geosnooker2000
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Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
And it must be stopped. It is making this Board unreadable. Below has been borrowed from another thread. I thought it appropriate to at least TRY and improve the situation by education. Props to slhNavy91 for taking the time to type it out for us.
(02-12-2021 04:22 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote: This thread appears to have taken on a sub-thread of writing professionally.
The below came across my work feed today - new senior leaders get to opine on standards for staffwork. I've edited [text in brackets] to keep from attributing it to said senior leader out-of-school.
1. Habits:
a. Take mental responsibility for the outcome associated with the [post]. Think through the information the [reader] needs to make decisions and persuade others. The ultimate goal is to answer the [reader]'s questions before he asks them.
b. Put the bottom line up front. Don't bury the lead under non-essential information.
c. Elevate the discussion. Unless information is immediately intuitive, present information within its larger context, giving the [reader] a sense of relative importance and relevance to the situation.
d. Control the pace of information. As much as possible, clarify the big ideas, separate them into discrete thoughts, and present them in logical order.
e. Be precise and don't overreach. Every sentence in a [document] should either state a fact, provide context about the fact, or characterize the fact.
f. Write such that you cannot be misunderstood. Convey the intended ideas, and none more. Your primary writing task is to keep words out of a [document], not put them in.
2. Style:
a. Use plain English, minimizing jargon and the use of acronyms.
b. Avoid redundancy.
c. Bold or underline key words and use bold subject headers.
d. Highlight important points in yellow (digitally when possible).
e. Use bullets in the body of the [document]. With some exceptions, do not exceed three lines per bullet.
...my 5,000th post here...
Ironically, I will summarize the spirit of point 2 with 2 words:
Avoid circumlocution.
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03-26-2021 01:46 PM |
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jedclampett
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
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There are much worse things than circumlocution, such as getting nailed and called out repeatedly by the Moderators for spouting "silly tropes" about the virtues of an AAC expansion that would include teams like Georgia State.
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03-26-2021 01:48 PM |
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geosnooker2000
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
Holysh!t! A ONE SENTENCE RESPONSE.... IT'S WORKING!!! IT'S WORKING!!!!!!
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03-26-2021 01:50 PM |
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geosnooker2000
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 01:48 PM)jedclampett Wrote: .
There are much worse things than circumlocution, such as getting nailed and called out repeatedly by the Moderators for spouting "silly tropes" about the virtues of an AAC expansion that would include teams like Georgia State.
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See, this is your problem Mr. Clampett. You are so full of yourself, and pay so little attention to what others say, and are SO RECKLESS with the quote function, that you actually believe what you just typed. When in reality, if you go back and look at it, it was *YOU* who misquoted ME and made it appear as if I would accept GA State as an add. I NEVER SAID THAT.
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03-26-2021 01:54 PM |
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geosnooker2000
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
Right now "Jed" is frantically scouring my previous posts trying to find where I advocated for GA State... cuz he's just SURE I said that one time.... at band camp... I digress. Spoiler alert... he ain't gonna find it...
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03-26-2021 02:06 PM |
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8BitPirate
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
I POST GOOD THINGS LIKE I WANTS TO!!11!!1!!
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03-26-2021 03:15 PM |
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geosnooker2000
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 03:15 PM)8BitPirate Wrote: I POST GOOD THINGS LIKE I WANTS TO!!11!!1!!
Well done, 8BitPirate. Short, succinct, to the point.
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03-26-2021 04:39 PM |
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vcoog
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
Is it? I don’t miss my foreskin.. what’s so bad about it
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03-26-2021 05:20 PM |
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geosnooker2000
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 05:20 PM)vcoog Wrote: Is it? I don’t miss my foreskin.. what’s so bad about it
look it up again...
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03-26-2021 05:22 PM |
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PuddlePirate
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 02:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:
Right now "Jed" is frantically scouring my previous posts trying to find where I advocated for GA State... cuz he's just SURE I said that one time.... at band camp... I digress. Spoiler alert... he ain't gonna find it...
Nah geo, right now he's blocking you and filling out a hurt feelings report to give to the mods.
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03-26-2021 05:48 PM |
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Unionman76
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
Daddy said it would cost an extra dollar to be circumlocution
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03-26-2021 06:06 PM |
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Bear Catlett
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
I think I'm great in regard to this.
Memphis blows.
Houston scum.
Temple cheaters.
Wichita MVC'ers.
The rest of you don't warrant a response.
See? It's easy.
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03-26-2021 06:33 PM |
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geosnooker2000
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 06:33 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote: I think I'm great in regard to this.
Memphis blows.
Houston scum.
Temple cheaters.
Wichita MVC'ers.
The rest of you don't warrant a response.
See? It's easy.
THAT'S what I'm talkin'-BOUT!
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03-26-2021 06:37 PM |
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slhNavy91
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 01:46 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: And it must be stopped. It is making this Board unreadable. Below has been borrowed from another thread. I thought it appropriate to at least TRY and improve the situation by education. Props to slhNavy91 for taking the time to type it out for us.
(02-12-2021 04:22 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote: This thread appears to have taken on a sub-thread of writing professionally.
The below came across my work feed today - new senior leaders get to opine on standards for staffwork. I've edited [text in brackets] to keep from attributing it to said senior leader out-of-school.
1. Habits:
a. Take mental responsibility for the outcome associated with the [post]. Think through the information the [reader] needs to make decisions and persuade others. The ultimate goal is to answer the [reader]'s questions before he asks them.
b. Put the bottom line up front. Don't bury the lead under non-essential information.
c. Elevate the discussion. Unless information is immediately intuitive, present information within its larger context, giving the [reader] a sense of relative importance and relevance to the situation.
d. Control the pace of information. As much as possible, clarify the big ideas, separate them into discrete thoughts, and present them in logical order.
e. Be precise and don't overreach. Every sentence in a [document] should either state a fact, provide context about the fact, or characterize the fact.
f. Write such that you cannot be misunderstood. Convey the intended ideas, and none more. Your primary writing task is to keep words out of a [document], not put them in.
2. Style:
a. Use plain English, minimizing jargon and the use of acronyms.
b. Avoid redundancy.
c. Bold or underline key words and use bold subject headers.
d. Highlight important points in yellow (digitally when possible).
e. Use bullets in the body of the [document]. With some exceptions, do not exceed three lines per bullet.
...my 5,000th post here...
Ironically, I will summarize the spirit of point 2 with 2 words:
Avoid circumlocution.
Didn't even type it. Copy and paste
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03-26-2021 08:41 PM |
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Westhoff123
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Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 02:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:
Right now "Jed" is frantically scouring my previous posts trying to find where I advocated for GA State... cuz he's just SURE I said that one time.... at band camp... I digress. Spoiler alert... he ain't gonna find it...
Bro I literally called the guy a todge jr and he went on a rant abut how Im a deranged testosterone filled maniac, all over that ONE comment.
Sent from the Warp via the ruinous powers of Chaos!
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03-26-2021 09:29 PM |
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Pony94
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Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 09:29 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (03-26-2021 02:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:
Right now "Jed" is frantically scouring my previous posts trying to find where I advocated for GA State... cuz he's just SURE I said that one time.... at band camp... I digress. Spoiler alert... he ain't gonna find it...
Bro I literally called the guy a todge jr and he went on a rant abut how Im a deranged testosterone filled maniac, all over that ONE comment.
Sent from the Warp via the ruinous powers of Chaos!
I actually prefer Todge
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03-26-2021 10:08 PM |
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Westhoff123
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Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 10:08 PM)Pony94 Wrote: (03-26-2021 09:29 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (03-26-2021 02:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:
Right now "Jed" is frantically scouring my previous posts trying to find where I advocated for GA State... cuz he's just SURE I said that one time.... at band camp... I digress. Spoiler alert... he ain't gonna find it...
Bro I literally called the guy a todge jr and he went on a rant abut how Im a deranged testosterone filled maniac, all over that ONE comment.
Sent from the Warp via the ruinous powers of Chaos!
I actually prefer Todge
At least todges rants weren’t pointless words and had actually had a meaning.
Sent from the Warp via the ruinous powers of Chaos!
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03-26-2021 10:09 PM |
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Fishpro10987
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 01:46 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: And it must be stopped. It is making this Board unreadable. Below has been borrowed from another thread. I thought it appropriate to at least TRY and improve the situation by education. Props to slhNavy91 for taking the time to type it out for us.
(02-12-2021 04:22 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote: This thread appears to have taken on a sub-thread of writing professionally.
The below came across my work feed today - new senior leaders get to opine on standards for staffwork. I've edited [text in brackets] to keep from attributing it to said senior leader out-of-school.
1. Habits:
a. Take mental responsibility for the outcome associated with the [post]. Think through the information the [reader] needs to make decisions and persuade others. The ultimate goal is to answer the [reader]'s questions before he asks them.
b. Put the bottom line up front. Don't bury the lead under non-essential information.
c. Elevate the discussion. Unless information is immediately intuitive, present information within its larger context, giving the [reader] a sense of relative importance and relevance to the situation.
d. Control the pace of information. As much as possible, clarify the big ideas, separate them into discrete thoughts, and present them in logical order.
e. Be precise and don't overreach. Every sentence in a [document] should either state a fact, provide context about the fact, or characterize the fact.
f. Write such that you cannot be misunderstood. Convey the intended ideas, and none more. Your primary writing task is to keep words out of a [document], not put them in.
2. Style:
a. Use plain English, minimizing jargon and the use of acronyms.
b. Avoid redundancy.
c. Bold or underline key words and use bold subject headers.
d. Highlight important points in yellow (digitally when possible).
e. Use bullets in the body of the [document]. With some exceptions, do not exceed three lines per bullet.
...my 5,000th post here...
Ironically, I will summarize the spirit of point 2 with 2 words:
Avoid circumlocution.
An idea for its time.
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03-27-2021 01:20 AM |
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tnzazz
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Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
Snicker
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03-27-2021 08:56 AM |
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TexanMark
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RE: Circumlocution is a terrible thing..
(03-26-2021 10:08 PM)Pony94 Wrote: (03-26-2021 09:29 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote: (03-26-2021 02:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:
Right now "Jed" is frantically scouring my previous posts trying to find where I advocated for GA State... cuz he's just SURE I said that one time.... at band camp... I digress. Spoiler alert... he ain't gonna find it...
Bro I literally called the guy a todge jr and he went on a rant abut how Im a deranged testosterone filled maniac, all over that ONE comment.
Sent from the Warp via the ruinous powers of Chaos!
I actually prefer Todge
A blast from the past...
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03-27-2021 02:52 PM |
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