We have legislation going through Frankfort now looking to legalize medical. Unfortunately when government gets involved, money gets involved. We plan on continuing to help each other.

Brand and process is important with CBD and oil seems to be the better delivery system. We get hers through a pharmacy. As with all things new, quality control varied too widely. It was recommended to her by a friend with RA who is a 2 time survivor of breast cancer and had already tried most of the brands. Enbrel was all the Doc was recommending and in 20 years of non profit work I had spent a great deal of time with patients suffering from Autoimmune diseases and understood how such drugs can relieve the pain but also impair the immune systems defense of the body against other significant diseases. I see such drugs as essential, but also as a trade off between quality of life and quantity of life. My wife's PA was only in its early stages and CBD relieves enough of her symptoms so as to buy her more of both. As long as that is the case we are both content. She started on 750 mg with a dose of 1 mil a day. She hasn't needed to up it and has been doing that for almost 2 years.
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Anytime I use and try to work out even the next day it can be tough to stay focused and I feel a tad slower. Does help with pain though.
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She is now completely OUT of the Olympics...will not be on the relay team.
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Yeah really stupid decision by the USA Track Federation (because the 1-month suspension would have ended before the relays began).

Ah what's an Olympics without lots of political drama behind the scenes?
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(07-04-2021 11:29 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 03:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Correct! My wife has suffered from psoriatic arthritis and CBD has helped her joint pain significantly without having to go to serious pharmaceuticals with numerous potential harmful side effects. But then she never had used any cannabis of any kind prior so perhaps tolerance is a problem for those who have.

I only know how much it has helped her to continue sewing and working with her hands. So I'd say it has been tremendously positive for her.

Wow… It’s nice to hear of that stuff is helping someone.

I have fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, gout and Lupus. I tried CBD multiple times without success. I tried the oil and the gummies. Each time I told the clerk at the place I bought them, it was always “you need to take more”.

My primary care doc tried Meloxicam, Mobic, Celebrex, among others. My RA doc once prescribed 100 Prednisone a month. Finally an ER doc gave me Tramadol for an injury and it helped my pain. I told my primary care doc and he prescribed Hydrocodone…. 4 per day. This process took 5 years, from 2013 - 2018.

When I retired my neurologist suggested I try cannabis. It has been a God send. Since the Republican controlled state legislature chooses to keep medical marijuana illegal here in Kentucky (Bourbon lobby is against it), I have joined a growers network with members throughout Kentucky and West Virginia. We trade seeds and smoke.

Our members have MS, RA, Neuropathy, Cancer. We are much like the Dallas Buyers Club. Since many of us no longer work, everything is free.

We have legislation going through Frankfort now looking to legalize medical. Unfortunately when government gets involved, money gets involved. We plan on continuing to help each other.

As a cancer survivor, I can relate. Glad you've found something that helps. Prayers!
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(07-04-2021 11:29 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(07-03-2021 03:48 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Correct! My wife has suffered from psoriatic arthritis and CBD has helped her joint pain significantly without having to go to serious pharmaceuticals with numerous potential harmful side effects. But then she never had used any cannabis of any kind prior so perhaps tolerance is a problem for those who have.

I only know how much it has helped her to continue sewing and working with her hands. So I'd say it has been tremendously positive for her.

Wow… It’s nice to hear of that stuff is helping someone.

I have fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, gout and Lupus. I tried CBD multiple times without success. I tried the oil and the gummies. Each time I told the clerk at the place I bought them, it was always “you need to take more”.

My primary care doc tried Meloxicam, Mobic, Celebrex, among others. My RA doc once prescribed 100 Prednisone a month. Finally an ER doc gave me Tramadol for an injury and it helped my pain. I told my primary care doc and he prescribed Hydrocodone…. 4 per day. This process took 5 years, from 2013 - 2018.

When I retired my neurologist suggested I try cannabis. It has been a God send. Since the Republican controlled state legislature chooses to keep medical marijuana illegal here in Kentucky (Bourbon lobby is against it), I have joined a growers network with members throughout Kentucky and West Virginia. We trade seeds and smoke.

Our members have MS, RA, Neuropathy, Cancer. We are much like the Dallas Buyers Club. Since many of us no longer work, everything is free.

We have legislation going through Frankfort now looking to legalize medical. Unfortunately when government gets involved, money gets involved. We plan on continuing to help each other.

It really is ridiculous that it continues to be illegal. I know why, but it's just frustrating. Fortunately, things are moving forward, I believe 18 states plus DC now have some form of recreational marijuana laws with more on the way and many more have medical.
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