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The G5 will have a seat at the table now. But CUSA is clearly behind the eight ball when it comes to get a team ranked high enough to even get into the conversation.

So what needs to happen for UAB to get into the playoffs? Can UAB even realistically get in the playoffs from CUSA?

What say you?

Only lose to Ga in a closer than expected contest...

If it was only that simple.

We need to start scheduling games against bad P5 teams and beat them. Go undefeated with a couple of P5 wins might do it

(06-11-2021 09:27 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  We need to start scheduling games against bad P5 teams and beat them. Go undefeated with a couple of P5 wins might do it

This is what I was thinking although I don't believe the P5 teams have to be bad but more of a middle of the pack team. I don't think a one loss UAB would get in because our SOS would be weak compared to a one loss AAC or MWC team. CUSA is truly the weakest FBS conference which doesn't allow UAB any leeway at all.

(06-11-2021 09:27 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  We need to start scheduling games against bad P5 teams and beat them. Go undefeated with a couple of P5 wins might do it

I agree except that the Alabamas and Clemsons and some borderline P5 teams figured out long ago that a win vs a lower-tier P5 team(Vandy, Kansas, Kansas State, etc) means more than even a G5 power win perception-wise and to most in power/control. Many schedules are locked for upcoming years as a result.

It's a little bit of a speculative venture for sure, but first we need to schedule and beat higher level G5s. I know this can fluctuate more than P5 schools but the BYUs and Boises are going to be a tough out for any P5 and they don't have nearly the scheduling restrictions. We play a P5 or 2 just about every year and we need to start punching these guys in the chops and not just cashing a check.

(06-11-2021 09:50 PM)biglizard Wrote:  It's a little bit of a speculative venture for sure, but first we need to schedule and beat higher level G5s. I know this can fluctuate more than P5 schools but the BYUs and Boises are going to be a tough out for any P5 and they don't have nearly the scheduling restrictions. We play a P5 or 2 just about every year and we need to start punching these guys in the chops and not just cashing a check.

Can't disagree with that...

Go undefeated or one loss, if that loss is to a p5 on the road, and catch a few breaks with who else loses. There isn’t a magic formula. An 11-1 UAB is going to the playoff regardless of schedule if the other g5 conference champs happen to have 2-3 losses. The AAC’s stature would look very different if mid-level teams were pulling a couple of upsets at the top. That hasn’t happened the last few years

Don't agree. Records will be more scrutinized now and if you don't have any meat on a 11-1 record it's not gonna get you ranked high enough or not at all with the committee.

I think that this season’s schedule gives us the best opportunity to get to the play off.

(06-12-2021 08:09 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  I think that this season’s schedule gives us the best opportunity to get to the play off.

This schedule would definitely put UAB in the conversation if the new format was to be implemented this season. The plan is for the new playoff format to be in place for the 2023 season. It's already been reported it will not start this season.

(06-12-2021 08:17 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:09 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  I think that this season’s schedule gives us the best opportunity to get to the play off.

This schedule would definitely put UAB in the conversation if the new format was to be implemented this season. The plan is for the new playoff format to be in place for the 2023 season. It's already been reported it will not start this season.

This schedule can be the building block for 2023

(06-12-2021 09:33 AM)rook360 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:17 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:09 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  I think that this season’s schedule gives us the best opportunity to get to the play off.

This schedule would definitely put UAB in the conversation if the new format was to be implemented this season. The plan is for the new playoff format to be in place for the 2023 season. It's already been reported it will not start this season.

This schedule can be the building block for 2023

Well, we already know that we host Louisiana and go to Georgia and Georgia Southern in 2023. If we are serious about the playoffs being our goal, we need to think long and hard about that fourth non-conference game, and try to get a decent opponent instead of an FCS school.

(06-12-2021 11:45 AM)bftb Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 09:33 AM)rook360 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:17 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:09 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  I think that this season’s schedule gives us the best opportunity to get to the play off.

This schedule would definitely put UAB in the conversation if the new format was to be implemented this season. The plan is for the new playoff format to be in place for the 2023 season. It's already been reported it will not start this season.

This schedule can be the building block for 2023

Well, we already know that we host Louisiana and go to Georgia and Georgia Southern in 2023. If we are serious about the playoffs being our goal, we need to think long and hard about that fourth non-conference game, and try to get a decent opponent instead of an FCS school.

Preferably an top level G5 opponent.

(06-12-2021 11:45 AM)bftb Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 09:33 AM)rook360 Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:17 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 08:09 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  I think that this season’s schedule gives us the best opportunity to get to the play off.

This schedule would definitely put UAB in the conversation if the new format was to be implemented this season. The plan is for the new playoff format to be in place for the 2023 season. It's already been reported it will not start this season.

This schedule can be the building block for 2023

Well, we already know that we host Louisiana and go to Georgia and Georgia Southern in 2023. If we are serious about the playoffs being our goal, we need to think long and hard about that fourth non-conference game, and try to get a decent opponent instead of an FCS school.

Maybe, or it might not matter at all. I don't think it does. And you also have to consider attendance and TV inventory.

(06-12-2021 07:54 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Don't agree. Records will be more scrutinized now and if you don't have any meat on a 11-1 record it's not gonna get you ranked high enough or not at all with the committee.

11-1 with a C-USA schedule is going to be ranked higher than any a 9-3 G5 champ unless that team has a couple of top-10 wins out of conference.

And as with anything reputation and consistent success matter. College football never gives the benefit of the doubt to young money.

This is why Oklahoma will always get a break over Iowa State and why in the G5, Boise State and UCF will be granted more credibility than Akron or Arkansas State. They have been good longer, at a higher level of consistency, with a track record. The expanded playoff isn’t going to change this history — it will reinforce it even though the broader challenge of access will be changed for more inclusiveness.

UAB’s unique story creates a rare opportunity to break through some typical barriers.

(06-12-2021 11:58 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:54 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Don't agree. Records will be more scrutinized now and if you don't have any meat on a 11-1 record it's not gonna get you ranked high enough or not at all with the committee.

11-1 with a C-USA schedule is going to be ranked higher than any a 9-3 G5 champ unless that team has a couple of top-10 wins out of conference.

Agree 100%.

(06-12-2021 02:19 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 11:58 AM)DuelingDragon Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 07:54 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Don't agree. Records will be more scrutinized now and if you don't have any meat on a 11-1 record it's not gonna get you ranked high enough or not at all with the committee.

11-1 with a C-USA schedule is going to be ranked higher than any a 9-3 G5 champ unless that team has a couple of top-10 wins out of conference.

Agree 100%.

I'm laughing at both of you; this is painfully funny. I could a give you a number of different scenarios that would absolutely blow what one of you is saying and the other is agreeing with out of the water. But I'll walk away and let you roll with it.

A CUSA schedule.......