What they are asking for is to be listed among the Autonomous conferences and not be bound to the Non-Autonomous conferences.

This just means they want to be able to negotiate on their own and not collectively with MWC, CUSA, Sun Belt and MAC.

If you dont think the AAC is bringing in more than 20% of what the 5 Non-Autonymous conferences were making, you are delusional. AAC then go on to state facts of why they are more valuable than those other 4 conferences. In some instances combined, but in all instances more valuable than the average.

AAC wants to be able to control their own destiny. Same as the B1G and SEC are able to and not held back by being combined with PAC and ACC and treated as equal.

If you like being tied to MWC, Sun Belt, and MAC more power to you. AAC doesn't want to give up 80% of their value for 20% of each of those 4s.

(06-13-2021 04:28 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 04:15 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 02:28 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 02:01 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 12:59 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I personally believe if a team from CUSA went undefeated, and had a powerful schedule that backed up their case, it shouldn't matter what the AAC does. They would get that spot.

I think with this new 12 team proposal it actually levels the playing field so much that we just need to take care of our own business. The American is doing everything they can to set the table if an undefeated Southern Miss for example where to go up against a one loss AAC, that they would believe the AAC team should get the bid.

Until we get batter as a conference, the AAC sos is going to be stronger and enable them to absorb a loss and still be ranked ahead of us.

No, not necessarily. For example, if Marshall goes undefeated the year they have to play @ Notre Dame and there is a one loss AAC team, or even an undefeated AAC team, that potentially trumps what an AAC team could pull out

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a happy Christmas.

You forget that the AAC has something no other G5 can claim, a recognized football national champion.

https://www.al.com/sports/2018/08/ncaa_r...ional.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/official-ncaa-r...35087.html

Marshall needs to upgrade its scheduling. Your best season in recent memory is the 13-1 season y'all played, where you did not beat anyone of consequence.
Meanwhile, the AAC is scheduling games against at least 1 or 2 P5 teams a year, beating several of them.
Marshall's last win over a P5 school was in 2015 over a 2-10 Purdue team.

UCF claiming a national championship is a disgrace all around. It was a disgrace that they didn't get a legitimate shot at the actual playoff, and it's a disgrace that UCF promotes that undefeated season as a national championship season.

And unlike UCF, Marshall can claim a legitimate team national championship in two sports. And I'm not talking about Olympic sports or track and field.

The NCAA RECOGNIZES UCF as a national champion that year.
Ooops.

(06-13-2021 12:41 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Guys, you are all missing the point here. The AAC believes they are on the same level of the SEC.

It is not a CUSA to AAC comparison, they believe wholeheartedly that they deserve equal access, equal treatment to the Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12, ACC and SEC.

They believe they have successfully accomplished separation over all G5, not just CUSA.

And so what they believe that. What do you want to them to think? Yes the P6 stuff they spout is hilarious but at least they're trying to elevate their status. I'll take the P6 nonsense rather than just accepting CUSA suck and we deserve to get pennies on our TV deal.

(06-13-2021 04:53 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 04:28 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 04:15 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 02:28 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 02:01 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Until we get batter as a conference, the AAC sos is going to be stronger and enable them to absorb a loss and still be ranked ahead of us.

No, not necessarily. For example, if Marshall goes undefeated the year they have to play @ Notre Dame and there is a one loss AAC team, or even an undefeated AAC team, that potentially trumps what an AAC team could pull out

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a happy Christmas.

You forget that the AAC has something no other G5 can claim, a recognized football national champion.

https://www.al.com/sports/2018/08/ncaa_r...ional.html

https://sports.yahoo.com/official-ncaa-r...35087.html

Marshall needs to upgrade its scheduling. Your best season in recent memory is the 13-1 season y'all played, where you did not beat anyone of consequence.
Meanwhile, the AAC is scheduling games against at least 1 or 2 P5 teams a year, beating several of them.
Marshall's last win over a P5 school was in 2015 over a 2-10 Purdue team.

UCF claiming a national championship is a disgrace all around. It was a disgrace that they didn't get a legitimate shot at the actual playoff, and it's a disgrace that UCF promotes that undefeated season as a national championship season.

And unlike UCF, Marshall can claim a legitimate team national championship in two sports. And I'm not talking about Olympic sports or track and field.

The NCAA RECOGNIZES UCF as a national champion that year.
Ooops.

You are a fool if you actually believe that.

Marshall has been there done that, we've had an undefeated football season, we've actually won a football FCS national championship, and we've actually won a team national championship in soccer. So unlike living in the clouds, maybe one day you and your UCF buddies can start living in reality.

You don't see Marshall fans claiming a 1999 national championship do you?

(06-13-2021 04:48 PM)spenser Wrote:  What they are asking for is to be listed among the Autonomous conferences and not be bound to the Non-Autonomous conferences.

This just means they want to be able to negotiate on their own and not collectively with MWC, CUSA, Sun Belt and MAC.

If you dont think the AAC is bringing in more than 20% of what the 5 Non-Autonymous conferences were making, you are delusional. AAC then go on to state facts of why they are more valuable than those other 4 conferences. In some instances combined, but in all instances more valuable than the average.

AAC wants to be able to control their own destiny. Same as the B1G and SEC are able to and not held back by being combined with PAC and ACC and treated as equal.

If you like being tied to MWC, Sun Belt, and MAC more power to you. AAC doesn't want to give up 80% of their value for 20% of each of those 4s.

The way they present this, by claiming clear superiority over us other G5 weaklings, is laughable to say the least.

Sorry but UCF has EVERY right to claim their national championship. No one beat them and they finished #1 in one of the NCAA recognized polls. They have every right to claim it, to be proud of it, and I will recognize it 100%.

(06-13-2021 05:06 PM)rileylives Wrote:  The way they present this, by claiming clear superiority over us other G5 weaklings, is laughable to say the least.

Then why do you see team's fans from the other non power conferences clamoring to get into the AAC?

(06-13-2021 05:23 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:06 PM)rileylives Wrote:  The way they present this, by claiming clear superiority over us other G5 weaklings, is laughable to say the least.

Then why do you see team's fans from the other non power conferences clamoring to get into the AAC?

It's the hubris I take issue with. I agree they have been the best, and it would be cool to play some of those teams on a more regular basis. However neither Marshall or UAB will be in the AAC.

If either of us had a chance, we would be there now from an exposure standpoint.

If they approached this differently, I and most other fans would take no issue with their claim. But they are going about it in a very petty way.

(06-13-2021 01:09 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 01:15 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  I seriously doubt that letter is legitimate. It is so ridiculous it’s almost like it was written by a clueless unaware AAC poster.

If I was president I would never sign something so foolish.

Do you think a letter espousing how great your conference is going make the P5 change their mind?

The AAC has zero leverage in this and why would any P5 school want to share the pie?

If anything the elites want to kick out the dead weight schools, not add more dead weight like the AAC

With respect, I do believe you are ignoring the current environment of "political correctness" that the P5 university presidents are facing. A couple of days ago I posted an article on one of the other threads here about the new 12-team playoff system being discussed. The article writer stated that the new 12-team playoff being discussed will likely be passed easily once it reaches the university presidents. The university presidents like being viewed as inclusive. Notice that I didn't say they genuinely like being inclusive, but rather they like being VIEWED as inclusive.

While I agree that most of the P5 elites --particularly the AD's-- don't want to add any more dead weight, I also believe that Aresco understands the pressure the P5 presidents are under to appear inclusive. So, by being the squeaky wheel, he's attempting to leverage the P5 presidents to work in his favor.

They want be PC of course but I think that has nothing to do with giving the G5 more access

The 12 team playoff is all about more money for the P5 and giving more at large bids to the P5 schools. In fact a P5 president said that and didn’t mention the G5 at all because they don’t care about giving more access to the G5.

That letter is like a little kid saying “I want to be included because I think I’m the best”

They find out later on in life that the people in power decides who gets included regardless of what they think of themselves.

clt can confirm the eCu President had to borrow a pen from UCF to sign that document. Times are tough.

(06-13-2021 04:32 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 05:09 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Let me know when our leadership do something similar.

To the guy calling me desperate, is this real?

And I am so very Happy that we have a commissioner who thinks, talks and walks like we are worth more than you and some others would rather see us represented as. Here is a question for you, does your commissioner represent you as more than you are?

Publicly or privately or does he/she just accept that narrative/label that others have given you, ie; G4/G5? Yup, you seem desperate. And its very clear that you are triggered by that letter.

P6 may have sounded stupid and it may sound stupid now, but it has clearly separated us from the rest of the G5. That's what our conference commissioner did, what has yours done for you. Don't hate, get a commissioner that will represent you like ours is representing us.

(06-13-2021 05:55 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:23 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:06 PM)rileylives Wrote:  The way they present this, by claiming clear superiority over us other G5 weaklings, is laughable to say the least.

Then why do you see team's fans from the other non power conferences clamoring to get into the AAC?

It's the hubris I take issue with. I agree they have been the best, and it would be cool to play some of those teams on a more regular basis. However neither Marshall or UAB will be in the AAC.

If either of us had a chance, we would be there now from an exposure standpoint.

If they approached this differently, I and most other fans would take no issue with their claim. But they are going about it in a very petty way.

I agree with you that I don't think you'll see another CUSA team be invited to the AAC. My question is why does it bother you so much about what the AAC is claiming? You gotta stop letting what AAC posters say about us get to you, it's not that serious.

(06-13-2021 05:55 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:23 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:06 PM)rileylives Wrote:  The way they present this, by claiming clear superiority over us other G5 weaklings, is laughable to say the least.

Then why do you see team's fans from the other non power conferences clamoring to get into the AAC?

It's the hubris I take issue with. I agree they have been the best, and it would be cool to play some of those teams on a more regular basis. However neither Marshall or UAB will be in the AAC.

If either of us had a chance, we would be there now from an exposure standpoint.

If they approached this differently, I and most other fans would take no issue with their claim. But they are going about it in a very petty way.

I agree with you but I don’t think the letter is real.

Let’s see a press release for this letter.

By the way it’s quite ironic that these AAC posters come to our board and call us “triggered” because of a topic on our CUSA board.

They are triggered enough to seek out a different conference message board to respond to our opinions.

Living rent free in the AAC world. Yep that right there just screams “P6” They just want validation because the P5 conferences sure aren’t going to give it to them.

(06-13-2021 05:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  You don't see Marshall fans claiming a 1999 national championship do you?

the NCAA recognizes UCF as a co-national champion. Dunno what else to say. Look it up.
Your leadership is failing you ...first Britton, now Judy.
Your tv deal is bad, next I expect yall to get picked up by Pluto TV..

(06-13-2021 12:41 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Guys, you are all missing the point here. The AAC believes they are on the same level of the SEC.

I don't think even one of their fans believe this. On the same level as the PAC-12? That I can see them believing.

(06-14-2021 01:10 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  You don't see Marshall fans claiming a 1999 national championship do you?

the NCAA recognizes UCF as a co-national champion. Dunno what else to say. Look it up.
Your leadership is failing you ...first Britton, now Judy.
Your tv deal is bad, next I expect yall to get picked up by Pluto TV..

That would probably be a huge upgrade to what we have now . . .

HiddenDragon gets it, the rest of you, not so much. Our schools, Presidents, programs, and Commissioner are creating the narrative on and off the field, while backing it up.

CUSA is doing NONE of those things while sitting around bitching with you heads in the sand. Like any job, you create your chances as opposed to hoping they happen.

Stay the course CUSA lol.


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(06-13-2021 04:32 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(06-12-2021 05:09 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  Let me know when our leadership do something similar.

To the guy calling me desperate, is this real?

It wont work, but I love the swagger and the fight. I wish CUSA would do the exact same thing. In fact, Id love to see the SB, MWC, CUSA and MAC put P10 stickers on their helmets. It would troll both the cartel teams and the AAC.

(06-14-2021 01:10 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(06-13-2021 05:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  You don't see Marshall fans claiming a 1999 national championship do you?

the NCAA recognizes UCF as a co-national champion. Dunno what else to say. Look it up.
Your leadership is failing you ...first Britton, now Judy.
Your tv deal is bad, next I expect yall to get picked up by Pluto TV..

https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/artic...ip-history

No they don’t, and I’m gonna drop the hammer on you if you persist with your crap.