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RE: Tulsa cancelled
Healthy here is key and it appears we really know nothing in that regard. We now have 11 days before the CCG. If positive tests were rampant enough to pull Saturday's game, we just don't know who is infected, who is symptomatic or who is in quarantine. With players, statistically I would imagine most will be asymptomatic, a lesser number will have mild symptoms for three days or so and few if any would require a more aggressive care plan. From what I hear though, fatigue certainly accompanies the onset and the recovery which could even impact the practice and play of those who have recovered.

Do we even know for sure if this is the reason for the change of schedule? Maybe the American, Tulsa, and Cincinnati all just agreed this was the best option for the greater good (or greater dollars) for the AAC.
 
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CBS just had an 8 minute long segment where both people (Palm and Barrett Sallee) commented that they could see the committee moving Cincinnati down because of this in next week's poll. The full court press for the Chantacleers is on 03-lmfao
 
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RE: Tulsa cancelled
FWIW, AD Cunningham has released a statement stating while there are positives, there are only a few symptomatic cases. This provides a little solace that the guys are not all severely sick, hospitalized and unable to play going forward.
 
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RE: Tulsa cancelled
(12-08-2020 11:05 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:02 AM)dsquare Wrote:  This looks like a win/win for Uc. Only have to play one game at Uc for it all, and fans allowed in limited number. Key is guys get healthy. Much rather this at full strenght. Win/win here. Two tulsa wins isn't going to be a difference maker. If we beat them the first time, they'd drop. No student on campus likely now have fans.

Yep...and another week for teams above to cannibalize themselves and keep moving Tulsa up by default.

I actually feel the opposite. It gives the powers that be an excuse to "forget" about UC over the next few weeks and get leap frogged. I smell a bowl bid against Coastal Carolina coming.
 
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I honestly don't know, but has there been a recorded case of a football players getting Covid from an opposing football player anywhere? I heard of no cases among Ohio high school football players (or fans) this season.

Personally disappointed because the UC football games are a bright spot in this crazy year.
 
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(12-08-2020 11:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  FWIW, AD Cunningham has released a statement stating while there are positives, there are only a few symptomatic cases. This provides a little solace that the guys are not all severely sick, hospitalized and unable to play going forward.

That's really timely and helpful for us as fans. As prevalent as this has been in college football, I can't imagine Tulsa isn't dealing with it on some level too; especially after a road trip to Maryland last weekend.
 
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(12-08-2020 11:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  CBS just had an 8 minute long segment where both people (Palm and Barrett Sallee) commented that they could see the committee moving Cincinnati down because of this in next week's poll. The full court press for the Chantacleers is on 03-lmfao

To be honest we did ourselves no favors in not playing for a month. The committee is always looking to move g5 teams down and I think we gave them too much ammo. Nothing could've been done on our end which is the worst part. Get ready for tons of CC hype for the NY6. They'll use the number of games played and ranked wins as their main points
 
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FWIW, Michigan just postponed Harbaugh's presser for today...
 
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(12-08-2020 11:17 AM)Lurkercat Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  CBS just had an 8 minute long segment where both people (Palm and Barrett Sallee) commented that they could see the committee moving Cincinnati down because of this in next week's poll. The full court press for the Chantacleers is on 03-lmfao

To be honest we did ourselves no favors in not playing for a month. The committee is always looking to move g5 teams down and I think we gave them too much ammo. Nothing could've been done on our end which is the worst part. Get ready for tons of CC hype for the NY6. They'll use the number of games played and ranked wins as their main points

I actually think the end game is for UC and CC to play each other. It was supposed to be UC vs BYU but CC mucked that up. The P5 cartel doesn't want UC or CC embarrassing their teams in a bowl and crying they should have made the playoffs, so what better way to avoid a monkey wrench than to have them play each other.
 
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(12-08-2020 11:20 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:17 AM)Lurkercat Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  CBS just had an 8 minute long segment where both people (Palm and Barrett Sallee) commented that they could see the committee moving Cincinnati down because of this in next week's poll. The full court press for the Chantacleers is on 03-lmfao

To be honest we did ourselves no favors in not playing for a month. The committee is always looking to move g5 teams down and I think we gave them too much ammo. Nothing could've been done on our end which is the worst part. Get ready for tons of CC hype for the NY6. They'll use the number of games played and ranked wins as their main points

I actually think the end game is for UC and CC to play each other. It was supposed to be UC vs BYU but CC mucked that up. The P5 cartel doesn't want UC or CC embarrassing their teams in a bowl and crying they should have made the playoffs, so what better way to avoid a monkey wrench than to have them play each other.

I would agree with you but do you think they're going to give a G5 an at-large? That's a lot of money lost for a P5 conference
 
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(12-08-2020 11:08 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I’m thinking it doesn’t matter at this point. High probability that bowl season is completely canceled.

Solid, Billy! You're in game thread mode.
 
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(12-08-2020 11:17 AM)Lurkercat Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  CBS just had an 8 minute long segment where both people (Palm and Barrett Sallee) commented that they could see the committee moving Cincinnati down because of this in next week's poll. The full court press for the Chantacleers is on 03-lmfao

To be honest we did ourselves no favors in not playing for a month. The committee is always looking to move g5 teams down and I think we gave them too much ammo. Nothing could've been done on our end which is the worst part. Get ready for tons of CC hype for the NY6. They'll use the number of games played and ranked wins as their main points

Less than a month ago, we had the talking that the number of games we played vs. a lot of the P5 should be weighed in our favor. It was trending that we were going to be playing 12 games this year vs. Ohio State playing a max of 6-7. I even heard Mike "I love UCF and Memphis" Aresco even promoting this. Of course that is gone by the wayside as we have fewer data points.
 
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Fick has a presser at noon. It appears UC is not experiencing any more Covid cases, but the AAC health advisory board is saying we haven’t met the timeline for return to play based on our last reported case timeline.
 
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Well, begs the question...if the CCG also gets cancelled does that eliminate the chance to be the G5 rep in the NY6 bowls?
 
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They'll play it before yearend. At the end of the day, drill Tulsa at home and you'll be fine. Don't worry about Cbs. If you can't beat them soundly here, then it's on us.
 
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Put me in the camp that thinks this is bad for UC.

I agree that UC was always a long shot for the playoffs but 12-0 (or at this point an 11-0) UC team certainly makes a strong case versus a 6-0 Buckeyes team or a 1 loss SEC team. And there's always the outside chance that things fall right. Clemson losing to ND, Florida losing to Bama are both possibilities and if those happen a 12-0 UC sure looks like a deserving candidate.

And even if none of that works out and UC still doesn't make the playoffs. The end of the year rankings would most certainly be affected. This is the best (or second best) UC team in history. I want to see them play as many games as possible.
 
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(12-08-2020 11:20 AM)Cat-Man Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:17 AM)Lurkercat Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  CBS just had an 8 minute long segment where both people (Palm and Barrett Sallee) commented that they could see the committee moving Cincinnati down because of this in next week's poll. The full court press for the Chantacleers is on 03-lmfao

To be honest we did ourselves no favors in not playing for a month. The committee is always looking to move g5 teams down and I think we gave them too much ammo. Nothing could've been done on our end which is the worst part. Get ready for tons of CC hype for the NY6. They'll use the number of games played and ranked wins as their main points

I actually think the end game is for UC and CC to play each other. It was supposed to be UC vs BYU but CC mucked that up. The P5 cartel doesn't want UC or CC embarrassing their teams in a bowl and crying they should have made the playoffs, so what better way to avoid a monkey wrench than to have them play each other.

Bolded, I really don't. Taking one G5 was a grudging accommodation when this whole CFP structure was implemented. Do you really think the Peach Bowl in Atlanta, if forced to take Cincinnati will want any team not named Georgia in that stadium? Georgia will fill as many seats as the city or state will allow. Ditto, hotels and restaurants. Bowls are all about revenue and CCU against Cincy won't ring that bell for ESPN, ticket sales, or the tourist trade.
 
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(12-08-2020 11:41 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Put me in the camp that thinks this is bad for UC.

I agree that UC was always a long shot for the playoffs but 12-0 (or at this point an 11-0) UC team certainly makes a strong case versus a 6-0 Buckeyes team or a 1 loss SEC team. And there's always the outside chance that things fall right. Clemson losing to ND, Florida losing to Bama are both possibilities and if those happen a 12-0 UC sure looks like a deserving candidate.

And even if none of that works out and UC still doesn't make the playoffs. The end of the year rankings would most certainly be affected. This is the best (or second best) UC team in history. I want to see them play as many games as possible.

I agree that the COVID outbreak has been bad for UC's playoff hopes (though ultimately probably wouldn't have mattered). Oh well. It's a weird year. Everyone knows it. Kick Tulsa's ass all over the field next week and see what happens.
 
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(12-08-2020 11:47 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(12-08-2020 11:41 AM)nachoman91 Wrote:  Put me in the camp that thinks this is bad for UC.

I agree that UC was always a long shot for the playoffs but 12-0 (or at this point an 11-0) UC team certainly makes a strong case versus a 6-0 Buckeyes team or a 1 loss SEC team. And there's always the outside chance that things fall right. Clemson losing to ND, Florida losing to Bama are both possibilities and if those happen a 12-0 UC sure looks like a deserving candidate.

And even if none of that works out and UC still doesn't make the playoffs. The end of the year rankings would most certainly be affected. This is the best (or second best) UC team in history. I want to see them play as many games as possible.

I agree that the COVID outbreak has been bad for UC's playoff hopes (though ultimately probably wouldn't have mattered). Oh well. It's a weird year. Everyone knows it. Kick Tulsa's ass all over the field next week and see what happens.

I am not sure playing at Temple and Tulsa would help. Beating a ranked Tulsa team probably won’t be enough either but i like scenario than playing two road games that were basically traps.
 
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Sucks as it will make it tough to make the CFP, which was going to be tough anyway. No way they will have CC pass us for NY6 bowl as long as we beat Tulsa. And no chance they have UC play CC in a NY6 bowl. The P5 mafia won't let that happen and lose the money. G6 gets one bowl bid begrudgingly as it is. BYU may have had a chance only because they have a national following and even that might have been a tough sell. Beat Tulsa and we are in NY6. Who knows, maybe all hell breaks loose and we get a CFP bid, but that seems to be taking a hit with the cancellations.
 
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