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This article should be a sticky for the next 4 years. Great article on the double standards. Below is only a few of the highlights.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/01/24/the-r...etfulness/

"Riotous rogue Trump supporters who broke into the Capitol on January 6 were properly and widely condemned by conservatives. They were somewhat reminiscent of the mobs of fanatic leftists and union members that a decade ago stormed the Wisconsin state capitol at Madison, or the unpunished hundreds of rioters who created havoc on Washington, D.C. streets during the Trump 2016 inauguration. We expect the Capitol stormers will be punished, and not in the lax fashion of the latter two groups that were not.

Within a few days, the talking points were finalized that all of Donald Trump’s supporters deserved blame for the violence. That riot, the Trump defeat, and the loss of the Senate have greenlighted left-wing talk of “deprogramming,” “de-Baathification,” “re-educating,” and “reprogramming” half the country to ensure they think correctly and act properly from now on—the exact methodology of such brain rinsing apparently to be announced later....


Serious Big Brother was never coming to America kicking and screaming in a suit and in a mile-long tie, but rather eagerly welcomed in with jeans and sneakers without socks. The First Amendment could always survive a crude, inebriated Joe McCarthy, but not so easily a social justice ex-barista, doing vanity selfies about diversity, egged on by the “progressive” media, while saving the planet, and “reining” in a hurtful, racist media....


We are to forget all that because destroying the downtowns of major cities (mere “brick and mortar”) was then accepted tit-for-tat social justice. It was certainly not sedition, insurrection, and treason to try to torch a federal courthouse or incinerate police precincts with all their occupants inside. Slinging around an illegal “assault weapon,” if you were Seattle rapper Raz Simone, was almost cool and neat, even if four people were shot, and two killed in his “autonomous zone...."


Dozens of retired generals and admirals virtue signaled that Trump’s mention of federal troops was tantamount to plotting a coup. But we are to forget all that now because there were recently 30,000 troops in Washington—as if Jubal Early had risen from the dead with a Confederate Army...."
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Yeah, the deprogramming aint happening.
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(01-26-2021 12:41 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Yeah, the deprogramming aint happening.

Nope. And the conservative side has all along been relatively peaceful and not too outspoken. I’m not listening to their crap anymore......eff off comes pretty quickly now.04-cheers
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(01-26-2021 01:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(01-26-2021 12:41 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Yeah, the deprogramming aint happening.

Nope. And the conservative side has all along been relatively peaceful and not too outspoken. I’m not listening to their crap anymore......eff off comes pretty quickly now.04-cheers

Preach!
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Quote:Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald knows something about cancel culture.

In October, he resigned from The Intercept, the online publication he co-founded six years earlier, when the editors disagreed with his reporting on Joe Biden’s ties to China and Ukraine. He was accused of spreading “disinformation” from the Trump campaign.

Now Greenwald, albeit no conservative, is arguing that such efforts to quash dissent to the prevailing liberal wisdom are spreading, and gaining ground as corporations are allying with Democrats and the mainstream media.

Fox News host Tucker Carlson asked Greenwald about a “particularly ominous” bill floated by Democratic Rep. Stephanie Murphy of Florida that would ban people within the federal government who accept QAnon theories from having access to classified information, thus costing them employment opportunities.

The foundation for such measures, Greenwald said, is that the Democrat Party “genuinely believes they have a monopoly on objective truth.”

“They believe they are the party of science and rationality and the only way to disagree with them is you are either a deranged conspiracy theorist or a seditionist, someone who is engaged in criminal conduct or terrorism,” he added.

“Therefore, they genuinely believe — it’s not a show, it’s not a pretext — they all have convinced one another through this echo chamber that they’ve created – essentially the entire media, except this network, which is why they want to shut it down — that if you disagree with their orthodoxies and their consensus, you are a threat and a danger,” he said.

“It’s so ironic,” Greenwald continued, “they spent four years claiming they’re fighting fascism and authoritarianism, and what are they trying to do now? They trying to harness corporate and monopoly power to silence everyone who disagrees with them – the very hallmark, the epitome, of the fascism they claim to be fighting, but which, in reality, they embody.”

“They genuinely want everyone who disagrees with them, silenced,” said Greenwald.

And such moves, he added, are not being made in the shadows. Prominent liberals within the Democratic Party and Republican accomplices in the “Liz Cheney wing” of the GOP are openly discussing how they can quash those who don’t go along.

Greenwald contended these powerbrokers are not so subtly indicating that they will use their power to regulate commerce as a cudgel to bring companies into line in forcing conservatives from the public square, especially on the internet.

“If that isn’t authoritarianism, what is?” Greenwald argued.

He cited the deplatforming of Parler, considered the conservative alternative to Twitter, as an example.

“They destroyed an entire social media platform, they just took it off the internet, because they instructed Silicon Valley monopolies that it was their obligation to remove it,” Greenwald said.

“It’s very chilling,” he concluded, “and you really can’t overstate how bloodthirsty they are in the control they are trying to exert over our discourse.”

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Deprogramming? Well, at least the left isn't hiding its Communistic tendencies.
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Glen Greenwald is one of the last true journalists left.

He has quickly become a must read for all who value freedom and liberty.
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no thanks, I'll pass; or rather, secede.
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(01-26-2021 01:58 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  no thanks, I'll pass; or rather, secede.


Both options are terrible and remove America as the lead superpower in the world.

Which ironically, fulfills the picture laid out in Revelation. No American superpower defending Israel and freedom across the globe.
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(01-26-2021 01:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(01-26-2021 12:41 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Yeah, the deprogramming aint happening.

Nope. And the conservative side has all along been relatively peaceful and not too outspoken. I’m not listening to their crap anymore......eff off comes pretty quickly now.04-cheers

03-lmfao riiiiiiiiight
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(01-26-2021 02:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-26-2021 01:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(01-26-2021 12:41 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Yeah, the deprogramming aint happening.

Nope. And the conservative side has all along been relatively peaceful and not too outspoken. I’m not listening to their crap anymore......eff off comes pretty quickly now.04-cheers

03-lmfao riiiiiiiiight

Eff off Memphis!...........see how easy that was. 03-lmfao
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Quote:It’s been in your social feed, on your televisions, and in the newspapers a dozen or more times today alone: the term “The Big Lie,” used by an elected official, pundit, or columnist to describe any challenge to the official narrative about the 2020 U.S. Presidential election.

For example:

President Joe Biden has accused President Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz, and Sen. Josh Hawley of a “Big Lie” ;
Rep. Mazie Hirono went on Anderson Cooper to accuse the Republican senators of a “Big Lie“;
Dominion Voting Systems has alleged a “Big Lie” in their lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani;

Jake Tapper has used the term repeatedly on Twitter and on air to describe allegations of fraud in the 2020 election.
Bloomberg explained the analogy in September: “Adolf Hitler and Goebbels, his minister of propaganda, espoused a technique known as the ‘Big Lie,’ which involved repeating a colossal falsehood until the public came to believe it was true.”

Historians Timothy Snyder, Fiona Hill, and Ruth Ben-Ghiat have affirmed this usage of the term. Snyder whimsically explained to NPR how a “big lie” works: “The big lie fills in this space which used to be taken up by a lot of little truths, by hundreds and thousands and millions of little truths,” Snyder said. “We’ve let that slip away. And then the big lie comes in and fills in the gap.”

But that’s not what “Big Lie” means, nor where it came from.

If You Circulate A Fake Quote Long Enough…
Many attribute the concept of the “Big Lie” to Joseph Goebbels, who is popularly believed to have said: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”

“But did Goebbels actually say that? Only one refereed scholarly article that cites the quotation, and with no reference. A [LexisNexis] Academic search provides three published articles employing the fabrication, two of which are from BusinessWorld, in the Philippines, and one from The Washington Times,” wrote Quentin Schultze and Randall Bytwerk in a 2012 paper published by the Institute of General Semantics.

“None of the three dozen books citing it on Google Books has a publisher with a reputation for editorial diligence.”

Schultze and Bytwerk discovered the earliest usage of the quote from a 2002 article raising questions about the commercial plane flown into the Pentagon. By 2006, Google searches returned 300,000+ results for the quote—and still no primary attribution. The quotation proved handy on both the left and the right, first to critique the Bush administration’s Iraq policy, then to accuse the Obama administration of employing Nazi-like propaganda tactics.

The authors explain the usefulness of the apparently fictitious quote:

Since Goebbels is a reviled figure for all but a few Neo-Nazis, and since the political right and left squabble about whether Nazism (“National Socialism”) was of the right or left in its essence, both can use his alleged statement. It can be employed not merely for argument or elegance, but to make an ad hominem attack that will appeal to a particular vernacular community: “If my opponents are acting in a way consistent with Joseph Goebbels’s advice, they are so evil as to need little refutation.”

But the biggest problem with the fake Goebbels quote isn’t attribution. “Big Lie” belongs to Adolf Hitler—and it means something completely different.

The Anti-Semitic Big Lie Narrative Is From Mein Kampf.
In the tenth chapter of “Mein Kampf,” Hitler wrote:

“But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.

“All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.”

In the text, Hitler charges the Jews with destabilizing society by promulgating a big lie—the narrative that provided a sinister rationale for the detainment and mass murder of the Jewish people.

In the Hitler/Goebbels “Big Lie” analogy flowing freely from the mouths of Biden, Tapper, and others, the accuser would be analogous to Hitler, and the person being accused of lying would be analogous to the Jews.

In other words, the Hitlerian strategy is to accuse one’s enemies of using a Big Lie to gain and consolidate control. To accuse your opponent of a Big Lie is to borrow a murderous, anti-Semitic slander directly from “Mein Kampf”—and to align oneself with Hitler in the analogy. The “Big Lie” analogy utterly fails as an indictment of fascist behavior.

The Washington Post even noted the error when Republican member of Congress inverted the analogy in 2019—but not when Biden used the Goebbels canard in 2020. This month, Biden repeated the mistaken analogy in reference to Sens. Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley.

Will Biden, Tapper, Hirono, and others relent from using the term when presented with the facts? If the past is any indicator, probably not.

Survivors of the Holocaust, nonpartisan and across the political spectrum, have denounced the use of Holocaust analogies in current events—but the left has continually invoked Hitler, the Holocaust, and concentration camps nonetheless. They are unable or unwilling to stop. They aren’t even embarrassed.

When NPR misstated the meaning of “Big Lie” in an interview published January 15, Fiona Hill brushed it away: “So I don’t actually think that we should get caught up in the origins of where this term the Big Lie comes from.”

No wonder.

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(01-26-2021 03:41 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(01-26-2021 02:48 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(01-26-2021 01:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(01-26-2021 12:41 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Yeah, the deprogramming aint happening.

Nope. And the conservative side has all along been relatively peaceful and not too outspoken. I’m not listening to their crap anymore......eff off comes pretty quickly now.04-cheers

03-lmfao riiiiiiiiight

Eff off Memphis!...........see how easy that was. 03-lmfao

You're being a lot nicer to him than I would be.
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