(06-26-2021 08:05 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  NC state being forced to forfeit college World Series bc of contact f’n tracing and now Vanderbilt gets to save arms out of the losers bracket while MSU and Texas play another game. So are we sure nobody wants to clarify the terms of these forfeits? 4 of the players for NC Stare that tested positive were fully vaccinated...cough cough what was that some of you were saying?

NC State played the game, they didn’t forfeit. Vandy was in the lose and go home situation, not NC State. NC State and Vandy play again today. NC State was given the option to forfeit, they decided to play with what they had, and it was a good game. They were not forced to forfeit.

Why does it say “no-contest” for NC State and Vanderbilt when I look at the games scheduled for today on the NCAA site?

(06-26-2021 08:05 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  NC state being forced to forfeit college World Series bc of contact f’n tracing and now Vanderbilt gets to save arms out of the losers bracket while MSU and Texas play another game. So are we sure nobody wants to clarify the terms of these forfeits? 4 of the players for NC Stare that tested positive were fully vaccinated...cough cough what was that some of you were saying?

NC State played the game, they didn’t forfeit. Vandy was in the lose and go home situation, not NC State. NC State and Vandy play again today. NC State was given the option to forfeit, they decided to play with what they had, and it was a good game. They were not forced to forfeit.

They were forced to forfeit today’s game by the ncaa. Even dumber is they were allowed to play yesterday but now have to forfeit today’s game.

(06-26-2021 08:04 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  NC state being forced to forfeit college World Series bc of contact f’n tracing and now Vanderbilt gets to save arms out of the losers bracket while MSU and Texas play another game. So are we sure nobody wants to clarify the terms of these forfeits? 4 of the players for NC Stare that tested positive were fully vaccinated...cough cough what was that some of you were saying?

So 4 players that tested positive were fully vaccinated and they couldn’t play? What’s the point then?

How does this solve anything? Can you imagine how pissed you would be if you took the shot, tested positive, and were told you couldn’t play in the CWS? WTF!

Sounds like the NCAA wants their darlings in the finals. Such bull****!

On top of that Vandy now gets 2 days to rest pitchers and only had to play 3 games like they never lost. Instead of having to throw leiter today they can start him game 1of finals...complete bull****

The issue wasn’t the four who were vaccinated…. Cough…. Cough… If that’s accurate. The issue was those who weren’t. NC State would’ve been just fine without four guys. Their larger issue was completely preventable.



Perfect example of what we’ve been talking about. Literally a small microcosm of society, failure to do what’s best for the whole. Even worse when, unlike in general life where there’s limitless ideologies and belief structures going on, you have a small group all dedicated the largest portion of their lives to a common goal.



The full NC St deal was that in most sports’ 2020/21 post-seasons, the NCAA was also not counting amongst contact tracing protocols, those who had tested positive/had Corona within the last 90 days. The idea being that they bore antibodies/wouldn’t get sick again within that window.

NC State battled several instances of the virus during the regular season, the biggest was theie mid-March Duke series cancellation, followed immediately by the cancellation of a midweek game with us (3/16). The 90 day “safe window” expired for all those guys last week.

So, now, all those guys go back to the pitfalls of contact tracing. And boom. They all had the past two months to get vaxed. Or at least decide to do so once they knew they were post-season bound.



Make your personal decision, fine. But be ready for consequences, especially if it impacts others. Kids shoulda opted out if they didn’t wanna do it. Selfish. And it’s not NC State haterism…. Same exact thing has happened to four team/schools total this year for various NCAA Championships.

Same thing is gonna happen next year to football teams, via eating forfeits, since testing is going to be just as enforced from the sounds of it. Cannot believe these kids weren’t first in line. Way too many playing roulette with their season next year, especially with the new, more contagious strain rising here. Are they at health risk? We won’t debate it here, I’ll even concede for now and say… Probably not much. But team/availability to play risk? Absolutely.

Lie in your own bed.

(06-26-2021 09:30 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  The issue wasn’t the four who were vaccinated…. Cough…. Cough… If that’s accurate. The issue was those who weren’t. NC State would’ve been just fine without four guys. Their larger issue was completely preventable.



Perfect example of what we’ve been talking about. Literally a small microcosm of society, failure to do what’s best for the whole. Even worse when, unlike in general life where there’s limitless ideologies and belief structures going on, you have a small group all dedicated the largest portion of their lives to a common goal.



The full NC St deal was that in most sports’ 2020/21 post-seasons, the NCAA was also not counting amongst contact tracing protocols, those who had tested positive/had Corona within the last 90 days. The idea being that they bore antibodies/wouldn’t get sick again within that window.

NC State battled several instances of the virus during the regular season, the biggest was theie mid-March Duke series cancellation, followed immediately by the cancellation of a midweek game with us (3/16). The 90 day “safe window” expired for all those guys last week.

So, now, all those guys go back to the pitfalls of contact tracing. And boom. They all had the past two months to get vaxed. Or at least decide to do so once they knew they were post-season bound.



Make your personal decision, fine. But be ready for consequences, especially if it impacts others. Kids shoulda opted out if they didn’t wanna do it. Selfish. And it’s not NC State haterism…. Same exact thing has happened to four team/schools total this year for various NCAA Championships.

Same thing is gonna happen next year to football teams, via eating forfeits, since testing is going to be just as enforced from the sounds of it. Cannot believe these kids weren’t first in line. Way too many playing roulette with their season next year, especially with the new, more contagious strain rising here. Are they at health risk? We won’t debate it here, I’ll even concede for now and say… Probably not much. But team/availability to play risk? Absolutely.

Lie in your own bed.

No sir, the other teams didn’t have to test bc they are “vaccinated” the vandy coach insisted they test the entire nc state team including vaccinated players and 4 of the vaccinated players tested positive. So why are they not testing MSU, Texas and Vandy’s vaccinated players? If 4 guys on one f’n team tested positive after “vaccination” the whole nc state team could buy a ticket right now and go sit in the stands but they can’t play in it?

Ok, have confirmed. It all began with two unvaxed guys testing positive, threw the rest of the unvaxed into protocol (who again had all the time they needed to get vaxed). Then, after initial considerations got them down to the 13 players for game 2, the vaxed players were tested as well. (You say Vandy demanded, I’ve read NC State honchos were responsible, fearing school liability. Doubt we will ever know which was ultimately responsible.) Four vaxed players tested positive, while asymptomatic. Boom, down to 9, game over.

In the end, doesn’t really matter. A) The four vaxed guys who were positive, the vax did what it’s supposed, protects huge % of population fully, greatly mitigates symptoms in those who still get it. I.e. it worked. B) Had the team as a whole got vaxed, guess what? NO ONE on NC State would have been tested to start with.

Honestly, I’m not sure why the NCAA even let this play out. They threw out UM Hockey on one positive test, because too many unvaxed guys would’ve needed multiple negative test and they were on the eve of the tourney. How does NC State even get to play game 2 with 13/27 scholly players? Shoulda been canned right there and then.

Point is, it was their group decision/inaction that they are crying over…. But like many others they just wanna blame the system.

Here’s your clarification… Nothing to do with the Vandy coach, period.

https://twitter.com/aaronfitt/status/140...6964501506

https://twitter.com/aaronfitt/status/140...0257926145


If you don’t like Twitter…. In NCAA Championship play, positive tests (which started with 2 unvaxed players) automatically trigger testing of all individuals, both vaxed and unvaxed. And such policies were laid out WELL IN ADVANCE:

http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-instit...y-overview


NC State knew the deal, failed themselves. No one else to blame. Your choice, their choice. Lie in your own bed.

(06-26-2021 09:56 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  Ok, have confirmed. It all began with two unvaxed guys testing positive, threw the rest of the unvaxed into protocol (who again had all the time they needed to get vaxed). Then, after initial considerations got them down to the 13 players for game 2, the vaxed players were tested as well. (You say Vandy demanded, I’ve read NC State honchos were responsible, fearing school liability. Doubt we will ever know which was ultimately responsible.) Four vaxed players tested positive, while asymptomatic. Boom, down to 9, game over.

In the end, doesn’t really matter. A) The four vaxed guys who were positive, the vax did what it’s supposed, protects huge % of population fully, greatly mitigates symptoms in those who still get it. I.e. it worked. B) Had the team as a whole got vaxed, guess what? NO ONE on NC State would have been tested to start with.

Honestly, I’m not sure why the NCAA even let this play out. They threw out UM Hockey on one positive test, because too many unvaxed guys would’ve needed multiple negative test and they were on the eve of the tourney. How does NC State even get to play game 2 with 13/27 scholly players? Shoulda been canned right there and then.

Point is, it was their group decision/inaction that they are crying over…. But like many others they just wanna blame the system.

If the whole team got vaccinated they still would have been playing with COVID but I guess if you just don’t know about it it’s ok right? Great system

(06-26-2021 08:22 AM)Cajunjudo Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 08:05 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  NC state being forced to forfeit college World Series bc of contact f’n tracing and now Vanderbilt gets to save arms out of the losers bracket while MSU and Texas play another game. So are we sure nobody wants to clarify the terms of these forfeits? 4 of the players for NC Stare that tested positive were fully vaccinated...cough cough what was that some of you were saying?

NC State played the game, they didn’t forfeit. Vandy was in the lose and go home situation, not NC State. NC State and Vandy play again today. NC State was given the option to forfeit, they decided to play with what they had, and it was a good game. They were not forced to forfeit.

Why does it say “no-contest” for NC State and Vanderbilt when I look at the games scheduled for today on the NCAA site?

Sorry, didn’t realize you were talking about game two. Didn’t know they had forfeited it. I was talking about yesterday’s game. My bad!!!

Here's something you may or may not find interesting:

I am fully vaccinated. Got my second shot 3/4/21. Prior to the vaccination I probably was tested 60-70 times because of my proximity to student-athletes. Tested negative each time.

I set up a Hawai'i vacation in late April with travel scheduled for mid-June. The State of Hawai'i (that gets so much $$ from tourism) requires that travelers must show results of a negative COVID test within 72 hours of departure. (Then you jump through hoops uploading to their gov't website, having your documentation doublechecked before your final flight to the islands and even then, showing proof once you land). We were scheduled to leave on a Wednesday so my family of four went on a Monday to get tested. Hawai'i will accept a rapid test, but not an antigen test.

Guess who tested positive? This guy.

But I didn't believe the results. I scheduled a second test the following day and, a mere 20 hours before scheduled departure, got the results.

Negative.

I DO beiieve it's possible that a vaccinated person can legitimately test positive. But I also believe that there are MANY false positive tests (and I'm a walking example.)

I'm just thinking out loud....I wonder if any of the vaccinated NC State players who tested positive were false positive. I guess we'll never know.

And, Kauai is the most beautiful piece of God's earth I've ever seen. But the jet lag is kicking my ass.

(06-25-2021 12:43 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 09:25 PM)Just Louisiana Wrote:  I took the shot it was my choice. I don't feel like anyone should be forced to take the shot and I don't feel like the SBC is forcing anyone to take it. But after getting egg on their face from not having a championship game I think they need this rule. So teams don't have to take the shot but you will forfeit if you can't play or choose not play.

If a team chooses to not play yes...can’t play? Says who? Who decides a team can’t play? I’m not sure I’m cool with somebody else deciding a team can’t play and hand them a forfeit.

Lets be clear, I don't think the Sun Belt is going to tell a team, you can't play this week. What the Sun Belt is telling them is that if we have a situation in which a team gets Covid and decides not to play rather than play down a bunch of players, than they forefit the game.

Essentially, its a cover for what happened to you guys and Coastal this year. With widely available vaccines and the NCAA not testing fully vaccinated players, if a team gets an outbreak, its because of a choice they made to not get players vaccinated, not because of an unavoidable circumstance.

(06-26-2021 10:08 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 09:56 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  Ok, have confirmed. It all began with two unvaxed guys testing positive, threw the rest of the unvaxed into protocol (who again had all the time they needed to get vaxed). Then, after initial considerations got them down to the 13 players for game 2, the vaxed players were tested as well. (You say Vandy demanded, I’ve read NC State honchos were responsible, fearing school liability. Doubt we will ever know which was ultimately responsible.) Four vaxed players tested positive, while asymptomatic. Boom, down to 9, game over.

In the end, doesn’t really matter. A) The four vaxed guys who were positive, the vax did what it’s supposed, protects huge % of population fully, greatly mitigates symptoms in those who still get it. I.e. it worked. B) Had the team as a whole got vaxed, guess what? NO ONE on NC State would have been tested to start with.

Honestly, I’m not sure why the NCAA even let this play out. They threw out UM Hockey on one positive test, because too many unvaxed guys would’ve needed multiple negative test and they were on the eve of the tourney. How does NC State even get to play game 2 with 13/27 scholly players? Shoulda been canned right there and then.

Point is, it was their group decision/inaction that they are crying over…. But like many others they just wanna blame the system.

If the whole team got vaccinated they still would have been playing with COVID but I guess if you just don’t know about it it’s ok right? Great system

Hey, you wanna debate the merits of EVERYONE being vaccinated still allowing for a small percentage of people being able to contract (“behind the scenes”) a very weakened version, likely enough so to stay alive/out of the hospital…. And yell about about us “having a great system”…. Fine.

The whole damn country should be so lucky.

Your distracting from the real point now. Which is, there was a system in place, everyone knew it, and the team crying foul chose a different path. Too bad.




If vaccines were available, COVID wasn’t running as rampant, and there were clear republished guidelines of consequences, back in the fall… and CCU football players made the same choice… I’d personally hand you the other half of the damn trophy, steal it right outta our case, and tell our team to go pound sand.

It’s choice now. And after three such examples already, NC State should have known damn better. For the good of the team. But then their coach doesn’t “indoctrinate” his player with opinions… like good social responsibility.

Better make sure your teams are “ready” boys. There’s no excuses anymore.

(06-26-2021 01:29 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 10:08 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 09:56 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  Ok, have confirmed. It all began with two unvaxed guys testing positive, threw the rest of the unvaxed into protocol (who again had all the time they needed to get vaxed). Then, after initial considerations got them down to the 13 players for game 2, the vaxed players were tested as well. (You say Vandy demanded, I’ve read NC State honchos were responsible, fearing school liability. Doubt we will ever know which was ultimately responsible.) Four vaxed players tested positive, while asymptomatic. Boom, down to 9, game over.

In the end, doesn’t really matter. A) The four vaxed guys who were positive, the vax did what it’s supposed, protects huge % of population fully, greatly mitigates symptoms in those who still get it. I.e. it worked. B) Had the team as a whole got vaxed, guess what? NO ONE on NC State would have been tested to start with.

Honestly, I’m not sure why the NCAA even let this play out. They threw out UM Hockey on one positive test, because too many unvaxed guys would’ve needed multiple negative test and they were on the eve of the tourney. How does NC State even get to play game 2 with 13/27 scholly players? Shoulda been canned right there and then.

Point is, it was their group decision/inaction that they are crying over…. But like many others they just wanna blame the system.

If the whole team got vaccinated they still would have been playing with COVID but I guess if you just don’t know about it it’s ok right? Great system

Hey, you wanna debate the merits of EVERYONE being vaccinated still allowing for a small percentage of people being able to contract (“behind the scenes”) a very weakened version, likely enough so to stay alive/out of the hospital…. And yell about about us “having a great system”…. Fine.

The whole damn country should be so lucky.

Your distracting from the real point now. Which is, there was a system in place, everyone knew it, and the team crying foul chose a different path. Too bad.




If vaccines were available, COVID wasn’t running as rampant, and there were clear republished guidelines of consequences, back in the fall… and CCU football players made the same choice… I’d personally hand you the other half of the damn trophy, steal it right outta our case, and tell our team to go pound sand.

It’s choice now. And after three such examples already, NC State should have known damn better. For the good of the team. But then their coach doesn’t “indoctrinate” his player with opinions… like good social responsibility.

Better make sure your teams are “ready” boys. There’s no excuses anymore.

Lmao, no excuses? Coming from a coastal carotwat fan is real f’n rich...”have your boys ready to play” tell that to your chicken sht f’n football coach

Wonder how today would have been handled if NC State would have won yesterday?.?.....

(06-25-2021 12:43 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-24-2021 09:25 PM)Just Louisiana Wrote:  I took the shot it was my choice. I don't feel like anyone should be forced to take the shot and I don't feel like the SBC is forcing anyone to take it. But after getting egg on their face from not having a championship game I think they need this rule. So teams don't have to take the shot but you will forfeit if you can't play or choose not play.

If a team chooses to not play yes...can’t play? Says who? Who decides a team can’t play? I’m not sure I’m cool with somebody else deciding a team can’t play and hand them a forfeit.

I suggest teams do like the military cross train people in other positions or forfeit. The SBC decided Covid Carolina couldn't play in the championship game I think either both teams should have decided on an alternate date or CC should have forfeited the game. I feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot. OC games who cares they don't really mean anything to who will be the SBC champions.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/sports...357092001/


And it’s going to get dumber as the year goes on because, at least anecdotally, there are still a lot of football teams both at the college and NFL levels struggling to get most of their players vaccinated. In fact, according to some college administrators I’ve spoken with, there are a significant number of teams haven’t even hit 50% — which means they’re entering the season with a competitive disadvantage.

The biggest takeaway from the College World Series should be that NC State isn’t a fluke event. It’s the canary in the coal mine for what we’re likely to see this fall as football teams with low vaccination rates see positive tests pop up, sidelining unvaccinated and perhaps some vaccinated players who did the responsible thing and still got unlucky.

(06-26-2021 01:32 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:29 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 10:08 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 09:56 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  Ok, have confirmed. It all began with two unvaxed guys testing positive, threw the rest of the unvaxed into protocol (who again had all the time they needed to get vaxed). Then, after initial considerations got them down to the 13 players for game 2, the vaxed players were tested as well. (You say Vandy demanded, I’ve read NC State honchos were responsible, fearing school liability. Doubt we will ever know which was ultimately responsible.) Four vaxed players tested positive, while asymptomatic. Boom, down to 9, game over.

In the end, doesn’t really matter. A) The four vaxed guys who were positive, the vax did what it’s supposed, protects huge % of population fully, greatly mitigates symptoms in those who still get it. I.e. it worked. B) Had the team as a whole got vaxed, guess what? NO ONE on NC State would have been tested to start with.

Honestly, I’m not sure why the NCAA even let this play out. They threw out UM Hockey on one positive test, because too many unvaxed guys would’ve needed multiple negative test and they were on the eve of the tourney. How does NC State even get to play game 2 with 13/27 scholly players? Shoulda been canned right there and then.

Point is, it was their group decision/inaction that they are crying over…. But like many others they just wanna blame the system.

If the whole team got vaccinated they still would have been playing with COVID but I guess if you just don’t know about it it’s ok right? Great system

Hey, you wanna debate the merits of EVERYONE being vaccinated still allowing for a small percentage of people being able to contract (“behind the scenes”) a very weakened version, likely enough so to stay alive/out of the hospital…. And yell about about us “having a great system”…. Fine.

The whole damn country should be so lucky.

Your distracting from the real point now. Which is, there was a system in place, everyone knew it, and the team crying foul chose a different path. Too bad.




If vaccines were available, COVID wasn’t running as rampant, and there were clear republished guidelines of consequences, back in the fall… and CCU football players made the same choice… I’d personally hand you the other half of the damn trophy, steal it right outta our case, and tell our team to go pound sand.

It’s choice now. And after three such examples already, NC State should have known damn better. For the good of the team. But then their coach doesn’t “indoctrinate” his player with opinions… like good social responsibility.

Better make sure your teams are “ready” boys. There’s no excuses anymore.

Lmao, no excuses? Coming from a coastal carotwat fan is real f’n rich...”have your boys ready to play” tell that to your chicken sht f’n football coach

Nice fifth grade reply.

Yes, the conference that MADE us “play at all costs” a meaningless Troy game the week prior, handing us unbalanced prep weeks, and costing us our starting LT…. That conference, suddenly “let” our coach ask nicely and get a bye…. because we weren’t ready or were afraid.

Nice tin foil hat ya got there.

(And JustLouisiana…. would’ve loved a makeup date. Too sad it didn’t happen. Blame the conference timing. Could canned our Troy game and moved the CG up a week, might have avoided the mess, or given us a week to negative test where we needed to.)



This year, rules are out in front, not being made up by THE CONFERENCE ON THE FLY. Is what it is. Might affect Coastal too, we certainly aren’t at 100% vaxed. Not close. It’s a huge mistake, and if it’s us who has issues, shame on us.

But yes, no excuses this year for anyone. Isn’t that hard to grasp.

(06-26-2021 01:57 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Wonder how today would have been handled if NC State would have won yesterday?.?.....

Umm, the same. Every other day testing is going on regardless of when you’re playing. Test would’ve still occured. Protocols would’ve still kicked in. Only way around would've been to delay the Finals by several days. Doubt that would’ve happened.

(06-25-2021 06:10 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  The irony when ULL forfeits to CCU is going to be amazing this year.

We wouldn’t wait till CCU had arrived in Lafayette and tucked in their hotel beds. We also wouldn’t hold position meetings in such a careless manner.

(06-26-2021 04:13 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:32 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:29 PM)MOTIAW Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 10:08 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 09:56 AM)MOTIAW Wrote:  Ok, have confirmed. It all began with two unvaxed guys testing positive, threw the rest of the unvaxed into protocol (who again had all the time they needed to get vaxed). Then, after initial considerations got them down to the 13 players for game 2, the vaxed players were tested as well. (You say Vandy demanded, I’ve read NC State honchos were responsible, fearing school liability. Doubt we will ever know which was ultimately responsible.) Four vaxed players tested positive, while asymptomatic. Boom, down to 9, game over.

In the end, doesn’t really matter. A) The four vaxed guys who were positive, the vax did what it’s supposed, protects huge % of population fully, greatly mitigates symptoms in those who still get it. I.e. it worked. B) Had the team as a whole got vaxed, guess what? NO ONE on NC State would have been tested to start with.

Honestly, I’m not sure why the NCAA even let this play out. They threw out UM Hockey on one positive test, because too many unvaxed guys would’ve needed multiple negative test and they were on the eve of the tourney. How does NC State even get to play game 2 with 13/27 scholly players? Shoulda been canned right there and then.

Point is, it was their group decision/inaction that they are crying over…. But like many others they just wanna blame the system.

If the whole team got vaccinated they still would have been playing with COVID but I guess if you just don’t know about it it’s ok right? Great system

Hey, you wanna debate the merits of EVERYONE being vaccinated still allowing for a small percentage of people being able to contract (“behind the scenes”) a very weakened version, likely enough so to stay alive/out of the hospital…. And yell about about us “having a great system”…. Fine.

The whole damn country should be so lucky.

Your distracting from the real point now. Which is, there was a system in place, everyone knew it, and the team crying foul chose a different path. Too bad.




If vaccines were available, COVID wasn’t running as rampant, and there were clear republished guidelines of consequences, back in the fall… and CCU football players made the same choice… I’d personally hand you the other half of the damn trophy, steal it right outta our case, and tell our team to go pound sand.

It’s choice now. And after three such examples already, NC State should have known damn better. For the good of the team. But then their coach doesn’t “indoctrinate” his player with opinions… like good social responsibility.

Better make sure your teams are “ready” boys. There’s no excuses anymore.

Lmao, no excuses? Coming from a coastal carotwat fan is real f’n rich...”have your boys ready to play” tell that to your chicken sht f’n football coach

Nice fifth grade reply.

Yes, the conference that MADE us “play at all costs” a meaningless Troy game the week prior...

Could canned our Troy game and moved the CG up a week...

You keep pounding this "meaningless game" narrative. It was not in anyway a meaning less game. The SBC has a responsibility to all of its members, not just Coastal Carolina. A bowl game was on the line for Troy. I don't know why everyone has to keep explaining this to you. You may feel like you are a master logician, or some nonsense, but I can tell you have little empathy for others, and even less self awareness.